History Forum / General / Archaeology / July 2008

Jack Linthicum wrote, 06/07/2008 15:19:

That's probably why it is "causing a quiet stir in
archaeological circles" :-)
I wonder how many archaeologists ever heard about
this piece of sh ..tone, although "It was found
about a decade ago" and I wonder how many of them
were stirred by it, or ever will be.

But it is appropriate for sci.arch.  Ditto for SRQ, SHA.

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There is something profoundly wrong in the attitude
of yourself, Peter, and a few other sci.archers but
I am here to make a few changes in people's attitudes.

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Please note the pounding Tom, Doug, and Peter took in

"Dr. Thiering refutes a charge of using 'special pleading' to
disregard some C14 data on DSS"

They were discredited because Eric and I had something
on topic to archaeology to say that was new.

David Christainsen

From the reminder which Peter Alaca has repeatedly posted:

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                   *Charter Sci.Archaeology*
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        1. To exchange information on various concerns
        in archaeology, including method and theory, pot
        hunting, egyptology, typology, **dating**, and other
        related topics.

                                  . . . .
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                        End of charter
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*What is archaeology*?

        "Archaeology is usually defined as the study of the human
        past through material culture ....
     

The stone itself seems to fit those criteria at least. However, I
agree that the theological implications of its decipherment is not a
topic for this news group.

Eric Stevens

Did you know that the real Jesus was an extremely
funny guy?  For him to walk on water, turn water
into wine, and raise people from the dead is a scream.

It's the symbolic, spiritual meaning of his resurrection
that is serious IMHO.

Peace,
Dave

P.S.
Sorry, no archaeology from me this time but you
can't squeeze blood out of a stone (tablet).

I believe that the only words in the above which are not deliberate
lies and demonstrably false are the words "and" and "to".

The rest is Matt the Pratt's usual nonsense, posted without regard to
relevancy or truth.

Ken Down

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Your claims at proper interpretation of myth are those of a person
who
beleives all things should be explained without God. Explaining things
with God does not mean to fabricate miracles and fantasy. And for
archeologists and scientists who accuse the belief of God as being the
myth-side and fabricated side of life, they ignore how much supposed
science is fabricated myth. Such persons who fabricate sci-fi rely on
their claim that God is myth so that their myths of science can be
claimed
as their own interpretation. Such know-all scholars will force single
interpretations on words such as Osiris or Adonis etc.
Osiris merely means reborn, the moon gets reborn, the sun gets reborn,
planets like Saturn are reborn and the true astronomy is what
determines
what is referred to. If it is reborn in 3 days it is the moon. If it
is reborn
in one day it is the sun, though religion has altered it to honoring
the
3rd day or 3 days after solstice. But that is why when astronomy goes
false it is then called a false religion (astrology).

(quoted)       Adonis is the husband of Venus. In this imagining
Adonis is the son
of King Cinyras and either the king's daughter, Myrrha, or Astarte
herself.
Astarte as Venus falls in love with Adonis. Mars becomes jealous of
Adonis,
turns into a boar and kills Adonis. Venus travels to Hades (he
descended in
to hell) to retrieve him. Pluto's wife is also in love with him and
they
agree each will have him half the year. Venus gets the summer so this
is
celebrated on the Vernal Equinox as is Easter, the name Easter coming
from
Ishtar.        It takes Astarte two days to broker this deal so he can
be
resurrected. This explains the reason Christians insist upon three
days in
the tomb -- from old testament prophecy -- while having only two
calendar
days between death and resurrection which is from existing religious
custom.

As for Venus her LORD (adonis) is Mars (known as Damuzi or Tamuz
which is an abbreviation of Tau of Damuzi). But this does not take
away the fact
that so many flags bear the crescent moon reborn beside Venus.
Easter is fixed to spring equinox only because Jesus said he was the
morning star Venus (rising morningstar). Venus has five points of
rising
and those points rotate in 243 years so that you cannot claim Venus
has
one point such as vernal equinox as its rebirth. The most profound
date
for a rising Venus is Jan 6 which in 2000 BC was winter solstice not
vernal equinox. The significance of a rising Mar 20 Venus comes from
834 BC when Toth 1 new year was March 20. This is because in 936 years
of 365 days Venus is 585 x 584 days, and Mars is 438x 780 days.
If you wonder where this 936 years comes from it has passed from
Egypt and Hamurabi of 1770 BC down to the Maya of Copan in 1314 BC.
The year 2256 requires 3744 to total 6000 years, and 3744 is divisible
by
936 four times, and by 312 twelve times...
as in 312 BC and the Magi and 312 AD. Due to our mistakes it no longer
adds up to 624 years, but the marks of those years are specific
crossings
or Tau or Tamuz as well as venus as the sign of the Cross in the
stars.

