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Iraqi Insurgents Use 2nd 'Dirty' Bomb -- In WMD Chemical Attack

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D. Spencer Hines - 22 Feb 2007 03:45 GMT
Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President Bush
has grossly exaggerated the dangers of Weapons of Mass Destruction [WMD] and
the use of any such weapons in the hands of Al  Q'aeda and other terrorist
groups against U.S. interests is nothing to get too alarmed about.

DSH
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Iraqi Insurgents Use 2nd 'Dirty' Bomb

Feb 21, 8:17 PM (ET)

By BRIAN MURPHY

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Insurgents exploded a truck carrying chlorine gas
canisters Wednesday - the second such "dirty" chemical attack in two days -
while a U.S. official said ground fire apparently forced the downing of a
Black Hawk helicopter. All nine aboard the aircraft were rescued.

The attacks offer a sweeping narrative on evolving tactics by Sunni
insurgents who have proved remarkably adaptable.

Military officials worry extremists may have recently gained more
access to firepower such as shoulder-fired anti-aircraft rockets and heavy
machine guns - and more expertise to use them. The Black Hawk would be at
least the eighth U.S. helicopter to crash or be taken down by hostile fire
in the past month.

The gas cloud in Baghdad, meanwhile, suggests possible new and
coordinated strategies by bombers trying to unleash toxic - and potentially
deadly - materials. "Terrorists are using dirty means," said Brig. Gen.
Qassim Moussawi, an Iraqi military spokesman....

In Baghdad, a pickup truck carrying chlorine gas cylinders was blown
apart, killing at least five people and sending more than 55 to hospitals
gasping for breath and rubbing stinging eyes, police said.

On Tuesday, a bomb planted on a chlorine tanker left more than 150
villagers stricken north of the capital. More than 60 were still under
medical care on Wednesday. Chlorine causes respiratory trouble and skin
irritation in low levels and possible death with heavy exposure.

In Washington, two Pentagon officials said the tactic has been used at
least three times since Jan. 28, when a truck carrying explosives and a
chlorine tank blew up in Anbar province. More than a dozen people were
reported killed.

A third Pentagon official said the United States has been concerned
about Iraqi militants' ability to get weapons like chlorine bombs and use
them effectively. But the official cautioned that chlorine bombs are just
one threat on a long list of possible attacks that Iraqi fighters may try to
carry out.

It was unclear whether the confluence of new insurgent tactics -
attacking isolated combat posts, targeting helicopters more intensely and
using chlorine bombs - was coincidental or in response to the U.S. troop
increase.

W. Patrick Lang, a former official at the Defense Intelligence Agency,
said the insurgents are always "seeking to achieve higher levels of
effectiveness" and these new tactics are part of the normal "evolution of
sophistication."

Lang said trucks filled with chlorine gas are "really quite deadly"
because the gas is potent and spreads easily.

Some authorities believe militants could be trying to maximize the
panic from their attacks by adding chlorine or other noxious substances.

"It is an indication of maliciousness, a desire to injure and kill innocent
people in the vicinity," said [Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, a U.S. military
spokesman], who also predicted militants may begin to launch similar attacks
because of the widespread mayhem caused
by this week's chlorine clouds.

"If there is a particular success, we'll see copycats. ... They
certainly pay attention to what they think is successful," he said.
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DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Ray O'Hara - 22 Feb 2007 04:57 GMT
> Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President Bush
> has grossly exaggerated the dangers of Weapons of Mass Destruction [WMD] and
> the use of any such weapons in the hands of Al  Q'aeda and other terrorist
> groups against U.S. interests is nothing to get too alarmed about.
>
> DSH

exagerated the dangers? nobody claimed that.
but did saddam have any? did he have any that could be deployed in 45
minutes? no saddam didn't. did saddam set ny off to save himself? no.

is hinequaters a pogue of the highest order who can't tell or even discern
the truth , yes.
Ian MacLure - 23 Feb 2007 06:25 GMT
>> Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President
> Bush
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>
>> DSH

>  exagerated the dangers? nobody claimed that.

       Liar. Every second word from you spittle flecked panic merchants
       was some variant on "Bush lied".

