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History Forum / General / Ancient History / November 2007Did Paul meet Jesus? Did Paul Distort Christianity?
Please see - Drs. Pagels and Thiering disagree on a crucial issue http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/3505 I invite comment. David Christainsen - meteorologist > Please see - > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > David Christainsen - meteorologist You might find "James, the Brother of Jesus", by Paul Eisenman to be of interest. It was an eye opener for me. My guess is that the epistle of James is the closest thing we've got to Jesus' actual teachings- A. McIntire On Nov 8, 7:32 pm, "alanmc95...@yahoo.com" <alanmc95...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 8, 11:54 am, David <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote:> Please see - > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > epistle of James is the closest thing we've got to Jesus' actual > teachings- A. McIntire Thanks for the tip although I have already read it. Also, please see - Replies to two new members http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/2016 "In a number of posts between April 15 and June 20, 2002, we had a closely argued series about the work of Robert Eisenman. It is particularly important to take his research into account. For a long time, he and I were the only ones to argue that the sectarian scrolls, those dealing with the Teacher of Righteousness and the Wicked Priest, came from the Christian period and referred to figures in the Christian history. For Eisenman, James the brother of Jesus was the Teacher, and Ananus the Younger (Hanan in Hebrew) was the Wicked Priest, who caused James to be stoned to death in AD 62 (I prefer AD to CE, as the similarity of CE and BCE causes errors). In my case, continuously published since 1979, the Teacher was John the Baptist and the Wicked Priest/Man of a Lie was Jesus. I bring in a new source of evidence, the pesher technique, learned from the DSS, but used objectively when applied to the gospels, Acts, and Revelation. I believe it is demonstrated that these books contain the full history of the real Jesus, set out with rigorous consistency through the special meanings of terms. The other major source is Josephus, who is giving the public version of the same events." ----- An Essene connection to the family of Jesus has been known among informed scholars for quite some time. James was an Essene because he wore long, white robes of linen and would not suffer oil on his skin. Jesus split from the Essenes right after his re-baptism by John to a new doctrine. Thus, Jesus's teaching differs from brother's. James and Jude never taught the resurrection. Jesus taught the resurrection in that Dr. Thiering establishes - Jesus himself is the author of the Gospel of John, written just before 37 AD. >Please see - > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >David Christainsen - meteorologist Well, first off, you aren't a meteorologist. You have no formal qualifications in the field, you never worked in the field. You are another amateur posting urls leading to cites against human caused global warming, that's all. As for Thiering, I'll trade urls, but mine is much more detailed than yours: http://www.anchist.mq.edu.au/251/Thierful.htm (It's a review of a couple of Thiering's books). Doug  SignatureDoug Weller -- A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/ >> Please see - >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > another amateur posting urls leading to cites against human caused global > warming, that's all. Do this a lot, does he ? > As for Thiering, I'll trade urls, but mine is much more detailed than > yours: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Doug > >> Please see - > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Do this a lot, does he ? Since you come in on this point, Rod - I invite you to follow the conversation between Doug and myself on sci.environment to see if Doug comes to realize for himself how outrageous his behavior has been in his so-called questioning. The thread there - "Let's get real with Joe Bastardi of Accuweather" > > As for Thiering, I'll trade urls, but mine is much more detailed than > > yours: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > - Show quoted text -- Please note how out of date Doug's link is. Based on my own conversations with Chris Forbes, I learned that he never really understood BT's complicated calendar theory. If anyone really wants proof of the existence of Thiering pesher, study in full - Dr. Barbara Thiering "The Three and a Half Years of Elijah", Novum Testamentum 23,1, 1981, pp.41-55. get out of here > Please see - > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > David Christainsen - meteorologist > get out of here >... You are out of order. >> get out of here >> ... > > You are out of order. I don't see how you can tell that without examinining him. SignatureCorporate society looks after everything. All it asks of anyone, all it has ever asked of anyone, is that they do not interfere with management decisions. -From “Rollerball” > >> get out of here > >> ... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I don't see how you can tell that without examinining him. >... Did Paul meet Jesus? My answer: Yes Did Paul distort Christianity? My answer: No > get out of here You never did say: Was the sex that Paul had with Jesus purely ritualistic, or were they homosexual lovers? > > get out of here > > You never did say: Was the sex that Paul had with > Jesus purely ritualistic, or were they homosexual > lovers? My answer: Neither because Jesus was celebate in the Essenic way and when Jesus did have sex, it was for procreation with his wife to continue his Davidic line according to the dynastic rules of the Tribe of Judah. As a diaspora Essene, Paul was like Jesus, celebate except for his temporary, dynastic marriage to Tamar-Phoebe. Paul belonged to the Tribe of Benjamin. > My answer: Neither because Jesus was celebate So you're saying he could raise the dead but not his penis? And just how large is the Cock of Christ, anyway? How big is the Johnson of Jesus, the Holy Hog... the Pius Prick... the Saintly Schlong... the Divine Dick? You think he had a tiny little w.nker? A real needle of a prick? So don't I. See, if he wasn't using it -- as you claim -- than anything larger than "Micro Penis" would have been pure vanity. It would have been "Just for show," to impress the guys. Obviously we have to all agree that Jesus had a tiny little bug dick. I mean, the guy could turn water into wine, manipulate other people's bodies to the point of curing blindness and Leprosy. Heck, he could even bring a dead body back to life. We can't look at all that and consider for a moment that the guy had no control over the size of his own trouser mouse. So, you either conclude that Jesus had an itty bitty tinky winky, or you attribute great vanity to Jesus... God is vain. Are you saying God is vain? No? Then you have to be saying that Jesus was sporting a push-pin between his legs. > > get out of here > > You never did say: Was the sex that Paul had with > Jesus purely ritualistic, or were they homosexual > lovers? Some answers http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/3558 "In #3525 Pete Gaioni asked me why Paul would have chosen to adopt the dynastic lifestyle, delaying marriage until 36, and having sex only in order to produce offspring. Such a lifestyle was open to any man in ascetic circles, influenced by the Greek valuation of virginity. The descendants of the great priestly and royal lines were the highest example of the order, but other men who wanted both celibacy yet offspring could adopt it. In Acts 8:27 the Ethiopian is described as eunouchos dynastes Kandakes. It is translated as 'a eunuch, a minister of Candace', but both terms have a special meaning. A 'eunuch', as shown by Mt 19:12, was a celibate, not a castrate. He could be a permanent celibate, in the highest order of Essenes, and in that case was a 'eunuch' from 'birth' - initiation. The two other kinds refer through special meanings to versions of the dynastic order." |
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