SEMITIC CASTE SYSTEM
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kalratri - 17 Jun 2004 18:17 GMT Are you a Jew, Christian or Muslim? Then do YOU know which caste you belong to in the semitic caste system as laid down by Moses the law giver? If you are Christian or Muslim you are the low caste Israelites who will be killed if you even dare enter the temple of Jerusalem.
The first thing someone thinks about in Hinduism is the caste system, strangely enough the Bible is full of rabid casteism and yet not one book on religion even mentions or studies the Jewish casteism and the fact that all three "semitic" religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam ALL favor casteism because they all favor Moses, the founder of the semitic caste tradition.
The semites have put forth the biggest lies of all, first that they believe in equality of man, second that they have one God (el, Yahweh and Elohim are multiple Gods not one).
Jews seem to be "mini-me Indo-Aryans" except that the Hindus have always been honest about their religion, I guess honesty is the one thing that separates an Aryan from a Semite:
1)Cohanim priests : And God said, "Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priest; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary MUST BE PUT TO DEATH." (Numbers 3:10, KJV)
2)Levi : We are later told that only Levites are to serve the Tabernacle (in the status of laborer and maintenance), but only the sons of Aharon are to serve as priests in the Tabernacle. The whole Book of Leviticus expands on what a Levite or Cohen may or may not do
3)Israelites : servants of the priests : If they enter the temple they must be put to death! No one is to enter the temple of the LORD except the priests and Levites on duty; 4)Gentiles = untouchables:
NEW TESTAMENT ON UNTOUCHABLES
Gal 2:11-14 11But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. 12For before that certain came from James, HE DID EAT with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. 13And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
However, it was exceedingly difficult for Jews to go to Gentiles with the gospel. They were taught from their birth that Gentiles were unclean and were to be avoided. This was so engrained into their culture that most Jews considered Gentiles little higher on the hierarchy of importance than DOGS. Their traditional law forbade eating with Gentiles, and contact with them made one unclean.
JESUS CALLS GENTILES DOGS AND DEFENDS CASTE SYSTEM:
Jesus calls sick child and woman dogs Matthew 15:10-28:
Then after Jesus defined the parameters of his mission, the woman knelt before him and said, "Lord, help me." Jesus' next words here deeply offend me. He says to the woman, "It is not fair to take the children's food and throw it to the dogs." Do you understand what that means? In other words, it isn't fair to take the gifts for the children of God and give them to the Gentiles. The meaning alone is disturbing, but the wording is downright offensive. Jesus calls this woman and her daughter "the dogs"! And he talks about the divine nature as a commodity, as if there's only enough of him to go around to the Jews. "It is not fair to take the gifts for the children of God and throw it to the dogs."
Jesus also states that he defends caste system -- Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."
In other words anyone who becomes a Christian gets to be the equivalent of a Shudra in Hinduism -- they get low caste Israelite status...people who will be slaughtered if they dare even enter the temple!
ISLAM DEFENDS MOSES CASTE SYSTEM: MOHAMMAD LOVES MOSES!
Now let us remember that it was Moses and his brother Aaron both from the tribe of Levi who set up the Jewish caste system:
Let's look at Islam which claims that all men are equal but Muslims fail to mention that all converts should be nothing more than low caste shudras AND RESPECTS MOSES THE CASTEist LAW GIVER THE MOST:
The first time a Jew reads the Quran he is often surprised by the fact that the Quran does not focus on Muhammed, Ishmael or the Arab people. Instead the Quran focuses primarilly on the Jewish patriarchs and prophets.
The Quran concerns itself primarily with the history and future of the Children of Israel. Thus the primary figures of the Quran are figures like Abraham, Joseph, Moses and King David. In fact the primary figure of the Quran is Moshe Aveynu (Moses our father) who is mentioned more than any other individual in the Quran. Many Jews are surprised to learn that one entire "Surah" (chapter) of the Quran (Surah 17) is titled "The Children of Israel". Of all the Prophets cited in the Quran, our Prophet Moses is talked about the most, even more than Prophet Muhammad, within the Quran, his life, journies, and relationships with the children of Israel is spoken about more than other Prophets. Of all the Prophets cited in the Quran, our Prophet Moses is talked about the most, even more than Prophet Muhammad, within the Quran, his life, journies, and relationships with the children of Israel is spoken about more than other Prophets. 176 Verses in the Quran mention Moses: While only 4 mention Muhammad. The Quran teaches that the Jews are Elohim's Chosen People Children of Israel! call to mind the favour which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all others. (Surah 2:47 repeated in 2:122) Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples.(Surah 5:21) We did deliver aforetime the Children of Israel from humiliating Punishment, Inflicted by Pharaoh, for he was arrogant (even) among inordinate transgressors. And We chose them aforetime above the nations, knowingly, (Surah 44:30-32) We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16)
AnonMoos - 17 Jun 2004 19:55 GMT Not really. The ancient Israelites did have hereditary distinctions between priestly lineages, non-priestly Levites, non-Levitic Israelites, and non-Israelites, but there wasn't much of a "caste" system as such -- there was little hereditary ccupational specialization (except among priests and a small number of Levite temple singers and non-Israelite temple servants), and there was no endogamy or ban against intermarriage (priests, Levites, and non-Levitic Israelites were all free to take wives from among the other groups). During certain periods of history, there were attempts to ban intermarriage between Israelites and non-Israelites, but these were never kept up over the long term. There were distinctions between degrees of ritual purity as to how far someone was permitted to aproach the temple sanctuary, but in this context, a female of priestly lineage was considered less pure than a male non-Levitic Israelite (i.e. the "Court of Israel" was further in than the "Court of the Women"), and I'm not sure how far all this carried over into everyday life.
