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D. Spencer Hines - 23 Feb 2007 21:18 GMT Yes...
Another Good One.
I've often seen Fuji that way -- from my garden -- looming up over the landscape.
DSH
"Bryn" <Scotland-the-Brave@finhall.GREMLINSdemon.co.uk> wrote in message news:njQl0sBm3z3FFwA1@finhall.demon.co.uk...
> Spring--through > morning mist, > what mountain's there? > > Bashõ > > (This is Bashõ doing irony) Jack Linthicum - 23 Feb 2007 22:10 GMT On Feb 23, 4:18 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yes... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > (This is Bashõ doing irony) You were at Seya?
The Highlander - 24 Feb 2007 13:41 GMT >Yes... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> (This is Bashõ doing irony) Here in Vancouver it's Mount Baker, often referred to by the older Japanese locals as "Baker-san". The Japanese community has been here for over 100 years, located on the edge of Richmond in a community called Steveston and in thir own community as Sutebusuton. Most came originally from Chiba and Nara Prefectures in Japan.
The community is extremely cohesive and celebrates all the traditional festivals. They have an attractive Buddhist temple and what is thought to be the finest dojo in all of North America.
http://www.judosask.ca/picpages/images/pacific2004-12.jpg
The Japanese and Caucasian communities are now integrated and intermarriage is not uncommon. The results are very attractive, a tall, handsome group with roots from all the world, like this French-Canadian-Japanese girl.
http://static.flickr.com/54/152408477_9de42f8004.jpg
In Vancouver there is a Japanese part of town, but the jewel in the crown is the Nitobe Gardens in the UBC (University of British Columbia) grounds, considered to be the finest Japanese garden outside Japan http://martingoodman.com/soyouwanttobeawriter/uploaded_images/nitobe-726276.JPG
My wife and I would go there in summer to sit on the grass and play Shogi (Japanese chess)
http://tinyurl.com/2qu4es
and Go, the apparently simplest yet highly complicated board game in the world; which to date has defied all attempts to computerize it; game at which my wife was superb, while I waded in her wake...
http://www.japan-101.com/culture/go_ancient_strategic_board_game.htm
The overall result is that Vancouver and Steveston attract hundreds of visitors from Japan every year, many of whom are students who attend UBC and other learning establishments.
Vancouver itself is an eclectic mixture of Caucasian, native Canadians, Russians, whose churches are jewels and Scots, as well as others from all over the world. Intermarriage is very common; many of native Canadians are part-Hawaiian for example; the result of laws forbidding Hawaiian sailors to marry Caucasian women in the old white supremacy days. The largest non-Caucasian community is Chinese, followed by Sikhs, but there are communities from every imaginable region, including Tibet.
http://tinyurl.com/3cn5l8
Vancouver's old Chinese name is Ham Sui Fow - Salt Water City - but the more recent immigrants call it Wan. The result is that dining out is one of the great Vancouver customs as one can eat almost any imaginable cuisine from Jamaican to English. There is even a Scottish Cultural Centre, referred to by my wife as Vancouver's finest example of an oxymoron... There is an English presence, but muted and as a multi-cultural community, there are festivals through the summer which are widely attended by people of all origins which act as showpieces for each national group, including a vast parade for Canada Day when national costumes are worn and is a focal point for meeting attractive young ladies by youths like my handsome very Highland-looking grandson whose major interests seem to revolve around his bed, unaccompanied or otherwise... http://tinyurl.com/yuxz2l
The Highlander
Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil. The views expressed in this post are not necessarily those of The Highlander.
Jack Linthicum - 24 Feb 2007 14:04 GMT > On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:18:38 -0000, "D. Spencer Hines" > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Here in Vancouver it's Mount Baker, often referred to by the older > Japanese locals as "Baker-san". The real trick is can you see Mount Rainier? Hines was stationed in Misawa, easily 250 miles from Fuji, and garden or no garden, a long look. I was stationed about 30 miles from Fuji, and I would suspect Bosho was living in Edo (Tokyo), a little bit further away, when he wrote those lines.
