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Living WW I vets?

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Rod Keys - 18 Nov 2003 15:58 GMT
When I was a kid in the 50's everybody's dad was a WW II vet and everybody's
grand-dad was a WW I vet.  On Veterans Day (Armistace day to you old-timers)
here in the US, there was always a parade.  Plenty of WW I vets led the
parade, WW II vets would dust off their old uniforms and march in droves
too.  There would be a dozen or so Spanish American War vets and even an
American Civil War vet riding in a jeep.

Not long ago we lost the last WW I vet of my actual aquintance.  He was a
friend's grandfather aged 104 years and was an intellegent and a pleasure to
visit to the last.

Which made me think.  How many WW I vets are left?  The ranks must be
thinning.  Does anybody keep track?  Is there anyplace to look into the
question?
a.spencer3 - 18 Nov 2003 16:16 GMT
> When I was a kid in the 50's everybody's dad was a WW II vet and everybody's
> grand-dad was a WW I vet.  On Veterans Day (Armistace day to you old-timers)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> thinning.  Does anybody keep track?  Is there anyplace to look into the
> question?

Apparently 1 in Oz, 6(?) in UK, 44 in USA.

Surreyman
Andrew Chaplin - 23 Nov 2003 19:25 GMT
> > When I was a kid in the 50's everybody's dad was a WW II vet and
> everybody's
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> >
> Apparently 1 in Oz, 6(?) in UK, 44 in USA.

On 11 November there were 10 Canadian veterans of the Great War still
alive. Cyril Martin, who joined underage and later served as a padre
in the Second War, died last week.
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20031122/MARTIN22//?
query=veterans


I wonder if two of the 44 veterans listed as being in the U.S. are
from Canada. One codger confuses the issue since he served in the
C.E.F. in the First War, in the U.S.N. in the Second, and still lives
in California.
http://thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1
&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1068246607778

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Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
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Paul J Gans - 18 Nov 2003 22:15 GMT
>When I was a kid in the 50's everybody's dad was a WW II vet and everybody's
>grand-dad was a WW I vet.  On Veterans Day (Armistace day to you old-timers)
>here in the US, there was always a parade.  Plenty of WW I vets led the
>parade, WW II vets would dust off their old uniforms and march in droves
>too.  There would be a dozen or so Spanish American War vets and even an
>American Civil War vet riding in a jeep.

>Not long ago we lost the last WW I vet of my actual aquintance.  He was a
>friend's grandfather aged 104 years and was an intellegent and a pleasure to
>visit to the last.

>Which made me think.  How many WW I vets are left?  The ranks must be
>thinning.  Does anybody keep track?  Is there anyplace to look into the
>question?

Thinning?  Anyone who was 15 in 1914 is 104 now.  

I'd worry about WWII.  Those who were 15 in 1939 are 79 now.

  ---- Paul J. Gans
hippo - 19 Nov 2003 04:59 GMT
"Paul J Gans"  wrote in message

> >When I was a kid in the 50's everybody's dad was a WW II vet and everybody's
> >grand-dad was a WW I vet.  On Veterans Day (Armistace day to you old-timers)
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> I'd worry about WWII.  Those who were 15 in 1939 are 79 now.

The WWII vets are dying at a rate of something like 1000 every day. The
folks at Arlington are overworked and rapidly running out of space. -the
Troll
a.spencer3 - 19 Nov 2003 08:20 GMT
> > The WWII vets are dying at a rate of something like 1000 every day. The
> folks at Arlington are overworked and rapidly running out of space. -the
> Troll

What exactly is the status of Arlington? Can any ex-serviceman (active or
not) elect to be buried there? I always thought it was for 'notables' only.

Surreyman
hippo - 20 Nov 2003 01:04 GMT
"a.spencer3" wrote in message

> hippo wrote in message

> > > The WWII vets are dying at a rate of something like 1000 every day. The
> > folks at Arlington are overworked and rapidly running out of space. -the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Surreyman

Nope, any veteran can be buried there, officer or OR. It is intended for
soldiers only. For a time wives and surviving children could be interred
with their serving relation but no longer. The restriction these days is
space and time. If the veteran wants full military honors and inhumation
he/she can wait for many months. We had less of a wait since LTC Buehring
was killed in the line of duty in a war zone and because of 'interest'
expressed by the Chiefs of Staff. Wolfowitz was in fact there for the better
part of an hour with nothing between him and me but three feet of grass
(unless one counts a secret service fellow behind a tree with wires hanging
out of his ears). In time there will only be space for cremations unless
Fort Meyer which surrounds it on three sides is broken up to make more
space. Many veterans choose not to be buried there because they prefer the
idea of a family plot. -the Troll
 
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