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History Forum / General / British History / May 2006Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- The New Adolf Hitler
"Iran eyes badges for Jews" "Law would require non-Muslim insignia" Chris Wattie National Post Friday, May 19, 2006 "Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims. "This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis." ****** Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments." The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims. Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth. "There's no reason to believe they won't pass this," said Rabbi Hier. "It will certainly pass unless there's some sort of international outcry over this." Bernie Farber, the chief executive of the Canadian Jewish Congress, said he was "stunned" by the measure. "We thought this had gone the way of the dodo bird, but clearly in Iran everything old and bad is new again," he said. "It's state-sponsored religious discrimination." Damned Straight It Is. -- DSH Ali Behroozian, an Iranian exile living in Toronto, said the law could come into force as early as next year. It would make religious minorities immediately identifiable and allow Muslims to avoid contact with non-Muslims. Mr. Behroozian said it will make life even more difficult for Iran's small pockets of Jewish, Christian and other religious minorities -- the country is overwhelmingly Shi'ite Muslim. "They have all been persecuted for a while, but these new dress rules are going to make things worse for them," he said. The new law was drafted two years ago, but was stuck in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the behest of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. ****** A spokesman for the Iranian Embassy in Ottawa refused to comment on the measures. "This is nothing to do with anything here," said a press secretary who identified himself as Mr. Gharmani. "We are not here to answer such questions." Arrogant Bastard! -- DSH The Simon Wiesenthal Centre has written to Kofi Annan, the Secretary-General of the United Nations, protesting the Iranian law and calling on the international community to bring pressure on Iran to drop the measure. "The world should not ignore this," said Rabbi Hier. "The world ignored Hitler for many years -- he was dismissed as a demagogue, they said he'd never come to power -- and we were all wrong." Bingo! Good For Rabbi Hier, A Mensh. -- DSH Mr. Farber said Canada and other nations should take action to isolate Mr. Ahmadinejad in light of the new law, which he called "chilling," and his previous string of anti-Semitic statements. "There are some very frightening parallels here," he said. "It's time to start considering how we're going to deal with this person." Mr. Ahmadinejad has repeatedly described the Holocaust as a myth and earlier this year announced Iran would host a conference to re-examine the history of the Nazis' "Final Solution." He has caused international outrage by publicly calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map." Iran does not yet have nuclear weapons, but Tehran is believed by Western nations to be developing its own nuclear military capability, in defiance of international protocols and peace treaties. The United States, France and Israel accuse Iran of using a civilian nuclear program to secretly build a weapon. Iran denies this, saying its program is confined to generating electricity." ------------------------------------------------- DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor <snip> <snip> TROLL ALERT ----------------------- The above posting is a waste of space and bandwidth, you are requested to ignore it totally. if however you really MUST respond remove sci.military.naval from the headers. Do NOT feed the Trolls, one warning is enough, further messages only reinforce the desire for attention that provides motivation. > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > requested to ignore it totally. if however you really MUST respond > remove sci.military.naval from the headers. Why "must we remove" anything.? you certainlt felt no compunction about wasting bandwith and crossposting your reply to every group on the list. you are more annoying than dsh is. > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > requested to ignore it totally. if however you really MUST respond > remove sci.military.naval from the headers. Who died and left you in charge of Usenet, Jimmie? > Do NOT feed the Trolls, one warning is enough, further messages > only reinforce the desire for attention that provides motivation. This rampant pogue, Ahmadinejad, the New Hitler -- with his racist, Anti-Semitic, anserine, Mediaeval Ideas, needs to be put in his place. The United States Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Coast Guard are developing contingency plans to do just that to him -- if diplomatic options come a cropper. I know some of the Good Folks who are putting together those contingency plans. We shall, of course, be relying on our British allies to shoulder their fair share of the burden of bringing this ragamuffin charlatan Ahmadinejad to heel, if required -- or at least we shall be relying on the Real Brits among them. Tom Clancy should be able to gin up at least two or three superb thrillers about the War On Terror -- against Islamofascists like Ahmadinejad -- the New Hitler -- which has now become World War IV -- as the Cold War was World War III. 