D. Spencer Hines - 24 Feb 2007 17:48 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Linthicum has NO IDEA where I was "stationed" and where my residences and my GARDENS were -- during my many sojourns in Japan.
What a ridiculous idiot!
FURTHER:
Pogue Linthicum flunks Junior High School Geography.
Tokyo is about 60 miles from Fuji-san [Mount Fuji], NOT "a little bit further away" -- indeed TWICE as far away from Fuji-san as Pogue Linthicum says he was ---- and Misawa is about 400 miles from Fuji-san.
Damn, he's stupid -- and he's so foolish he goes PUBLIC with it -- and FLAUNTS it.
FARBLONDJET!
Also, it's _Basho_ -- NOT _Bosho_ -- as Pogue Linthicum would have it.
Basho Matsuo (1644-1694)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsuo_Bash%C5%8D>
How Sweet It Is!
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:18:38 -0000, "D. Spencer Hines" > <poguemid...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Yes... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Here in Vancouver it's Mount Baker, often referred to by the older > Japanese locals as "Baker-san". The real trick is can you see Mount Rainier? Hines was stationed in Misawa, easily 250 miles from Fuji, and garden or no garden, a long look. I was stationed about 30 miles from Fuji, and I would suspect Bosho [sic] was living in Edo (Tokyo), a little bit further away, when he wrote those lines.
Jack Linthicum - 24 Feb 2007 21:29 GMT On Feb 24, 12:48 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hilarious! > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > Bosho [sic] was living in Edo (Tokyo), a little bit further away, when he > wrote those lines. You are aware that Tokyo is not a point on a map?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo
Machida ward is about 8 miles from Seya, Seya is about 32 miles from Fuji, if you have to go all the way downtown and where Edo was I guess you could say it was bit further away. But then I've been there.
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~kohl/basho/1-prologue/01-3.html
Matsuo Basho Museum The famous poet and haiku master Basho Matsuo (芭蕉松男) lived here from 1680 to 1682, along by the Sumida River, between the Shin-Ohashi Bridge and Kiyosu Bridge.
This museum is situated on the grounds of Basho's former hermitage ("Basho-an"). Several of Basho's most acclaimed haiku and travel journals such as "Okuno Hosomichi" were composed while he was staying at "Basho-an". The Museum keeps the collection of materials related to Basho.
The museum is 7 minute walk from Morishita station (Address : 1-6-3 Tokiwa, Koto-ku). http://www.jref.com/practical/ryogoku_morishita.shtml
Bryn - 24 Feb 2007 22:30 GMT I
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo > >http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~kohl/basho/1-prologue/01-3.html > >Matsuo Basho Museum
>http://www.jref.com/practical/ryogoku_morishita.shtml Nice links Jack.. Thanks..
 Signature Mirroring each other: white narcissi, paper screen.
Bashõ
Jack Linthicum - 25 Feb 2007 13:29 GMT On Feb 24, 5:30 pm, Bryn <Scotland-the- Br...@finhall.GREMLINSdemon.co.uk> wrote:
> I > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bashõ You have not cited Basho's (Banana Leaf's) best haiku, from his traveling days:
Fleas and lice did bite; And I'd hear the horse pass water Near my bed at night.
The characters that form Basho/Bosho/Boso's name mean "banana leaf" and are pronounced the same. Japanese like to play with the characters of a name and will often come up with some really strange nick-names for people or places.
Bosho is also famous for his travel diaries.
Bryn - 25 Feb 2007 15:00 GMT >On Feb 24, 5:30 pm, Bryn <Scotland-the- >Br...@finhall.GREMLINSdemon.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > And I'd hear the horse pass water > Near my bed at night. I think the man would have been fun at a party..
>The characters that form Basho/Bosho/Boso's name mean "banana leaf" >and are pronounced the same. Japanese like to play with the characters >of a name and will often come up with some really strange nick-names >for people or places. > >Bosho is also famous for his travel diaries. I had a glance at those on the site.. Quite a guy...
 Signature Now cat's done mewing, bedroom's touched by moonlight.
