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Sea Nemo | Queen of England

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Sea Nemo - 21 Apr 2006 19:38 GMT
Sea Nemo | Queen of England

Monarchy Celebrating Queens 80th Birthday
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1.asp

According to the official website of the British Monarchy dating back
over a thousand years, the monarchy has played an important role in the

United Kingdom and the commonwealth. the monarchs web site on the Queen

of England has information on modern society, art collections,
biographies, a history of kings and queens throughout the ages,
background on royal residences, and coverage of recent royal events.

If you would like to wish the Queen of England a Happy Birthday then
visit the monarchy website at
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page3776.asp

Happy 80th Birthday
Sea Nemo
Herb - 21 Apr 2006 21:56 GMT
you can also find the posting area for sending a note to the queen at
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/page4821.asp
allan connochie - 21 Apr 2006 23:13 GMT
> Sea Nemo | Queen of England
>
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> of England

Wouldn't it be best at least getting her title right? England and Scotland
exist as entities but the Kingdom of England hasn't existed for 299 years.
She's only the Queen of England in the same way that Bush is President of
Arkansas.

Allan
British Exile - 21 Apr 2006 23:23 GMT
you should send that information to the monarchy - the queen has a
different story...
allan connochie - 22 Apr 2006 00:21 GMT
> you should send that information to the monarchy - the queen has a
> different story...

On the contrary the monarchy only describes itslef as an English monarchy in
a historical sense just as they were of course also a Scottish monarchy. If
anything they go too much the other way. For instance on their website they
talk about the Kings of England and Kings of Scotland until 1603. They then
style it as the Kings of the United Kingdom. In fact at that point there was
no United Kingdom. Scotland and England simply shared a monarch. James VI &
I styled himself King of Great Britain but it was not official. Apart from
the Cromwellian interlude the two countries remained seperate Kingdoms until
the 1707 Union of Parliaments. Article one of the Act of Union states

"the two Kingdoms of England and Scotland shall upon the First day of May
which shall be in the year one thousand seven hundred and seven, and for
ever after, be united into one Kingdom by the name of Great Britain"

Hence as a kingdom England ceased to exist 299 years ago. Just because many
Americans who don't seem to know any better, and some English people who
certainly should know better, insist on saying Queen of England, it does not
make it her title. It is no more her title than Queen of Shropshire is!

Allan
Vaughan Sanders - 22 Apr 2006 17:09 GMT
>> you should send that information to the monarchy - the queen has a
>> different story...
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> Allan

What Royal Standard does she use in Shropshire, Alan :-))

Nothing is forever apparently :-))
http://www.freescotland.com/treaty.html
Out of the original 25 Articles of the Treaty, 9 have been wholly repealed
by Westminster, and 5 have been materially altered.

Jamie
allan connochie - 23 Apr 2006 23:01 GMT
> >> you should send that information to the monarchy - the queen has a
> >> different story...
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> What Royal Standard does she use in Shropshire, Alan :-))

You got me. I'll admit to being flippant but the point remains that the
Kingdoms of Scotland and England no longer exist as seperate kingdoms. They
are both constituent parts of a greater whole.

> Nothing is forever apparently :-))
> http://www.freescotland.com/treaty.html
> Out of the original 25 Articles of the Treaty, 9 have been wholly repealed
> by Westminster, and 5 have been materially altered.

Totally true of course but we are talking about the reality here and now.
There may well be in the future once again a Kingdom of England. Less likely
to be a permanent Scottish kingdom IMHO. If the country actually chose to go
independent I think the monarchy would go too.

Allan
> Jamie
 
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