'Nuff Said. DSH --------------------------------------------------- "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:... > "Iran eyes badges for Jews" > [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > > Vires et Honor [snip] > We shall, of course, be relying on our British allies to shoulder their fair > share of the burden of bringing this ragamuffin charlatan Ahmadinejad to > heel, if required -- or at least we shall be relying on the Real Brits among > them. Once bitten twice shy. What is the post war plan? Andrew Swallow > This rampant pogue, Ahmadinejad, the New Hitler -- with his racist, > Anti-Semitic, anserine, Mediaeval Ideas, needs to be put in his place. > > The United States Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Coast Guard are > developing contingency plans to do just that to him -- if diplomatic options > come a cropper. we don't have the troops. a war with iran woyld require a draft, a ramping up of military production and the willigness to engage in a gureilla war that will make the mistake iraq look like a happy time. > I know some of the Good Folks who are putting together those contingency > plans. sure you do,uh huh , yup, righto, whatever you say. > We shall, of course, be relying on our British allies to shoulder their fair > share of the burden of bringing this ragamuffin charlatan Ahmadinejad to > heel, if required -- or at least we shall be relying on the Real Brits among > them. tony blair is soon to be gone. they won't get fooled again > Tom Clancy should be able to gin up at least two or three superb thrillers > about the War On Terror -- against Islamofascists like Ahmadinejad -- the > New Hitler -- which has now become World War IV -- as the Cold War was World > War III. tom clancy hasn't written a good book in years, teeth of the tiger flat out sucks. he's lost it biftime > 'Nuff Said. that's true , but you still won't shut up. > > This rampant pogue, Ahmadinejad, the New Hitler -- with his racist, > > Anti-Semitic, anserine, Mediaeval Ideas, needs to be put in his place. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > up of military production and the willigness to engage in a gureilla war > that will make the mistake iraq look like a happy time. Assuming troops are used, instead of an Osirak style air strike. Then again, diplomatic means with the proper tools behind them could do the trick. The people there don't necessarily like the fundies. > > I know some of the Good Folks who are putting together those contingency > > plans. > > sure you do,uh huh , yup, righto, whatever you say. I'm pretty sure that if folks were doing the planning they would be keeping it pretty close. > > We shall, of course, be relying on our British allies to shoulder their > fair [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > tony blair is soon to be gone. they won't get fooled again If I had a nickel for every time I have heard that one (and just from tv pundits) I'd be doing OK. Throw in usenet posters and I'd be in fat city. > > Tom Clancy should be able to gin up at least two or three superb thrillers > > about the War On Terror -- against Islamofascists like Ahmadinejad -- the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sucks. > he's lost it biftime If you read Clancy, the Mideast and Iran have figured into a couple of them. Haven't read his last two, Rainbow Six wasn't bad, but then in his books most of the "enemy" governments have gone away by now! After a while I guess he started running out! > > 'Nuff Said. > > that's true , but you still won't shut up. . > > we don't have the troops. a war with iran woyld require a draft, a ramping > > up of military production and the willigness to engage in a gureilla war [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > again, diplomatic means with the proper tools behind them could do the > trick. The people there don't necessarily like the fundies. the iranians learned from that strike. they have built underground reinforced concrete facilities. an ait attack won't do any damage. > > > I know some of the Good Folks who are putting together those contingency > > > plans. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm pretty sure that if folks were doing the planning they would be > keeping it pretty close. they certainly wouldn't be sharing them with DSH. > > > We shall, of course, be relying on our British allies to shoulder their > > fair [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > tv pundits) I'd be doing OK. Throw in usenet posters and I'd be in fat > city. blair himself has said he won't run again. england will not follow us into another war . > > > Tom Clancy should be able to gin up at least two or three superb thrillers > > > about the War On Terror -- against Islamofascists like Ahmadinejad -- the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > If you read Clancy, the Mideast and Iran have figured into a couple of > them. i've read plenty of clancy. i used to wait in anticipation for each new one. > Haven't read his last two, Rainbow Six wasn't bad, but then in his > books most of the "enemy" governments have gone away by now! After a > while I guess he started running out! he has lost it. his carachters are one dimensional. his good guys are all charactures. good righting christiasn conservatives who are so unrealistic as to be farcial. his writing has sunk to the level of heinlein > > > 'Nuff Said. > > > > that's true , but you still won't shut up. > "Iran eyes badges for Jews" > > "Law would require non-Muslim insignia" This isn't really a new innovation in the Islamic world. The Talibananas had something like that in the works before they were turfed out and I gather the practice originated some 400 or so years ago in Muslim world. I wonder what "Standard Islamic Clothing" is? IBM Good Points... DSH >> "Iran eyes badges for Jews" >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > IBM > "Iran eyes badges for Jews" What about limiting it to Neocons? Did the National Post get it wrong? We shall see... DSH ---------------------------------------- "Harper says Iran 'capable' of introducing Nazi-like clothing labels" Fri May 19, 06:51 PM EST By Alexander Panetta "OTTAWA (CP) - Prime Minister Stephen Harper was quick to condemn Iran on Friday for an anti-Semitic law that appears not to exist. Harper seized on a newspaper report that said Iran's hardline government would require Jews and Christians to wear coloured labels in public. The prime minister couldn't vouch for the accuracy of the newspaper report, but he added that Iran was capable of such actions and compared them to Nazi practices. "Unfortunately, we've seen enough already from the Iranian regime to suggest that it is very capable of this kind of action," Harper said. "We've seen a number of things from the Iranian regime that are along these lines . . . "It boggles the mind that any regime on the face of the Earth would want