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History Forum / General / British History / March 2007Indians Speaking English
Often equally true of Indians in America. DSH ------------------------------------------------------ "William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:etir0g$b9h$1@aioe.org... > Indians in India speak a peculiarly precise form of English with distinct > but short gaps between each word and have problems with native English > speakers who do not speak like this, Including those groups of Indians > who speak English as a first language. > Often equally true of Indians in America. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > speakers who do not speak like this, Including those groups of Indians > > who speak English as a first language. equally true of anybody who learns any 2nd language and not just limited to indians who learn english. On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Often equally true of Indians in America. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > speakers who do not speak like this, Including those groups of Indians > > who speak English as a first language. Actually, for many of them English is their FIRST language. It's just an unusual accent like american is. >On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Actually, for many of them English is their FIRST language. It's just >an unusual accent like american is. Plus a lot of borrowings from Hindi. Do you know what a 'lakh' is, for instance? >>On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Plus a lot of borrowings from Hindi. Do you know what a 'lakh' is, for >instance? You bet! (Lakh) 1,00,000 (Crore) 1,00,00,000 (Arab) 1,00,00,00,000 (Kharab) 1,00,00,00,00,000 (Neel) 1,00,00,00,00,00,000 (Padma) 1,00,00,00,00,00,00,000 (Shankh) 1,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,000 (Mahaashankh) 1,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,000 The Highlander Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil. The views expressed in this post are not necessarily those of The Highlander. >>>On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >>>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > (Shankh) 1,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,000 > (Mahaashankh) 1,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,000 Good morning, Highlander. I trust all is well with you. > On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Actually, for many of them English is their FIRST language. It's just > an unusual accent like american is. No, no.....It's a Welsh accent.! >> On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > No, no.....It's a Welsh accent.! Is it? I didn't know Americans had Welsh accents! >>> On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> > Is it? I didn't know Americans had Welsh accents! There are a lot of things you don't know. >>>> On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > There are a lot of things you don't know. Indeed there is, but unlike some, I never claimed that I did.  SignatureRobert Peffers, Kelty, Fife, Scotland, (UK). > >> On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> > >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > > Is it? I didn't know Americans had Welsh accents! A lot of Patagonians do! Surreyman >> >> On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> > A lot of Patagonians do! You refer to the large Welsh population in Patagonia (200,000?). There are still about 25,000 people there who speak Welsh. >>> On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> > Is it? I didn't know Americans had Welsh accents! Only Americans of Welsh descent.......... "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:7kwLh.101053 $as2.51403@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: >>>> On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Only Americans of Welsh descent.......... The Welsh, as everyone knows, have true descenders. SignatureSaint Séimí mac Liam Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve Prophet of The Great Tagger Canonized December '99 > "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:7kwLh.101053 > $as2.51403@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > The Welsh, as everyone knows, have true descenders. "true descenders"? I've studied this over for quite a spell. I'm afraid I must seek clarification. "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: >> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:7kwLh.101053 >> $as2.51403@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I've studied this over for quite a spell. > I'm afraid I must seek clarification. I thought you were an oldtimey computer guy. You do not remember dot matrix printers where the hangy down bits of the small g's, y's, j's, p's and q's did not *descend* below the line. Then we got printers that printed true descenders. Then we got proportional fonts. Needless to say, in the reference I was talking about hangy down bits of a different kind. SignatureSaint Séimí mac Liam Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve Prophet of The Great Tagger Canonized December '99 > "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 > $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > say, in the reference I was talking about hangy down bits of a different > kind. Thanks, James. I wondered if an undescended testicle was in your thoughts there. >> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 >> $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Thanks, James. > I wondered if an undescended testicle was in your thoughts there. I try not to think of AWS when unnecessary. SignatureSaint Séimí mac Liam Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve Prophet of The Great Tagger Canonized December '99 >>> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 >>> $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > I try not to think of AWS when unnecessary. Well that should certainly blow up a storm from the West............. ;=) "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:aAQMh.177037 $5j1.64478@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: >>>> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 >>>> $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Well that should certainly blow up a storm from the West............. > ;=) Naw. He and Cory have me killfiled. SignatureSaint Séimí mac Liam Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve Prophet of The Great Tagger Canonized December '99 > "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:aAQMh.177037 > $5j1.64478@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > Naw. He and Cory have me killfiled. Killfiled? They couldn't stand the pressure then. You do have a way with words, James. ;=) "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:GDSNh.194778 $5j1.148535@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: >> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:aAQMh.177037 >> $5j1.64478@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > You do have a way with words, James. > ;=) Not according to them. I only regurgitate talking points. They tried potshots to each other from behind their killfiles. When I didn't rise to the bait they gave up. Bless their little black hearts. SignatureSaint Séimí mac Liam Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve Prophet of The Great Tagger Canonized December '99 > "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:GDSNh.194778 <Snip> >>> Naw. He and Cory have me killfiled. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > potshots to each other from behind their killfiles. When I didn't rise > to the bait they gave up. Bless their little black hearts. Have a little compassion here, James. About the only amusement these bedridden old fogies have left to them these days is winding up Americans. (THAT'S RIGHT, AULD BOB, I SAID "AMERICANS") >> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:GDSNh.194778 > <Snip> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > (THAT'S RIGHT, AULD BOB, I SAID "AMERICANS") I suppose it's possible I could learn to like them...on a raft in the middle of the ocean with no other provisions in sight. SignatureSaint Séimí mac Liam Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve Prophet of The Great Tagger Canonized December '99 > "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 > $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > say, in the reference I was talking about hangy down bits of a different > kind. The old ones are the best ones. SignatureRobert Peffers, Kelty, Fife, Scotland, (UK). >> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 >> $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> > The old ones are the best ones. Aye, but can they be said to be true descenders? SignatureSaint Séimí mac Liam Carriagemaker to the court of Queen Maeve Prophet of The Great Tagger Canonized December '99 >> "Conway Caine" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in news:ksWLh.108205 >> $as2.76033@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> > The old ones are the best ones. We say that only because we are getting along in years............... > On Mar 18, 8:03 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" <poguemid...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Actually, for many of them English is their FIRST language. It's just > an unusual accent like american is. In my original post (which Hines has spammed to hell and back) I made a distinction between Indian 'native speakers' of English and those taught the language later in life. Indians who learn English as their mother tongue speak the language in a distinctly different manner to those who learn it later in the very formal atmosphere of the Indian school system. SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe Barbeques on fire by chalets past the headland I've watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off Newborough All this will pass like ice-cream on the beach Time for tea |
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