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kalratri - 18 Jun 2004 03:14 GMT Not really? Are you serious? The hereditary priesthood, hereditary Levites, the kingly line of David of the tribe of Judah and the servants Israelites. Gentile untouchables.
That's pretty hereditary. and that's pretty much the caste system.
Now don't try to make excuses for your caste system, better admit that you have it. Any reasonable person will see that it is a caste system.
> Not really. The ancient Israelites did have hereditary distinctions > between priestly lineages, non-priestly Levites, non-Levitic Israelites, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the "Court of the Women"), and I'm not sure how far all this carried > over into everyday life. Martin Edwards - 18 Jun 2004 19:35 GMT >Not really? Are you serious? >The hereditary priesthood, hereditary Levites, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >you have it. Any reasonable person will see that it is a caste >system. My feeling is that he fully explained the differences, especially free intermarriage. You refuse to accept it, that is all.
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kalratri - 18 Jun 2004 03:14 GMT Not really? Are you serious? The hereditary priesthood, hereditary Levites, the kingly line of David of the tribe of Judah and the servants Israelites. Gentile untouchables.
That's pretty hereditary. and that's pretty much the caste system.
Now don't try to make excuses for your caste system, better admit that you have it. Any reasonable person will see that it is a caste system.
> Not really. The ancient Israelites did have hereditary distinctions > between priestly lineages, non-priestly Levites, non-Levitic Israelites, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > the "Court of the Women"), and I'm not sure how far all this carried > over into everyday life. AnonMoos - 18 Jun 2004 07:00 GMT >> Not really. The ancient Israelites did have hereditary distinctions >> between priestly lineages, non-priestly Levites, non-Levitic Israelites, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> the "Court of the Women"), and I'm not sure how far all this carried >> over into everyday life.
> Not really? Are you serious? The hereditary priesthood, hereditary > Levites, the kingly line of David of the tribe of Judah and the > servants Israelites. Gentile untouchables. That's pretty > hereditary. and that's pretty much the caste system. There were special hereditary statuses, but there was not a real caste system. The definition of a caste system generally includes:
1) OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALIZATION
2) ENDOGAMY (BAN ON INTERMARRIAGE)
3) HIERARCHICAL RANKING OF HEREDITARY GROUPS
4) RITUAL IMPURITY OF LOWER-RANKING GROUPS
In ancient Israelite society, numbers 1, 3, and 4 occurred in rather rudimentary or partial form at most, while number 2 didn't occur at all. Furthermore, there were no "degraded" hereditary groups within Israelite society -- certain Israelite lineages had special honorific status (such as priests, Levites, and the royal house), but the great majority of Israelites were not singled out for any particular hereditary honor or shame -- they were just average or ordinary.
P.S. The hereditary temple servants weren't Israelites at all.
