As is his penchant, Pogue Brannigan is posting gibberish again.
Of course demonstrators need permits.
The police need to know how many demonstrators there will be, who is
responsible for them, and what they plan to do -- how they will demonstrate
peacefully, within the law.
Demonstrators cannot just block public roads and sidewalks -- any idiot
should understand that -- but Brannigan, a shyster, clearly does not.
The point remains that Americans, living in a Free Country, can demonstrate
peacefully very close to the White House -- whereas Brits reportedly cannot
demonstrate within a kilometer of 10 Downing Street -- and are hedged about
with all sorts of other restrictions, such as the Official Secrets Act and
DA Notices.
Brannigan is simply pontificating from Ignorance again, Massive Ignorance.
Brits still have not cast off the chains of class slavery and inferior
status as "Subjects of the Crown", when it comes to Free Speech....
Free Speech Rights Which Americans Treasure & Have Fought & Died For.
Appalling!
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Bryn - 14 Dec 2005 22:59 GMT
>As is his penchant, Pogue Brannigan is posting gibberish again.
>
>Of course demonstrators need permits.
The Battle of Omdurman
Ye Sons of Great Britain! come join with me
And King in praise of the gallant British Armie,
That behaved right manfully in the Soudan,
At the great battle of Omdurman.
'Twas in the year of 1898, and on the 2nd of September,
Which the Khalifa and his surviving followers will long remember,
Because Sir Herbert Kitchener has annihilated them outright,
By the British troops and Soudanese in the Omdurman fight.
The Sirdar and his Army left the camp in grand array,
And marched on to Omdurman without delay,
Just as the brigades had reached the crest adjoining the Nile,
And became engaged with the enemy in military style.
The Dervishes had re-formed under cover of a rocky eminence,
Which to them, no doubt, was a strong defence,
And they were massed together in battle array
Around the black standard of the Khalifa, which made a grand display.
But General Maxwell's Soudanese brigade seized the eminence in a short
time, And General Macdonald's brigade then joined the firing line;
And in ten minutes, long before the attack could be driven home,
The flower of the Khalifa's army was almost overthrown.
Still manfully the dusky warriors strove to make headway,
But the Soudanese troops and British swept them back without dismay,
And their main body were mown down by their deadly fire-
But still the heroic Dervishes refused to retire.
And defiantly they planted their standards and died by them,
To their honour be it said, just like brave men;
But at last they retired, with their hearts full of woe,
Leaving the field white with corpses, like a meadow dotted with snow.
The chief heroes in the fight were the 21st Lancers;
They made a brilliant charge on the enemy with ringing cheers,
And through the dusky warriors bodies their lances they did thrust,
Whereby many of them were made to lick the dust.
Then at a quarter past eleven the Sirdar sounded the advance,
And the remnant of the Dervishes fled, which was their only chance,
While the cavalry cut off their retreat while they ran;
Then the Sirdar, with the black standard of the Khalifa, headed for
Omdurman. And when the Khalifa saw his noble army cut down,
With rage and grief he did fret and frown;
Then he spurred his noble steed, and swiftly it ran,
While inwardly to himself he cried, "Catch me if you can!"
And Mahdism now has received a crushing blow,
For the Khalifa and his followers have met with a complete overthrow;
And General Gordon has been avenged, the good Christian,
By the defeat of the Khalifa at the battle of Omdurman.
Now since the Khalifa has been defeated and his rule at an end,
Let us thank God that fortunately did send
The brave Sir Herbert Kitchener to conquer that bad man,
The inhuman Khalifa, and his followers at the battle of Omdurman.
Success to Sir Herbert Kitchener! he is a great commander,
And as skilful in military tactics as the great Alexander,
Because he devised a very wise plan,
And by it has captured the town of Omdurman.
I wish success to the British and Soudanese Army,
May God protect them by land and by sea,
May he enable them always to conquer the foe,
And to establish what's right wherever they go.
>The police need to know how many demonstrators there will be, who is
>responsible for them, and what they plan to do -- how they will demonstrate
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>
>Vires et Honor