Bashõ
Jack Linthicum - 25 Feb 2007 18:03 GMT On Feb 25, 10:00 am, Bryn <Scotland-the- Br...@finhall.GREMLINSdemon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <1172410150.734147.113...@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, Jack > Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> writes [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Bashõ The "horse pissing" verse comes from him hiking down from his home north of Edo with a friend at the age of 40. The reviewer thanks the times for forcing him to travel slowly, look at everything and extract a sense from what he saw.
Have you ever read Shank's Mare?
http://www.amazon.com/Shanks-Mare-Japans-Travel-Ribaldry/dp/0804815801
Later era, by about 50-60 years but gives the flavor.
D. Spencer Hines - 25 Feb 2007 19:06 GMT Matsuo Basho's first name is uniformly pronounced _Bahshow_, with a long "o", by Japanese ---- and the English spelling is, as previously noted, _Basho_ , or sometimes, even better, with a line over the "o" to indicate a long "o" -- not some variant spelling.
You can see the Japanese _kanji_, the characters forming his name, at this site.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsuo_Bash%C5%8D>
'Nuff Said.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Jack Linthicum - 25 Feb 2007 20:36 GMT On Feb 25, 2:06 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Matsuo Basho's first name is uniformly pronounced _Bahshow_, with a long > "o", by Japanese ---- and the English spelling is, as previously noted, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Lux et Veritas et Libertas Okay, I misremembered, but if you do google you will see many examples of the name as Bosho. Now when were you in Japan and where? Other than Misawa?
D. Spencer Hines - 25 Feb 2007 23:21 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Linthicum gets his Japanese Romaji spellings by just doing an anserine, simple Google Search.
Veronique, it just doesn't get any better than this.
Enjoy!
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Jack Linthicum - 25 Feb 2007 23:33 GMT On Feb 25, 6:21 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hilarious! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Lux et Veritas et Libertas Where were you stationed in Japan and when?
D. Spencer Hines - 24 Feb 2007 17:44 GMT A Nice Summary.
How many Japanese in Vancouver, Richmond, et al.?
> The Japanese and Caucasian communities are now integrated and > intermarriage is not uncommon. The results are very attractive, a > tall, handsome group with roots from all the world, like this > French-Canadian-Japanese girl. > > http://static.flickr.com/54/152408477_9de42f8004.jpg Yes, we call them _hapa_ here in Hawai'i -- "half" -- such as my beautiful children.
Vancouver sounds most attractive.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>Yes... >> [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > The views expressed in this post are > not necessarily those of The Highlander. D. Spencer Hines - 24 Feb 2007 22:05 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Linthicum has NO IDEA where I was "stationed" and where my residences and my GARDENS were -- during my many sojourns in Japan.
What a ridiculous idiot!
FURTHER:
Pogue Linthicum flunks Junior High School Geography.
Tokyo is about 60 miles from Fuji-san [Mount Fuji], NOT "a little bit further away" -- indeed TWICE as far away from Fuji-san as Pogue Linthicum says he was ---- and Misawa is about 400 miles from Fuji-san.
Damn, he's stupid -- and he's so foolish he goes PUBLIC with it -- and FLAUNTS it.
FARBLONDJET!
Also, it's _Basho_ -- NOT _Bosho_ -- as Pogue Linthicum would have it.
Basho Matsuo (1644-1694)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsuo_Bash%C5%8D>
How Sweet It Is!
Subsequently, Pogue Linthicum rabbited off into irrelevancies and red herrings.
Hilarious!
Pogues On The Run...
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:18:38 -0000, "D. Spencer Hines" > <poguemid...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Yes... > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Here in Vancouver it's Mount Baker, often referred to by the older > Japanese locals as "Baker-san". The real trick is can you see Mount Rainier? Hines was stationed in Misawa, easily 250 miles from Fuji, and garden or no garden, a long look. I was stationed about 30 miles from Fuji, and I would suspect Bosho [sic] was living in Edo (Tokyo), a little bit further away, when he wrote those lines.
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