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Rodrigo Diaz - 17 Jun 2004 21:05 GMT Learn how to spell "righteous" before you bloviate, ya kalb! > Are you a Jew, Christian or Muslim? Then do YOU know which caste you > belong to in the semitic caste system as laid down by Moses the law > giver? If you are Christian or Muslim you are the low caste > Israelites who will be killed if you even dare enter the temple of > Jerusalem. > > The first thing someone thinks about in Hinduism is the caste system, > strangely enough the Bible is full of rabid casteism and yet not one > book on religion even mentions or studies the Jewish casteism and the > fact that all three "semitic" religions of Judaism, Christianity and > Islam ALL favor casteism because they all favor Moses, the founder of > the semitic caste tradition. > > The semites have put forth the biggest lies of all, first that they > believe in equality of man, second that they have one God (el, Yahweh > and Elohim are multiple Gods not one). > > Jews seem to be "mini-me Indo-Aryans" except that the Hindus have > always been honest about their religion, I guess honesty is the one > thing that separates an Aryan from a Semite: > > 1)Cohanim priests : > And God said, "Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priest; anyone > else who approaches the sanctuary MUST BE PUT TO DEATH." (Numbers > 3:10, KJV) > > 2)Levi : > We are later told that only Levites are to serve the Tabernacle (in > the status of laborer and maintenance), but only the sons of Aharon > are to serve as priests in the Tabernacle. The whole Book of > Leviticus expands on what a Levite or Cohen may or may not do > > 3)Israelites : servants of the priests : > If they enter the temple they must be put to death! > No one is to enter the temple of the LORD except the priests and > Levites on duty; > 4)Gentiles = untouchables: > > > NEW TESTAMENT ON UNTOUCHABLES > > Gal 2:11-14 11But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to > the face, because he was to be blamed. 12For before that certain came > from James, HE DID EAT with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he > withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the > circumcision. 13And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; > insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. > > However, it was exceedingly difficult for Jews to go to Gentiles with > the gospel. They were taught from their birth that Gentiles were > unclean and were to be avoided. This was so engrained into their > culture that most Jews considered Gentiles little higher on the > hierarchy of importance than DOGS. Their traditional law forbade > eating with Gentiles, and contact with them made one unclean. > > JESUS CALLS GENTILES DOGS AND DEFENDS CASTE SYSTEM: > > Jesus calls sick child and woman dogs Matthew 15:10-28: > > Then after Jesus defined the parameters of his mission, the woman > knelt before him and said, "Lord, help me." Jesus' next words here > deeply offend me. He says to the woman, "It is not fair to take the > children's food and throw it to the dogs." Do you understand what that > means? In other words, it isn't fair to take the gifts for the > children of God and give them to the Gentiles. The meaning alone is > disturbing, but the wording is downright offensive. Jesus calls this > woman and her daughter "the dogs"! And he talks about the divine > nature as a commodity, as if there's only enough of him to go around > to the Jews. "It is not fair to take the gifts for the children of God > and throw it to the dogs." > > Jesus also states that he defends caste system -- Matthew 5:17 "Think > not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come > to destroy, but to fulfill." > > In other words anyone who becomes a Christian gets to be the > equivalent of a Shudra in Hinduism -- they get low caste Israelite > status...people who will be slaughtered if they dare even enter the > temple! > > ISLAM DEFENDS MOSES CASTE SYSTEM: MOHAMMAD LOVES MOSES! > > Now let us remember that it was Moses and his brother Aaron both from > the tribe of Levi who set up the Jewish caste system: > > Let's look at Islam which claims that all men are equal but Muslims > fail to mention that all converts should be nothing more than low > caste shudras AND RESPECTS MOSES THE CASTEist LAW GIVER THE MOST: > > The first time a Jew reads the Quran he is often surprised by the fact > that the Quran does not focus on Muhammed, Ishmael or the Arab people. > Instead the Quran focuses primarilly on the Jewish patriarchs and > prophets. > > The Quran concerns itself primarily with the history and future of the > Children of Israel. Thus the primary figures of the Quran are figures > like Abraham, Joseph, Moses and King David. In fact the primary figure > of the Quran is Moshe Aveynu (Moses our father) who is mentioned more > than any other individual in the Quran. Many Jews are surprised to > learn that one entire "Surah" (chapter) of the Quran (Surah 17) is > titled "The Children of Israel". > Of all the Prophets cited in the Quran, our Prophet Moses is talked > about the most, even more than Prophet Muhammad, within the Quran, his > life, journies, and relationships with the children of Israel is > spoken about more than other Prophets. > Of all the Prophets cited in the Quran, our Prophet Moses is talked > about the most, even more than Prophet Muhammad, within the Quran, his > life, journies, and relationships with the children of Israel is > spoken about more than other Prophets. 176 Verses in the Quran mention > Moses: > While only 4 mention Muhammad. > The Quran teaches that the Jews are Elohim's Chosen People > Children of Israel! call to mind the favour which I bestowed upon you, > and that I preferred you to all others. (Surah 2:47 repeated in 2:122) > Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance > the favour of Allah unto you, when He produced prophets among you, > made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among > the peoples.(Surah 5:21) > > We did deliver aforetime the Children of Israel from humiliating > Punishment, Inflicted by Pharaoh, for he was arrogant (even) among > inordinate transgressors. And We chose them aforetime above the > nations, knowingly, (Surah 44:30-32) > > We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16)
kalratri - 18 Jun 2004 02:50 GMT There was intermarriage in every "caste system", but who cares this is a clear caste system and don't deny it.