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Vince Brannigan - 14 Dec 2005 23:13 GMT
note how hines snipped the key line from the prior post
> On 14 Dec 2005 04:56:08 -0800, "bower_jonathan"
> <jonathan.bower@st-hughs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
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> unfortunate lady who was standing by the Cenotaph, reading out the
> names of British servicemen killed in Iraq, found out last week....
See that line on "Hope you've got permission from the police"
in both countries you need police permission to demonstrate
but Hines went off on his rant about free speech, and when I called him
on it, he snipped the key part
keep it in mind
Vince
> As is his penchant, Pogue Brannigan is posting gibberish again.
>
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>
> Vires et Honor
Bryn - 14 Dec 2005 23:46 GMT
>note how hines snipped the key line from the prior post
That's because hines is a pathetic ARSEHOLE!
>> On 14 Dec 2005 04:56:08 -0800, "bower_jonathan"
>> <jonathan.bower@st-hughs.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
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>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> Vires et Honor

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george - 15 Dec 2005 01:11 GMT
> >note how hines snipped the key line from the prior post
>
> That's because hines is a pathetic ARSEHOLE!
and there was I thinking he was an arseholes arsehole.
headers trimmed somewhat..
Julian Richards - 15 Dec 2005 07:45 GMT
>As is his penchant, Pogue Brannigan is posting gibberish again.
>
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>
>Appalling!
The actual truth of the event was that she was arrested because she
had refused on principle to clear her protest with police in advance.
A remarkable similar system to that used around the White House,
apparently.
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a.spencer3 - 15 Dec 2005 08:40 GMT
> As is his penchant, Pogue Brannigan is posting gibberish again.
>
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>
> Appalling!
Er ... check recent photos of the Iraq protester who has around 100 yards of
banners & posters right in front of the House.
Twit.
Surreyman
Michael W Cook - 24 Dec 2005 00:55 GMT
On 14/12/05 22:09, in article _L0of.1041$Dh6.3070@eagle.america.net, "D.
Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:
> As is his penchant, Pogue Brannigan is posting gibberish again.
>
> Of course demonstrators need permits.
So much for Free Speech if a protestor needs a permit before opening their
mouth.
Do they also get vetted on what their protest is about when they apply for
their permit ?
Then if their protest subect isn't on an official approved list they don't
get a permit ?
Adam Whyte-Settlar - 24 Dec 2005 10:01 GMT
> On 14/12/05 22:09, in article _L0of.1041$Dh6.3070@eagle.america.net, "D.
> Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Then if their protest subect isn't on an official approved list they don't
> get a permit ?
Jim Watt - 24 Dec 2005 11:53 GMT
>> > As is his penchant, Pogue Brannigan is posting gibberish again.
I resent that, please remove Spencer Whines from the headers
etc of all newsgroups.
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Martin - 24 Dec 2005 16:58 GMT
> On 14/12/05 22:09, in article _L0of.1041$Dh6.3070@eagle.america.net, "D.
> Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Then if their protest subect isn't on an official approved list they don't
> get a permit ?
In their dreams!
In Britain we need no 'permit' to protest, we do it. As Mrs T discovered to her
great cost, and Mr Blair dscovered to his considerable discomfort. We do these
things frightfully well I think?
Of course, no American should ever forget that it was protest against
unreasonable authority that won them their nation... or did they apply for
permits before the Boston Tea Party..... Spency?
Fred J. McCall - 30 Dec 2005 23:33 GMT
:On 14/12/05 22:09, in article _L0of.1041$Dh6.3070@eagle.america.net, "D.
:Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:
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:So much for Free Speech if a protestor needs a permit before opening their
:mouth.
They can 'open their mouth' all they want to. What they can't do is
stage a demonstration.
:Do they also get vetted on what their protest is about when they apply for
:their permit ?
Of course not. Don't be preposterous.
:Then if their protest subect isn't on an official approved list they don't
:get a permit ?
Again, you're merely being preposterous.
But then that's what we've come to expect from you, Cookie.

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Duck - 31 Dec 2005 16:39 GMT
> :On 14/12/05 22:09, in article _L0of.1041$Dh6.3070@eagle.america.net, "D.
> :Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> :Do they also get vetted on what their protest is about when they apply for
> :their permit ?
*In the UK you need a permit to walk on the road otherwise it's an illegal
protest.
Duck