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History Forum / General / Ancient History / October 2003speaking of Attila ...
the TV movie "Attila" was repeated by the History Channel yesterday. they seem to have taken quite a number of liberties with history. also the West Romans and the East Romans (Byzantines) have only passing mention of their Christianity and don't seem to have been depicted as they woudl have been in the earlier era. any thoughts? > the TV movie "Attila" was repeated by the History Channel yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > have > been in the earlier era. any thoughts? It was a TV movie. They ALWAYS take liberties with history 8-)  SignatureMary Loomer Oliver(aka erilar) ------------------------------------------------------------------- perspicuitas enim argumentatione elevator--Cicero (The clearest subjects are often obscured by lengthened reasoning) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Erilar's Cave Annex: http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo Liberties??? You are too kind! >>the TV movie "Attila" was repeated by the History Channel yesterday. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > It was a TV movie. They ALWAYS take liberties with history 8-) > Liberties??? You are too kind! Listening to the director commentary on Gladiator, one of them said something like "Actually the historians are not sure of how it was done, but it must have been like this?" The movie director historians are mainly military historians because that is what the action scenes needs and what most of the public know. > >>the TV movie "Attila" was repeated by the History Channel yesterday. > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > It was a TV movie. They ALWAYS take liberties with history 8-) SignatureA farmer takes all he can from the chicken. I suppose 75% of it was about Attila's love interests?? > the TV movie "Attila" was repeated by the History Channel yesterday. > > they seem to have taken quite a number of liberties with history. also the > West Romans and the East Romans (Byzantines) have only passing mention of > their Christianity and don't seem to have been depicted as they woudl have > been in the earlier era. any thoughts? Not having seen the movie only read a lot of Prime/Primary sources about Attila, some written by Cassiodorus from his Grandfather's notes after his visit at Attila's court, I must say I never ever even dreamt of the thought of Attila in love or Attila's love interests..... Where did the manuswriter find that one? Inger E > I suppose 75% of it was about Attila's love interests?? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > their Christianity and don't seem to have been depicted as they woudl have > > been in the earlier era. any thoughts? I have not seen it yet, though a program on Napoleon is airing here at the moment and a great deal of the content is about his association with Josephine in a soap-opera type way. The producers of these shows have an irritating knack of including romance as a filler, instead of showing more important content - such as the politics and the history. And John Malcovitch as Talleyrand is dreadful - played as a peasant, if you please!! > Not having seen the movie only read a lot of Prime/Primary sources about > Attila, some written by Cassiodorus from his Grandfather's notes after his [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > have > > > been in the earlier era. any thoughts? I recommend you stop watching. It gets worse. Much worse. > I have not seen it yet, though a program on Napoleon is airing here at the > moment and a great deal of the content is about his association with > Josephine in a soap-opera type way. The producers of these shows have an > irritating knack of including romance as a filler, instead of showing more > important content - such as the politics and the history. And John > Malcovitch as Talleyrand is dreadful - played as a peasant, if you please!! >Not having seen the movie only read a lot of Prime/Primary sources about >Attila, some written by Cassiodorus from his Grandfather's notes after his >visit at Attila's court, I must say I never ever even dreamt of the thought >of Attila in love or Attila's love interests..... Where did the manuswriter >find that one? See Gibbon's chapter 35, 420-451 AD, for the story of Honoria, with enough twists and turns to make a script. > >Not having seen the movie only read a lot of Prime/Primary sources about > >Attila, some written by Cassiodorus from his Grandfather's notes after his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > See Gibbon's chapter 35, 420-451 AD, for the story of Honoria, with > enough twists and turns to make a script. will do! >>Not having seen the movie only read a lot of Prime/Primary sources about >>Attila, some written by Cassiodorus from his Grandfather's notes after his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >See Gibbon's chapter 35, 420-451 AD, for the story of Honoria, with >enough twists and turns to make a script. Most of what Gibbon has to say about Attila was taken from Priscus, a byzantine ambassador-writer who personnally met Attila. Apparently, although he had concubines, the man was no lover. Most of his energies were devoted to war, not love. George > >>Not having seen the movie only read a lot of Prime/Primary sources about > >>Attila, some written by Cassiodorus from his Grandfather's notes after his [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > although he had concubines, the man was no lover. Most of his energies > were devoted to war, not love. I have read Priscus more than once. It seems as if someone has been searching a lot to find such details. Not one single quotation I ever taken from Priscus, and I refer to him a lot in by manuscripts as well as in studies in the past, have such content. I can honestly say that I haven't found one such detail worth putting in writing. Inger E > George >> >>Not having seen the movie only read a lot of Prime/Primary sources about >> >>Attila, some written by Cassiodorus from his Grandfather's notes after [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> George Please try to say what you mean differently. I understand English is not your mother tongue, but I can't understand what you said. George George, I can spill it out once more but only in exactly the same way. Can't understand that you can't comprehend plain British English: * I have read Priscus more than once. (what's funny with that sentense?) * It seems as if someone has been searching a lot to find such details. (Details refered to are the love assumptions by previous writer re. Attila, previous to my first answer that is, nothing fishy with that!) * Not one single quotation I ever taken from Priscus, and I refer to him a lot in by manuscripts as well as in studies in the past, have such content. (The sentense refer to previous sentense. Normal procedure. Nothing queer about that sentense). * I can honestly say that I haven't found one such detail worth putting in writing. ( A follow up/conclusion statement of mine. Normal procedure) I don't understand you at all. I made a comment, not a critic or correction of your lines. Inger E Don't be so sensitive. Marcello > George, > I can spill it out once more but only in exactly the same way. Can't [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Inger E Come? Sono svedese non insensibile...... Non si veve di solo pane. :-) Inger E > Don't be so sensitive. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Inger E > the TV movie "Attila" was repeated by the History Channel yesterday. > they seem to have taken quite a number of liberties with history. also the > West Romans and the East Romans (Byzantines) have only passing mention of > their Christianity and don't seem to have been depicted as they woudl have > been in the earlier era. any thoughts? That is why it is called a movie. Rule 1 of history, if it makes a good story, it is a story not history. Everyone's life is reality and not a good story but a good storyteller can make an interesting story of most anyone's life. Of course the people probably will not recognize themselves in the story. SignatureBye, Bye, Birdie. The mother says she is committing suicide by putting her head in the kitchen oven. The son says, "Don't worry, it's electric." Holocaust stories used to be a joke for Broadway and Hollywood. -- The Iron Webmaster, 2881 > > the TV movie "Attila" was repeated by the History Channel yesterday. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > That is why it is called a movie. yes, but it inspires inquiry into historical events. |
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