> but did saddam have any? did he have any that could be deployed in 45
> minutes? no saddam didn't. did saddam set ny off to save himself? no.

       Isn't hindsight wonderful especially when coupled with selective
       memory.

> is hinequaters a pogue of the highest order who can't tell or even discern
> the truth , yes.

       You wouldn't know the truth if it leaped out of your soup bowl
       and beat you about the head and ears with the spoon.

       IBM
Adam Whyte-Settlar - 23 Feb 2007 06:29 GMT
>>> Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President
>> Bush
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>    Liar. Every second word from you spittle flecked panic merchants
>    was some variant on "Bush lied".

He did. As did all his handlers. Get over it.

>> but did saddam have any? did he have any that could be deployed in 45
>> minutes? no saddam didn't. did saddam set ny off to save himself? no.
>
>    Isn't hindsight wonderful especially when coupled with selective
>    memory.

Might be so, but everyone and his dog predicted that Saddam had no WMD -
including the inspectors that Bush removed.
So you can **** off with your 'hindsight' lies and your very selective
memory.
Ian MacLure - 24 Feb 2007 05:30 GMT
       [snip]

> Might be so, but everyone and his dog predicted that Saddam had no WMD -
> including the inspectors that Bush removed.
> So you can **** off with your 'hindsight' lies and your very selective
> memory.

       Ahh yes, the despicable Whyte-Settlar!
       Figures you'd be suffering from end stage ABDS.
       And in the spirit in which your advice was offered
       I intone:

              Go thou and do likewise...

       IBM
a.spencer3 - 22 Feb 2007 11:21 GMT
> Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President Bush
> has grossly exaggerated the dangers of Weapons of Mass Destruction [WMD] and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> DSH
> ------------------------------------------------------------

> Iraqi Insurgents Use 2nd 'Dirty' Bomb
>
[quoted text clipped - 70 lines]
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Oh Gawd.

/1/ It's now several years later. If the insurgents, some time, produced a
nuclear bomb, maybe courtesy of Iran, that wouldn't retrospectively
whitewash the invasion.

/2/ Chlorine is hardly anWMD, and hardly any worse than the gas weapons we
all knew he already had had, and had used.

You're getting pretty deperate, Hines, aren't you?

Twit!

Surreyman
Adam Whyte-Settlar - 22 Feb 2007 14:59 GMT
> /2/ Chlorine is hardly anWMD, and hardly any worse than the gas weapons we
> all knew he already had had, and had used.
>
> You're getting pretty deperate, Hines, aren't you?

He's been desperate for years.
Is he *really* trying to infer that a pick-up full of gas cylinders is a
WMD?!

: ))
"Hilarious"
Westprog - 26 Feb 2007 17:04 GMT
...

> /2/ Chlorine is hardly anWMD, and hardly any worse than the gas weapons we
> all knew he already had had, and had used.

Chlorine is a standard part of water treatment.

--

J/

SOTW: "Love Will Tear Us Apart" - Joy Division

http://www.azcars.eu/wdfdi/index.htm
Andrew Swallow - 22 Feb 2007 16:28 GMT
[snip]

> W. Patrick Lang, a former official at the Defense Intelligence Agency,
> said the insurgents are always "seeking to achieve higher levels of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Lang said trucks filled with chlorine gas are "really quite deadly"
> because the gas is potent and spreads easily.

1915  "The first killing agent employed by the German military was
Chlorine."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_gas_in_World_War_I>

Bush may not have found the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction but
it looks like the insurgency has made some more.

Andrew Swallow
Paul J. Adam - 22 Feb 2007 22:20 GMT
>1915  "The first killing agent employed by the German military was
>Chlorine."
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_gas_in_World_War_I>
>
>Bush may not have found the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction but
>it looks like the insurgency has made some more.

More than a decade ago, one point of concern in the Former Republics of
Yugoslavia was that some yahoo might decide to conduct chemical warfare:
because there was plenty of chlorine to be had at assorted water
purification plants and chemical works, and other more dangerous toxic
industrial chemicals besides.

This isn't new: being able to get hold of chlorine merely proves you
live in a country with aspirations to supply potable water and a
1900s-vintage chemical engineering capability.

