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MEAT ASSYRIAN STYLE

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bernardz - 16 Aug 2007 07:37 GMT
Much earlier then medieval times come this recipe from  ancient
Assyria 1600 BCE

http://sbl-site.org/Article.aspx?ArticleId=703

I am very tempted to try to make the disk just to see what it taste
like.

Anyone had any luck with this sort of stuff?
Matt Giwer - 16 Aug 2007 09:31 GMT
> Much earlier then medieval times come this recipe from  ancient
> Assyria 1600 BCE
> http://sbl-site.org/Article.aspx?ArticleId=703
> I am very tempted to try to make the disk just to see what it taste
> like.
> Anyone had any luck with this sort of stuff?

    Although the working recipe barely matches the original I have made this dish
and close to it many times. It is beef stew heavy on the onions and garlic.  I
vaguely remember some popular national dish which is almost all beef and onions
but it has been so long on don't remember the nation although I vaguely recall
it is a Brit pie. As to the garlic I know of no way to tell if it was the hotter
US garlic or the milder giant garlic popular in Mexico. And the heat is
determined by mild for crushed and hot for diced. The US use is for heat over
flavor while Mexico is flavor over heat. They can use more.

    Adding "blood" is not an issue as it is the major component of what we call
redeye gravy. As they likely bought freshly slaughtered it was probably what to
do with the drippings from the meat while waiting to cook it.

    Note the modern idea of weights and measures for ingredients is very modern and
designed for housewives and new cooks. It came to be when there came to be
stoves in homes in cities and women were cooking for the first time.

    Experienced cooks did not and do not use anything more than the ingredient list
for inspiration. So the original really does not need an interpretation. Adding
other vegetables is an obvious thing for variety and making use of what is
available.

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BernardZ - 18 Aug 2007 13:46 GMT
> > Much earlier then medieval times come this recipe from  ancient
> > Assyria 1600 BCE
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> but it has been so long on don't remember the nation although I vaguely recall
> it is a Brit pie.

To me it actually seems very similar to an Irish stew that my aunty used
to make.

> As to the garlic I know of no way to tell if it was the hotter
> US garlic or the milder giant garlic popular in Mexico. And the heat is
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>     Experienced cooks did not and do not use anything more than the ingredient list
> for inspiration.

This is true if they know the dish. Imagine you told an French chef to
add curry to the dish, he is going to put a whole lot less then his
Indian counterpart will.

> So the original really does not need an interpretation. Adding
> other vegetables is an obvious thing for variety and making use of what is
> available.

One of the big problems that chefs face, the locals make their dishes
with what they have and chef in another place and/or time does not have
access to these ingredients.
 
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