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Inger's 'sacred cats' are the Puma concolor

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Doug Weller - 29 May 2007 16:24 GMT
Aka cougar, mountain lion.  Puma is the Quechua word for cougar. That is,
the Inca word.
She evidently found a cat fanciers site that said the Inca revered sacred
cats and decided that showed European influence. An indication of the
'scholarly nature' of her research.

Doug
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David Johnson - 29 May 2007 18:31 GMT
> Aka cougar, mountain lion.  Puma is the Quechua word for cougar. That is,
> the Inca word.
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>
> Doug

Just remember:

"Inger said it, therefore it is wrong."

will never fail you.

David

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...Except of course we know it hasn't got one."

johansson - 29 May 2007 20:59 GMT
You have problem David?
As usual you are trying to feed false information.
You better believe the contrary to your saying,
if you don't you loose this time as you done in the past.
I think you better start your reading up to present knowledge.
One of the theories is that the cat came to South America 8 million years
ago.( in archaeology.about.com the other year this url was one of the
refered ones: http://www.messybeast.com/cathistory.htm
The interesting and odd thing with that theory is that no one found that old
or close to that old remains. Only theories from DNA-studies. Which of
course could be right, but that I and many others do have problems with.

Inger E

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> > Aka cougar, mountain lion.  Puma is the Quechua word for cougar. That is,
> > the Inca word.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> ...Except of course we know it hasn't got one."
Doug Weller - 29 May 2007 23:18 GMT
>You have problem David?
>As usual you are trying to feed false information.
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>or close to that old remains. Only theories from DNA-studies. Which of
>course could be right, but that I and many others do have problems with.

Yes, I already posted about the 8 million year thing. Nothing odd about
the lack of fossils. But a 400 000 year old fossil is not a theory. Let
alone the Ice Age fossils which are still too early for what you seem to
be claiming.

Doug

>Inger E
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>> ...Except of course we know it hasn't got one."
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David Johnson - 30 May 2007 01:28 GMT
>>You have problem David?
>>As usual you are trying to feed false information.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> theory. Let alone the Ice Age fossils which are still too early for
> what you seem to be claiming.

Inger, do you not realize that I killfiled you long ago* and thus never
see your posts (except when other's quote them). Like most (except,
probably, those interested in tracing the progress of psychiatric
disorders), I don't _want_ to see any posts from you.

So go away.

David

* And repeatedly thereafter every time you tried to get past everyone's
kill files in your own spammy way.

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   "So many of you come time and time again to watch this final end of
everything which I think is really wonderful and then to return home to
your own eras and raise families and strive for new and better societies
and fight terrible wars for what you know is right, it gives one real
hope for the whole future of lifekind...

...Except of course we know it hasn't got one."

Peter Alaca - 29 May 2007 18:37 GMT

> Aka cougar, mountain lion.  Puma is the Quechua word for cougar.
> That is, the Inca word.
> She evidently found a cat fanciers site that said the Inca revered
> sacred cats and decided that showed European influence.
> An indication of the 'scholarly nature' of her research.

Yes, and this was her astonishing reply, although in the
original thread:

  "If it was the so called 'pampas cat' (Felis colocolo) or
   one of the cats from the Old World that Incas and their
   ancestors worshiped enough to make sculptures of as
   well as hugh 'pictures' in terrain, that I don't know.
   How ever neither do I know where the Pampas cat had
   it's ancestors. That's not enough to declare an animal
   native to South America if that 'native' only stands for,
   as in this case, knowledge that the cat where there
   when the Spaniards arrived."

and

  "As for the cats I still wonder who brought cats to the
   New World. One thing is sure..... they didn't swim."

It almost made me cry.

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Doug Weller - 29 May 2007 20:49 GMT
>> Aka cougar, mountain lion.  Puma is the Quechua word for cougar.
>> That is, the Inca word.
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>
>It almost made me cry.

I think a special kind of ignorance is required to make the sort of
statements Inger makes.

Doug
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Matt Giwer - 30 May 2007 21:54 GMT
>> Aka cougar, mountain lion.  Puma is the Quechua word for cougar.
>> That is, the Inca word.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>   "As for the cats I still wonder who brought cats to the
>    New World. One thing is sure..... they didn't swim."

    Even if they used swim fins and a snorkel?

> It almost made me cry.

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