to do anything that could remind people of Nazi Germany." But western journalists based in Iran told their Canadian colleagues that they were unaware of any such law. And Iranian politicians - including a Jewish legislator in Tehran - were infuriated by the Post report, which they called false. Politician Morris Motamed, one of about 25,000 Jews who live in Iran, called the report a slap in the face to his minority community. "Such a plan has never been proposed or discussed in parliament," Motamed told the Associated Press. "Such news, which appeared abroad, is an insult to religious minorities here." Another Iranian legislator said the newspaper has distorted a bill that he presented to parliament, which calls for more conservative clothing for Muslims. "It's a sheer lie. The rumours about this are worthless," Emad Afroogh said. Afroogh's bill seeks to make women dress more traditionally and avoid Western fashions. Minority religious labels have nothing to do with it, he said. "The bill is not related to minorities. It is only about clothing," he said. "Please tell them (the West) to check the details of the bill. There is no mention of religious minorities and their clothing in the bill." The Associated Press reported from Tehran that the draft law, which has received preliminary approval, would discourage women from wearing Western clothing, increase taxes on imported clothes and fund an advertising campaign to encourage citizens to wear Islamic-style garments. According to existing law, women must cover from head to toe, but many young women, buoyed by social freedoms granted to them during the 1997-2005 rule of former President Mohammad Khatami, ignore the law. The Post's front-page story, which quoted Iranian expatriates living in Canada, made headlines around the world and was the banner story on the popular Drudge Report website in the U.S. The story said Iran would require Jews to wear yellow labels on their clothing in an eerie reminder of the buildup to the Holocaust. Adolf Hitler forced Jews to identify themselves with yellow Star of David patches. Christians would need to wear red labels, and Zoroastrians would be tagged with blue. The law was still to be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide," Ali Khamenehi, the Post reported. Calls to the Post newsroom for comment on the developments around the story were not immediately returned. Harper called the report a reminder that the international community must prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons. He made the remarks during a news conference in Gatineau, Que., with the visiting Australian Prime Minister John Howard. Both men provided lengthy answers to a question about the report. Harper said he had seen the story and wasn't sure if it was true, before launching into his criticism of the Iranian government. Howard said he hadn't seen the report. In answering the question, he sprinkled qualifiers into nearly every sentence to underscore uncertainty about the accuracy of the report. "I haven't previously heard of that," Howard said. "If that is true I would find that totally repugnant. It obviously echoes the most horrible period of genocide in the world's history - the marking of Jewish people with a mark on their clothing by the Nazis." Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has previously described the Holocaust as a myth and has called for the destruction of the state of Israel. Non-Muslims in Afghanistan were required to wear arm bands under the former Taliban regime. The practice is a throwback to centuries-old rules imposed on non-Muslims living in Islamic states. Under Dhimmi law, non-Muslims were guaranteed security in exchange for paying a tax and wearing special labels on their clothing. The U.S. government reacted with caution Friday. The State Department said any such measure would be "despicable" and carry "clear echoes of Germany under Hitler." U.S. government statistics indicate that 98 per cent of Iranians are Islamic. Other faiths are Zoroastrian, Jewish, Christian, and Baha'i. Department spokesman Sean McCormack said he could not comment further because the precise nature of the proposal is unclear. "I don't have all the facts," he said." ------------------------------------------------- DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas In article <1148177776.512791.254800@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, on 20 May 2006 19:16:16 -0700, Ken Wood ken_wood56@yahoo.com attempted to say ..... > > "Iran eyes badges for Jews" > > What about limiting it to Neocons? Not surprised you side with Fascists...  SignatureWhen dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. > In article <1148177776.512791.254800@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > on 20 May 2006 19:16:16 -0700, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in > variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. No comment http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=6626a0fa-99de-4f1e-aebe-bb 91af82abb3 Experts say report of badges for Jews in Iran is untrue Chris Wattie National Post Friday, May 19, 2006 Several experts are casting doubt on reports that Iran had passed a law requiring the country's Jews and other religious minorities to wear coloured badges identifying them as non-Muslims. The Iranian embassy in Otttawa also denied the Iranian government had passed such a law. A news story and column by Iranian-born analyst Amir Taheri in yesterday's National Post reported that the Iranian parliament had passed a sweeping new law this week outlining proper dress for Iran's majority Muslims, including an order for Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians to wear special strips of cloth. According to the reports, Jews were to wear yellow cloth strips, called zonnar, while Christians were to wear red and Zoroastrians blue. The Simon Wiesenthal Centre and Iranian expatriates living in Canada had confirmed that the order had been passed, although it still had to be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect. Hormoz Ghahremani, a spokesman for the Iranian Embassy in Ottawa, said in an e-mail to the Post yesterday that, "We wish to categorically reject the news item. "These kinds of slanderous accusations are part of a smear campaign against Iran by vested interests, which needs to be denounced at every step." Sam Kermanian, of the U.S.