Someone posted in BAS (Biblical Archeology Society forum) about this
tablet of 3 day resurrection. This was my reply.
A messiah tablet already exists from 2000 BC its called Osiris the
reborn from the dead. It refers to 3 days the moon takes to pass the
sun as death to absence to rise every 30 days. And its the main reason
for 1000 years they said Jesus died at 30 six months after he was
baptized at 30.

So it is also why they said he died in 30 AD of which
later when Beasus of Liebana said it was 5200 years from
Adam too Christ (he meant Christ's birth) but the numbers
totalled to 5227 years which puts Christ in 27 AD.
This was excused as no error of 27 AD as Christ birth
but rather as an excuse to say he was born in 4 BC.
It was still just 30 years because the 33 years came back
with the Protestant movement and the half week of
Daniel's 70 weeks.

So Hebrew text of Savior's rising from the dead in 3 days
can date anywhere for 2000 years of BC because it is
Egyptian prophecy of the moon which is claimed to come from
Ur of Chaldea. That reborn moon of 30 days is also
likened to an Osiris Saturn or reborn Saturn whose orbit is
30 years. Thus the Saturnalia is not the sun but the planet.
However, there are three zodiac points to claim as the
counter of orbits. Regulus rules or counts orbits as the orbits
pass that star of Leo. But there is also the horns,
those of Capricorn and those of Taurus.
Taurus stands like a chicken wish bone slingshot on the
west horizon for sunset. Where as Capricorn actually
has a middle star between horns that planets cross.
This is why the Capricorn Saturnalia gets mistaken for the sun
which meets winter solstice 30 times in 30 years
for the one time you wait for Saturn to get there.
So much for Jesus dying for 3 days when he is 30 years old.

Meanwhile Saturn measures the 177 years of Ur as
six orbits instead of 180 years. Just like the moon whose six orbits
is 177 days not 180 days. Times 10 is 1770 years instead of
1800 years. This is confused with what was called the 600-year
calendar (3x600) which is actually half-cycles of 1200-year Venus.
Another confusion because 1200 egyptian years of 365 days
for Venus is only 1199 Julian years.
Meanwhile the 1770 years BC for Jesus as 60 orbits of Saturn
are proven by astronomy programs to be only 1768 years.
So if they count from 1770 BC then they end in 2 BC.
So basically the predicting that the bible does is all
about Chaldean astronomers from Ur figuring out the
real years, the real seasons, trying to prevent famine,
to feed people, keep from starving, and create calendars
that will accurately save people and prevent death.
They are ideal analogies for a coming savior.
Especially when the worst that can happen to a planet
is one of those stars falls and hits the Earth.
So there is a balance between obsession of far distant
future as the sun burning out in 40 billion years,
and the past whether man is the same millions of years
that the Earth is, while close past and close future
gets ignored. And the future becomes blurred by
astrology (false astronomy), and  the past becomes such
a fuss that it doesnt get used to see our near future.
BUT all of this sort of merges all the real origins of all
our beliefs, jewish christian pagan saviors from death,
better life, and the end we must face to live.

So what i have learned is Christ was killed.
Raised in 3 days. Visited as a descended one from
heaven for 40 days so that we recall that Noah our Savior
died on Dec 24 of 2021 BC and that it was for 40 days that
the spirit Xisuthros lied and said he was Noah raised to heaven
on Chinese date Feb 2 of 2020 BC. Unfortunately the Venus
in Aquarius of this date is past greatest elongation as is not the
rising reborn Venus in Aquarius of 40 days during the Flood
(2369 BC Jan 6).
So in conclusion the bride will now be killed this year, as
many as 10,000 in a single death, she will rise immediately,
and in flesh will apear descended from heaven for 40 days
to only those of her church, and then the rock cut from
heaven strikes the Earth producing the fire, and in 7 days
bringing the ocean plates back up as it did for Noah
(hopefully not the same 11,000 feet it did in 2370 BC)
because alot of people only have 6000 foot mountains around.

You are an a.s.

The article is not off-topic in any of the three groups to which
it was posted.

Your complaint is improper, as it is not based on the content of
the article, but rather on your view of the person who posted it.

That is irrelevant.

Hayabusa wrote, 07/07/2008 22:30: