History Forum / General / British History / December 2005

They were both hoooooooooooooorible movies ! ! ! ! !

On 12/29/05 9:49 PM, in article 9a2tf.306$pp3.1563@eagle.america.net, "D.
Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:

I started to post a reply last night but did not get around to finishing and
posting it until earlier this morning.  I had a more pressing matter to
attend to in the form of a football game in which I was interested.  Go
Sooners!

Grey Satterfield

Last night, when I prepared most of the post that is set out below, I was
also watching a football game.  Big mistake.  Because of my inattention I
inadvertently wrote "AI" when I meant  "Eyes Wide Shut," which was the
subject of my earlier debate with Spencer.  Spencer raised AI ("Artificial
Intelligence") although it has nothing to do with whether "Eyes Wide Shut"
was entirely Stanley Kubrick's work.  Spencer has probably already figured
this out from the context of my post but I won't hold by breath waiting for
him to admit it.

Grey Satterfield

On 12/29/05 7:21 PM, in article O10tf.295$pp3.1630@eagle.america.net, "D.
Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote:

Spencer's unconvincing riposte to my rather uncontroversial observation that
Stephen Spielberg completed Kubrick's AI was so windy that I have decided to
top-post this time.

It is generally acknowledged that the second half of AI was Spielberg's
film, not Kubrick's.  This was obvious to most critic.  See, for example:

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~lady/films/ai.html

Here is the money quote:  " . . . as so many critics have commented, the
second half turns into more of a Spielberg film."

Further, Kubrick died on 7 March 1999 but AI did not have its premiere until
more than four months later, on 13 July 1999.  That Spielberg decided not to
take any directorial credit for a film he viewed as Kubrick's valedictory is
not surprising.  Kubrick was Spielberg's mentor and had been married to to
his sister.  

Kubrick was dead long before AI was ready for release.  Thus, Spencer's
claim that AI was a Kubrick film in the same way as his earlier work, over
which he had retained absolute creative control, is simply naïve.  It's
really hard to make creative decisions if you are dead.

I am glad that Spencer thinks these exchanges are entertaining.  So do I.
As Sydney Greenstreet's Kasper Gutman said to Bogie's Sam Spade in "The
Maltese Falcon, "By Gad, sir, you are a character. There's never any telling
what you'll say or do next, except that it's bound to be something
astonishing."  Indeed!  :>)

Grey Satterfield

HILARIOUS!

What would you think of a lawyer who screwed the pooch on a brief he was presenting to a Court of Law because he wrote it while he was watching a football game.

Deeeelightful!

Virginia, it just doesn't get any better than this.

After offering up a lame excuse for his gaffe...[See Below]

Kasper Gutman is on the run -- heading for the tall grass with his tail between his legs -- whining.

DSH

"Grey Satterfield" <grey.satterfield@oscn.net> wrote in message news:BFDADA37.21A4C%grey.satterfield@oscn.net...
 > Last night, when I prepared most of the post that is set out below, I was
 > also watching a football game.  Big mistake....