-based Iranian-American Jewish Federation, said in an interview from Los Angeles that he had contacted members of the Jewish community in Iran - including the lone Jewish member of the Iranian parliament - and they denied any such measure was in place. Mr. Kermanian said the subject of "what to do with religious minorities" came up during debates leading up to the passing of the dress code law. "It is possible that some ideas might have been thrown around," he said. "But to the best of my knowledge the final version of the law does not demand any identifying marks by the religious minority groups." Ali Reza Nourizadeh, an Iranian commentator on political affairs in London, suggested that the requirements for badges or insignia for religious minorities was part of a "secondary motion" introduced in parliament, addressing the changes specific to the attire of people of various religious backgrounds. Mr. Nourizadeh said that motion was very minor and was far from being passed into law. That account could not be confirmed. Meir Javdanfar, an Israeli expert on Iran and the Middle East who was born and raised in Tehran, said yesterday that he was unable to find any evidence that such a law had been passed. "None of my sources in Iran have heard of this," he said. "I don't know where this comes from." Mr. Javdanfar said that not all clauses of the law had been passed through the parliament and said the requirement that Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians wear special insignia might be part of an older version of the Islamic dress law, which was first written two years ago. "In any case, there is no way that they could have forced Iranian Jews to wear this," he added. "The Iranian people would never stand for it." However, Mr. Kermanian added that Jews in Iran still face widespread, systematic discrimination. "For example if they sell food they have to identify themselves and their shops as non-Muslim," he said. Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre in Los Angeles, acknowledged that he did not have independent confirmation of the requirement for Jews to wear badges, but said he still believes it was passed. "We know that the national uniform law was passed and that certain colours were selected for Jews and other minorities," he said. "[But] if the Iranian government is going to pass such a law then they are not likely to be forthcoming about what they are doing." Stephen Harper, the Prime Minister, said yesterday that Iran is "very capable" of enacting such a law but could not confirm reports that members of religious minorities must wear identifiable markers on their clothing. "Unfortunately we've seen enough already from the Iranian regime to suggest that it is very capable of this kind of action," Mr. Harper said. "It boggles the mind that any regime on the face of the earth would want to do anything that would remind people of Nazi Germany." > Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth. They should go back to Zoroastrianism. Its a better religion. "Iran is just a few months away from acquiring the technological know-how that will allow it to build an atomic bomb, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in an interview broadcast Sunday." ---------------------------------------------------------------- Just how close are they? That remains one of the most important open issues. Whatever, Iran's Islamofascists simply cannot be allowed to develop a nuclear weapon. Stay Tuned... DSH --------------------------------------- "Olmert: Iran Close to Atomic Bomb Know-How" May 21, 2006 By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI Associated Press Writer JERUSALEM "Iran is just a few months away from acquiring the technological know- how that will allow it to build an atomic bomb, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in an interview broadcast Sunday." Olmert flew to Washington on Sunday for his first meeting as prime minister with President Bush. The two leaders are expected to discuss Iran's nuclear ambitions. Olmert told CNN's "Late Edition" that the key issue regarding Iran was not when it builds a nuclear bomb, but rather when it acquires the knowledge they need to manufacture such arms. "This technological threshold is nearer than we anticipated before. This is because they are already engaged very seriously in enrichment," Olmert said. "The technological threshold is very close. It can be measured in months rather than years," Olmert added, repeating statements previously made by other senior Israeli officials. Olmert said the world could not take Iran's nuclear ambitions lightly because Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has repeatedly called for Israel's destruction. However, he said it was unlikely Israel would act on its own, diplomatically or militarily, to deal with the problem. In 1981, Israel's air force attacked the Iraqi nuclear reactor at Osirak, destroying the facility. But Olmert said the situations cannot be compared, and Israel will try to persuade the Western world to impose sanctions on Iran. Iran has so far rejected European proposals to back off the idea of U.N.-imposed sanctions if Tehran agrees to freeze its uranium enrichment program. Another proposal the Europeans are preparing will apparently include a clause saying that if Iran refuses, it could face sanctions backed by the threat of force. Iran, which insists its nuclear program is for peaceful, civilian purposes, says it has the right to enrich uranium. Olmert expressed confidence that Bush would "lead other nations in taking the necessary measures to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear power." "We will certainly try to convince other countries that, at this time, before they cross the technological threshold, that the measures will be taken to stop them," Olmert said." ---------------------------------------------- DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor Sholem Aleichem |
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