)Cohanim priests : And God said, "Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priest; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary MUST BE PUT TO DEATH." (Numbers 3:10, KJV)
2)Levi : We are later told that only Levites are to serve the Tabernacle (in the status of laborer and maintenance), but only the sons of Aharon are to serve as priests in the Tabernacle. The whole Book of Leviticus expands on what a Levite or Cohen may or may not do
3)Israelites : servants of the priests : If they enter the temple they must be put to death! No one is to enter the temple of the LORD except the priests and Levites on duty; 4)Gentiles = untouchables:
> Learn how to spell "righteous" before you bloviate, ya kalb! I know learning that your low caste Israelite head will be cut off if you dare enter the temple of Jerusalem makes you think of spelling...
> > Are you a Jew, Christian or Muslim? Then do YOU know which caste you > > belong to in the semitic caste system as laid down by Moses the law [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) zr - 18 Jun 2004 04:18 GMT KJV, what a waste of fiction.
> There was intermarriage in every "caste system", but who cares this is > a clear caste system and don't deny it. [quoted text clipped - 148 lines] > > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) kalratri - 18 Jun 2004 02:50 GMT There was intermarriage in every "caste system", but who cares this is a clear caste system and don't deny it.
)Cohanim priests : And God said, "Appoint Aaron and his sons to serve as priest; anyone else who approaches the sanctuary MUST BE PUT TO DEATH." (Numbers 3:10, KJV)
2)Levi : We are later told that only Levites are to serve the Tabernacle (in the status of laborer and maintenance), but only the sons of Aharon are to serve as priests in the Tabernacle. The whole Book of Leviticus expands on what a Levite or Cohen may or may not do
3)Israelites : servants of the priests : If they enter the temple they must be put to death! No one is to enter the temple of the LORD except the priests and Levites on duty; 4)Gentiles = untouchables:
> Learn how to spell "righteous" before you bloviate, ya kalb! I know learning that your low caste Israelite head will be cut off if you dare enter the temple of Jerusalem makes you think of spelling...
> > Are you a Jew, Christian or Muslim? Then do YOU know which caste you > > belong to in the semitic caste system as laid down by Moses the law [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) Martin Edwards - 18 Jun 2004 19:37 GMT > > > > Jews seem to be "mini-me Indo-Aryans" except that the Hindus have > > always been honest about their religion, I guess honesty is the one > > thing that separates an Aryan from a Semite: > > Typical papist sophistry. Why not just admit your antisemitism straight out?
******Martin Edwards.******
Come on! Nobody's going to ride that lousy freeway when they can take the Red Car for a nickel.
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Merican - 19 Jun 2004 05:03 GMT If you had a job, you wouldn't have time to type such crap.
> Are you a Jew, Christian or Muslim? Then do YOU know which caste you > belong to in the semitic caste system as laid down by Moses the law [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) mosalmounkosh - 22 Jun 2004 09:34 GMT and if you could read and write, you wouldn't have to post such a pathetic answer to hide the fact that you can't read what he typed!
> If you had a job, you wouldn't have time to type such crap. > [quoted text clipped - 125 lines] > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) Merican - 23 Jun 2004 04:30 GMT I know nonsense when I see it.
> and if you could read and write, you wouldn't have to post such a > pathetic answer to hide the fact that you can't read what he typed! [quoted text clipped - 128 lines] > > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) kalratri - 23 Jun 2004 22:47 GMT Semite dogs here, semite christian dog servants there typical of them attacking the Aryan. We only need one Aryan to destroy these semite loser sons of mud...er, Adam!
Well the message was mostly meant for Aryans and their descendants, who cares about what a bunch of mud descendant seMITEs think! Thinking was taught to these mud golem by the Aryans.
Semites are subhuman mud golem, Aryans divine. To listen to mud creatures is silly.
> I know nonsense when I see it. > [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > > > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > > > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) Merican - 24 Jun 2004 04:18 GMT That's right. Anyone that doesn't agree with you is sub human. Much easier to kill them that way isn't it.
> Semite dogs here, semite christian dog servants there typical of them > attacking the Aryan. We only need one Aryan to destroy these semite [quoted text clipped - 142 lines] > > > > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good > > > > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16) iov - 24 Jun 2004 10:06 GMT nazi brown monkey
> Semite dogs here, semite christian dog servants there typical of them > attacking the Aryan. We only need one Aryan to destroy these semite [quoted text clipped - 174 lines] >> > > > Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good >> > > > and pure; and We favoured them above the nations. (Surah 45:16)
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