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The new Zarkawi

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hippo - 22 Jun 2006 14:35 GMT
If the killing of Zarkawi was a set-up from inside the Al Qaida
organization, as some have suggested, his replacement, Abu Ayyub Al-Masri,
appears to be little different in theology or mindset. Like Zarkawi, he
appears to be intolerant of the Shi'ia sect, and intent on attacking it and
moderate Muslims with little sympathy for innocent Iraqis killed in the
process, with the result that he is likely to have as many enemies as his
former leader. -the Troll

http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2370037
William Black - 22 Jun 2006 15:23 GMT
> If the killing of Zarkawi was a set-up from inside the Al Qaida
> organization, as some have suggested, his replacement, Abu Ayyub Al-Masri,
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> process, with the result that he is likely to have as many enemies as his
> former leader.

There's also the possibility that he doesn't actually exist.

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hippo - 22 Jun 2006 16:01 GMT
"William Black" wrote in message

> "hippo" wrote in message

>> If the killing of Zarkawi was a set-up from inside the Al Qaida
>> organization, as some have suggested, his replacement, Abu Ayyub
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>
> There's also the possibility that he doesn't actually exist.

Almost anything in this world is possible.

As a purely practical matter, publicly assigning (through Al Jezeera) a
vital leadership position, and attributing the recent 'victory' over two US
soldiers, to a non-existent person seems of doubtful propaganda value to Al
Qaida. -the Troll
Paul J Gans - 22 Jun 2006 18:20 GMT
>If the killing of Zarkawi was a set-up from inside the Al Qaida
>organization, as some have suggested, his replacement, Abu Ayyub Al-Masri,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>process, with the result that he is likely to have as many enemies as his
>former leader. -the Troll

>http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2370037

I agree, but with one exception.  Bin Laden's aim has always been
to bring the Shi'a under domination.  He's a radical Sunni.  And
his main goal is religious reformation in the Middle East, particularly
Saudi Arabia.  So yes, moderates and Shi'a get attacked.

Thus bin Laden's new man will mirror that.

The problem with al Zarkawi was the way he treated the people in
his own organization.  I think *that* is what got him "offed"
in the end.

We can hope that al Zarkawi's organization has been weakend by
all this.  They are likely all looking for leakers.  If so, we
will be better off for it.

  ---- Paul J. Gans
hippo - 22 Jun 2006 23:13 GMT
"Paul J Gans" wrote in message

>>If the killing of Zarkawi was a set-up from inside the Al Qaida
>>organization, as some have suggested, his replacement, Abu Ayyub Al-Masri,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> all this.  They are likely all looking for leakers.  If so, we
> will be better off for it.

Maybe you're right, but I still think he was ticking off the big boss. -the
Troll
Paul J Gans - 24 Jun 2006 04:00 GMT
>"Paul J Gans" wrote in message

>>>If the killing of Zarkawi was a set-up from inside the Al Qaida
>>>organization, as some have suggested, his replacement, Abu Ayyub Al-Masri,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> all this.  They are likely all looking for leakers.  If so, we
>> will be better off for it.

>Maybe you're right, but I still think he was ticking off the big boss. -the
>Troll

I'd not be surprised if that is true too.  I think he didn't
like how Zarkawi treated folks who are, in spite of everything,
difficult to recruit.  You don't find suicide bombers standing
around on street corners waiting for repeat employment...

   ---- Paul J. Gans
hippo - 24 Jun 2006 16:19 GMT
"Paul J Gans" wrote in message

>>> We can hope that al Zarkawi's organization has been weakend by
>>> all this.  They are likely all looking for leakers.  If so, we
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> difficult to recruit.  You don't find suicide bombers standing
> around on street corners waiting for repeat employment...

Chuckle, that's true. Folks who found organizations are bound to be
proprietary about it. Having Zarkawi refuse to take suggestions, or share
resources, must have been irksome, especially because Bin Laden must have
felt Zarkawi was ruining the cause, and his life's work, with his excesses.

Reports from the field have foreign fighters streaming towards the Syrian
border as we go after Ramadi. We also just took out their number five man
and some of his group. We're learning from the Israelis. -the Troll
 
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