Signature

The nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its
warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done
by fools.
                                                           -Thucydides

Paul J. Adam - mainbox{at}jrwlynch[dot]demon(dot)co<dot>uk

J Antero - 23 Feb 2007 02:41 GMT
> Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President
> Bush has grossly exaggerated the dangers of Weapons of Mass Destruction
> [WMD] and the use of any such weapons in the hands of Al  Q'aeda and other
> terrorist groups against U.S. interests is nothing to get too alarmed
> about.

All swimming pool owners should have their communications closely monitored
....
Adam Whyte-Settlar - 23 Feb 2007 04:33 GMT
>> Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President
>> Bush has grossly exaggerated the dangers of Weapons of Mass Destruction
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> All swimming pool owners should have their communications closely
> monitored

That's not enough. All pools must be filled in immediately.
Anyone who objects is obviously an Al Queada sympathiser.
kevinmccabe@yahoo.com - 23 Feb 2007 04:53 GMT
On Feb 22, 8:33 pm, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawill...@westnet.com.au>
wrote:

> >> Yet we still have ignorant, often arrogant, pogues who insist President
> >> Bush has grossly exaggerated the dangers of Weapons of Mass Destruction
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> That's not enough. All pools must be filled in immediately.
> Anyone who objects is obviously an Al Queada sympathiser.

The contractors who poured said pools should be subject to summary
execution without recourse to any Court of the United States.

McCabe
D. Spencer Hines - 24 Feb 2007 05:06 GMT
All sorts of simple chemicals, including chlorine gas, can be used as
Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Anyone who doesn't believe that should do some reading up on Timothy
McVeigh.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
D. Spencer Hines - 24 Feb 2007 19:17 GMT
All sorts of chemicals, biologicals and objects can be employed as WMD's --  
including airliners, chlorine gas, other poisonous gases, poisons and
contaminants in our water, food, drink and air supplies.

Pogues who are still wussing, "What, me worry?" -- need to get cracking and
take the sludge out of their ears and the blinders off.

We are fighting a long-term war against Global Jihadist Islamofascist
Terrorists and there will be many bumps in the road, setbacks and
disappointments along the way.  World War IV.

World War III, the Cold War, lasted from 1917 until about 1991, when it
petered out.  That's 74 years -- with an Alliance of Convenience from 1941
to 1945.

There are no guarantees that World War IV will be any shorter or easier.

Pogues should accept Reality and get used to it....

NOT Live In Denial -- as do Pogue Gans and Pogue Surreyman...

Who Are MOST Amusing.

Funky Fossils.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
D. Spencer Hines - 25 Feb 2007 04:18 GMT
All sorts of simple chemicals, including chlorine gas, can be used as
Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Anyone who doesn't believe that should do some reading up on Timothy
McVeigh.

Avgas can also be used as a WMD -- e.g., in an airliner.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
D. Spencer Hines - 25 Feb 2007 07:57 GMT
All sorts of chemicals, biologicals and objects can be employed as WMD's --
including airliners, chlorine gas, other poisonous gases, poisons and
contaminants in our water, food, drink and air supplies -- such as E. coli
in our food at Taco Bell or the grocery.

Terrorists can run tests on these too -- then make a Maximum Effort.

What if they managed to poison everyone in the White House or Pentagon --
through the water system?

Pogues who are still wussing, "What, me worry?" -- need to get cracking and
take the sludge out of their ears and the blinders off.

We are fighting a long-term war against Global Jihadist Islamofascist
Terrorists and there will be many bumps in the road, setbacks and
disappointments along the way.  World War IV.

World War III, the Cold War, lasted from 1917 until about 1991, when it
petered out.  That's 74 years -- with an Alliance of Convenience from 1941
to 1945.

There are no guarantees that World War IV will be any shorter or easier.

It could turn out to last longer than the Cold War.

We need Stalwarts -- not Whiners, Coulda-Shoulda-Would'ers and Wusses.

Pogues should accept Reality and get used to it...

NOT Live In Denial -- as do Pogue Gans and Pogue Surreyman...

Who Are MOST Amusing...

Funky Fossils.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
 
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