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the fate of rec.arts.books.hist-fiction??

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C. B. Rykken - 27 Sep 2003 17:34 GMT
Has this newsgroup disappeared without warning? Maybe I've missed
something obvious to everyone else. . . .

--CBR
JimC - 27 Sep 2003 18:25 GMT
> Has this newsgroup disappeared without warning? Maybe I've missed
> something obvious to everyone else. . . .

I don't know, but the subject of historic fiction is alive and well in
r.a.b.

The most recent I read in that category is _Libra_ by
Don DeLillo.  Here, the thesis itself -- that the CIA put Oswald
up to killing Kennedy -- is baloney in my opinion, but the
interrelationships among lowlife characters in New Orleans,
Dallas and Miami is mostly historic.  DeLillo gets into their
heads nicely.

But does he toy with the reader without other sources?
That's the sort of topic where r.a.b. sometimes, well
maybe once in several months, provides an insight.
An insight such as, "The intelligent reader can still
be edified by suspending his belief," or something
aphoristic like that that makes it possible for
anthropologists to read mythology for hours.
Paul J Gans - 28 Sep 2003 06:04 GMT
In soc.history.medieval C. B. Rykken <comment@historical-novels.com> wrote:
>Has this newsgroup disappeared without warning? Maybe I've missed
>something obvious to everyone else. . . .

>--CBR

You posted to three, rec.arts.books, soc.history.ancient,
and soc.history.medieval.  Which is the "this newsgroup"
you are speaking about?

   ---- Paul J. Gans
Hardy-Boys.net - 28 Sep 2003 19:14 GMT
> Has this newsgroup disappeared without warning? Maybe I've missed
> something obvious to everyone else. . . .

It seems that Google Groups has stopped archiving 100's, if not 1000's, of
newsgroups.
I don't know if this is a temporary glitch or what.
I first noticed this yesterday (Saturday).
Perhaps rec.arts.books.hist-fiction is among the casualties.

--
Bob Finnan
The Hardy Boys Unofficial Home Page
http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon
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Katherine Tredwell - 29 Sep 2003 15:46 GMT
> > Has this newsgroup disappeared without warning? Maybe I've missed
> > something obvious to everyone else. . . .
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I first noticed this yesterday (Saturday).
> Perhaps rec.arts.books.hist-fiction is among the casualties.

One of the groups that I read (soc.history.science) initally got the
axe.  Today I discovered it was back.  If you are lucky, rabh-f will
return, but I cannot hold out much hope.  This is not the first time
groups have been vanished, though it has been long enough I can no
longer remember whether Deja News was the last instigator.  I have
also had some trouble in recent weeks with posting, and sometimes I
cannot read threads.  I fear Google may be about to crumble under its
own weight.

Katherine Tredwell
C. B. Rykken - 29 Sep 2003 13:25 GMT
> Has this newsgroup disappeared without warning? Maybe I've missed
> something obvious to everyone else. . . .
>
> --CBR

I spoke prematurely. On Saturday the archives for
rec.arts.books.hist-fiction were available, but new posts were
impossible. The same was true for alt.books.reviews. Meanwhile,
hist-fiction is back, but not alt.books.reviews. It's a mystery.

--CBR
Chris Camfield - 29 Sep 2003 16:21 GMT
[snip]
>I spoke prematurely. On Saturday the archives for
>rec.arts.books.hist-fiction were available, but new posts were
>impossible. The same was true for alt.books.reviews. Meanwhile,
>hist-fiction is back, but not alt.books.reviews. It's a mystery.

One would presume that if you actually posted using a newsreader, instead of
Google, that you could independently access the newsgroup regardless of Google's
status.

Chris
Hardy-Boys.net - 29 Sep 2003 17:01 GMT
> One would presume that if you actually posted using a newsreader, instead of
> Google, that you could independently access the newsgroup regardless of Google's
> status.

Trouble is that many people don't have access to a newsreader and depend on
Google Groups for access to the Usenet.

--
Bob Finnan
The Hardy Boys Unofficial Home Page
http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon
New & Out Of Print Books, Books-On-Tape, Videos, DVDs, CD-ROMs For Sale
http://users.arczip.com/fwdixon/hbsale.htm
To reply: replace nospam with fwdixon
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