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History Forum / General / British History / October 2006Polls, Politics & Poltroons
"mrbill" <hmcs_kenogami@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1162048310.278410.163600@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > The bottom line is that Chretien dithered, checked the polls, and > ultimately decided to please his voter base. You will recall his > Cat-in-the-Hat "A proof is a proof..." speech. He had no idea what he > was going to do until the polls were in. There was no principle > involved in his decision but then there hasn't been a principled > decision by a Liberal government in Canada or Ontario within recent > memory. Check the polls first, decide accordingly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bingo! Our Bill Clinton was just like your former Canadian Prime Minister, Jean Chrétien -- never willing to take a stand, unless the polls justified it -- thereby ignoring many developing threats -- including Usama Bin Laden. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Chr%C3%A9tien Both Clinton and Chrétien FOLLOWED the People -- rather than LEADING them. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Veritas Vos Liberabit >> The bottom line is that Chretien dithered, checked the polls, and >> ultimately decided to please his voter base. You will recall his [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Both Clinton and Chrétien FOLLOWED the People -- rather than LEADING them. Now that's just plain idiocy. Whatever you say about Jean, he had balls of steel. Do you think it's easy to break politicians' habit of bribing people with their childrens' money, and the people's habit of accepting the bribes? I know a country where the politicos are so weak that they use imagined foreign hazards to keep the people in line. In fact those spineless dweebs are so terrified that they're eroding the constitutional freedoms that are the basis of their nation's strength because they fear honest disagreement. They can't even face up to the commercial interests that cannot survive without them but cower and spend at their direction. Hell their great leader is too weak to do or insist on reasonable research and planning, to the nation's great cost. When you're talking about weak leaders keep Poutine well below the Shrub on your list. Peter Skelton > Now that's just plain idiocy. Whatever you say about Jean, he had > balls of steel. He was a coward and a moron. Those that still defend him now aren't any better. >> Now that's just plain idiocy. Whatever you say about Jean, he had >> balls of steel. > > He was a coward and a moron. Those that still defend him now aren't any > better. He certainly is no coward. He is no more a moron than George Bush is a moron.  SignatureAndrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.) >>> Now that's just plain idiocy. Whatever you say about Jean, he had >>> balls of steel. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >He certainly is no coward. He is no more a moron than George Bush is a moron. How people think that cowards and morons can rise to high office in a modern democracy is beyond me. Peter Skelton >> Now that's just plain idiocy. Whatever you say about Jean, he had >> balls of steel. > > He was a coward and a moron. Those that still defend him now aren't any > better. Jean a coward? How many other PMs grab protesters by the neck and beat the crap out of them in front of TV cameras.... ...or take on intruders using their wife and an inuit statue as a defence tool.... >> Now that's just plain idiocy. Whatever you say about Jean, he had >> balls of steel. > >He was a coward and a moron. Those that still defend him now aren't any >better. And you're so confident of your analysis that you did not respond to my rarional for the statement. His courage, personal and political are beyond question, His intelligence is also beyond question. As for my intelligence and courage, well they're better than some and worse than others, I suppose. Peter Skelton |
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