History Forum / General / Archaeology / January 2008

On Mon 28 Jan 2008 lwk2431 <lwk2431@yahoo.com> wrote:

           
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While I have no doubt that karma and (re)incarnation are
facts of life, the verse in question reads unambiguously        
"once" to die. Read Hebrews 9:27 from the Latin Vulgate:    
               
 "et  quemadmodum        statutum          est   hominibus
  and to the extent that it is established to be men        

  semel mori    post  hoc  autem iudicium"          
  once  to die, after this but   the judgment

And here's the same verse from the original Greek:      
         
 "kai kay          oson     apokeitai       toiv   anyrwpoiv
  and according to how much it is lying off to the men          
     
  apax apoyanein meta  de  touto krisiv"      
  once to die,   after but this  the judgment
       
Once to die is correct. The mortal physical human bodies of
sinners are born to die, from cradle to grave. Although I'm        
certain of it, I'll simply say that I devoutly believe that          
the Immortal spirit persons (souls, psychii) of dead humans        
eventually, inexorably, get kicked out of heaven, cast down      
from Purgatory, to incarnate into the newborn mortal infant
body on the day when that baby is born. I know it. But it's        
hard to tell people what you know if they don't know it too,
as it takes one to know one. So I'll express it as a belief.      
             
I believe this has happened to all of us, on average, about      
two thousand times over the last two hundred thousand years,
more or less, 2000 times we've each lived as mortals, died,        
sojourned in the heavens, got kicked out and born into yet          
another new, mortal, human incarnation. Two thousand times.      
           
I also believe when sinners die, their souls don't always
immediately enter the Light, but occasionally get trapped        
in near-earth Limbo, what the bible calls "outer darkness".
Psychic mediums commonly refer to these troubled discarnate            
souls as "grounded" spirits (entities, beings, souls, etc.)      
This is why psychics and experienced ghost hunters, shamans,
priests, etc., try to persuade souls who are still trapped        
in Limbo to cross the abyss into the Light, to join their        
loved ones, and prepare to incarnate into a newborn human
body when God "punches their karmic ticket", so to speak.        
I believe that souls trapped in Limbo can stay imprisoned
there for up to a thousand years, but no longer than that          
(the book of Revelation really describes this in detail).      
             
I remember the last time I was kicked out of heaven, because
I didn't understand what I'd done wrong, or why I got kicked        
out (again), and with so little prior notice--only just long      
enough to argue in vain with the powers that be. It was very
traumatic, because over there you have a much clearer vision  
of the hardships awaiting in time (Judgment, Saturn, Kronos,
Father Time), the karmic tribulation that awaits souls once          
they incarnate into a new mortal body, in its appointed new
time and place, in this fallen state of this physical world.    
           
And I remember bits and pieces of past lives, i.e. lives of    
ancestors, clear enough to know that (re)incarnation is an    
incontrovertible fact, mortality, hardship, vulnerability,
and eventually death, being the inconvenient wages of sin.      
It's hardly convenient being Judged precisely according to
your works of good and works of evil, but that's the stark    
reality of what happens each time you die. Not only is this
mandatory, but is participatory, and is all for our own good,    
knowing that freedom and responsibility do walk hand-in-hand.
           
That said, the term "re"-incarnation is inaccurate, misnomer,    
because every time a mortal man dies (thus all mortal life on
planet Earth, all owing to the Adamic Fall circa ~200,000 BC),
that dead mortal body is extinct, the memory of it bequeathed        
to oblivion. The heavenly memory of that mortal human life is
still there in crystal clarity, from cradle to grave, but the      
mortal human ego is of the mortal human flesh, of the mortal    
human brain, and so it dies with the mortal human body. See?

The spirit-person retains all the development from that life,
and in effect, karmically-speaking, picks up where he or she    
left off last time they died, their previous lives karmically
echoing into their future, to the third and fourth generation      
individually, and collectively up to many thousands of years.
So every time we're born, we pick up where we left off in the
profound sense of the word. Familial relations tend to flock    
together, old friends, old enemies, synchronicities, or what
some call "karmogenetic" memory. It's like when some people
are born with a birthmark in the same place that the person        
they were in a recent lifetime received a fatal injury, etc.

I believe that the reason most "westernized" Christians don't    
believe in karma and reincarnation, is unconsciously motivated,
because dealing with death and dying is seldom an easy thing,
and getting kicked out of heaven (the second death) is seldom      
much easier. In some ways it's actually harder, because while
the souls of sinners feel superconscious shame for some time
after death, the same souls feel contempt for some time just      
before the second death, contempt like "what did I do wrong?"
"I was doing so good here in Purgatory. Why kick me out now?"  
     
I believe the reason for this is because our past lives were
not the same people we are today. When you begin to remember    
a past life, the first thing you notice is that it's not you
in the ego sense (in the physical sense) of the word. It was    
your spirit-person at that stage of development in that time
and place of that past life. But your soul has subsequently
developed beyond that personality, into the ever-developing    
person you are today. The soul is eternally in development,
so it's often surprising to see who you were in past lives.
It's a weird feeling, because when you clearly remember a      
particular past life, you psychically-resurrect that dead
personality, which psychic mediums commonly refer to as a    
ghost in "visitation". This is most easily done in dreams        
while sleeping, or by day-dreaming while awake, in trance.
It is said that when living people become gravely worried
about someone or something, while they're sleeping, or in      
trance, they can appear as a full body apparition hundreds      
or even thousands of miles away, sometimes so real-looking,        
so solid-looking, that they don't even look like a ghost--to        
the people who've reported seeing them. These very energetic
apparitions in visitation are commonly called a doppelganger.
         
So, when you consider the profoundly traumatic memories of
past deaths and past second deaths, it's no wonder that so      
many unbelievers/fundamentalist-types block their psychic
vision (clairvoyance) into the circles of heaven and hell.        
Heaven is ecstatic beyond words, but hell is excruciating
beyond words. So it's no wonder the "fundie"-types prefer
to forget all about it, and remain comfortably oblivious      
to both heaven and hell. It's the comfort-zone mentality
that blocks their psychic vision, occulting both heaven      
and hell from their view. Thus the fundamentalist-types
tend to become entangled in this mundane world. I think
this is why the fundies either mock or shun all higher
learning, or what is commonly referred to as the Occult.      
They want nothing to do with it, but when death finally      
comes they have no choice but to the face the Light, in    
which they see the future Judgment which uniquely awaits    
them once they've crossed over, each according to their      
works, all just like the bible says, all inconveniently          
to those who don't wish to be so rudely inconvenienced.
             
But that's just my opinion, "I could be wrong now, but      
I don't think so, 'cause it's a jungle out there, it's      
a jungle out there" [theme from 'Monk' by Randy Newman].  
   
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min          
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/