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The Queen & The Prime Minister

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D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 20:02 GMT
Fascinating series of articles today in The Telegraph.

Here's a sample, by Iain Martin.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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However, as we report today, her concerns about the legacy of the Blair
years run deep.  It is testament to her discretion and self-restraint in the
face of endless provocation that such worries appear to be expressed quietly
and without much anger.

His treatment of the countryside in particular has been casually cruel.
There has been no other prime minister during her reign who has blundered
across the constitutional stage with the same mixture of ahistorical
arrogance and slapdash lack of attention to detail.

The constitutional mess created by the vandalism of Lords reform and
asymmetrical devolution to the nations of the United Kingdom will take
decades to repair, if indeed it can be repaired at all.

The rebellious Fettes schoolboy, forever winding up his masters and testing
the limits of authority, made for a poor Prime Minister when those same
boyhood traits were applied in the running of a great country.  Mrs Blair
made it worse, finding the Queen boring.

She and her husband were far more at home with Carole Caplin than in the
company of a monarch who has a unique perspective on what has changed about
Britain and what has remained constant since the war.

There is, however, one direct parallel between the departures of Churchill
and Blair from office: both doubted the abilities of their successors,
Anthony Eden and Gordon Brown, to master the job of prime minister.

When the Queen and guests had departed Number 10, the diarist Colville went
upstairs with Winston.  "He sat on his bed, still wearing his garter, order
of merit and knee breeches. For several minutes he did not speak. Then
suddenly he stared at me with vehemence: 'I don't believe Anthony can do
it.'  His prophecies have often tended to be borne out by events."

The Queen could be forgiven for thinking that anyone will be better than the
Blairs. It would be an irony if the dour Scot Gordon Brown proved far more
considerate in his dealings with her, but it is quite possible.

He does have a grasp of the concept of duty.  His understanding that history
matters should enable him to appreciate the scale of the Queen's
contribution to national life for more than half a century, with the trips
to Scotland to visit Balmoral likely to prove less of an imposition.  And
David Cameron, with his county set background and feel for the countryside,
would be a natural.

Soon the Blairs will be gone, and a part of Elizabeth II's life should get
easier.  Hopefully, the invitation to dinner at Number 10 in the next month
never arrives and the monarch can stay at home to toast the end of an era
with a gin and vermouth.  She has earned it.

Iain Martin -- The Sunday Telegraph
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 20:57 GMT
Hmmmmmmm...

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DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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Thank you for informing us that the Queen shares precisely your newspaper's
opinion of Tony Blair. I look forward to next week's edition, when we shall
learn of the Pope's similar disdain. And the climax will come one week
later, under the heading "God Also Hoping for a Cameron Victory."

Posted by S. Vardi on May 27, 2007

The English system requires the monarch to review and advise. Blair has
wanted to be a 'president'.  the queen has been able to watch what he has
been doing from a diferent position than all of us.  She has also arrived
at the same conclusions. Shows the monarchy is more in touch with the
people than ever.

Posted by paul rolph on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 21:16 GMT
Pogue Peffers does indeed have his problems, doesn't he?

What has Tony Blair done to solve these grave problems of British Domestic
Life?

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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> This on-the-spot-fines-by-all-sorts has gone well beyond a joke. For
> example I just took my tiny Papillion bitch for a wee walk in Lochore
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> too - who wants run over by some geriatric cripple in the park in a
> wheelchair)?
The Doctor - 27 May 2007 21:39 GMT
>Fascinating series of articles today in The Telegraph.
>
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>
>Iain Martin -- The Sunday Telegraph

Hopefully, Brown and Cameron will be remembered as extremist rumps!
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D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:04 GMT
Opinions.

DSH
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This is wonderful news. Our queen sahares her dismay with many of her
subjects. Her magesty would make a great many of her subjects very happy
indeed if she withheld the usual knighthood given to a prime minister when
he leaves office.

Tony Blair will apparently leave office with the prospect of earning £40
million pounds at the expense of the, now more than, 150 grieving families
of our fine young men who have died in a war that was based upon lies to the
nation.

Posted by Angus Munro on May 27, 2007

Mr Blair was elected by a fair sized majority on a mandate that included a
few of things the Queen is not happy with. I have no doubt she is
exasperated; but I doubt that foxhunting is a subject that keeps her
subjects awake at night. Her beloved Commonwealth is mostly run by corrupt
leaders or despots...none of seem capable of cleaning up their own
act...Mugabe is still there.... It has become cheap and easy to sneer at
America. They will soon choose a new President and a change of direction
will I hope ensure that our friends across the Atlantic are still our
friends. I admire the Queen but I think she is out of touch with today's
Britain

Posted by cherry on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:09 GMT
Posted by Kenneth Armitage on May 27, 2007

Everyone you meet is "deeply concerned" about what Blair has done. They are
even more concerned about what Brown might do. Despite these concerns New
Labour will no doubt be pressing ahead with ever more draconian legislation
to curb our freedoms and interfere with our lives. It's hardly surprising
when you look at the sort of opposition they encounter. The odd whimper from
the Conservatives which is ignored and treated with contempt.
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:14 GMT
Damn!

ZAAAAAAAAPPPP!

DSH
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Her Majesty is most delicate in the estimation.

What is this ‘Blair Legacy’ – a death by a thousand cuts - many small
wounds, none lethal in itself, but fatal in their cumulative effect.  How
sadly amusing to witness this strut around the stage talking about a
legacy – yes, a country laid waste, what was estimable and precious gone in
little puffs of an accidental vanity that saw power lying in the street,
unfortunately stopping to pick it up and looking nervously around, to put it
in his pocket.

Posted by Mark Derek on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:20 GMT
The queen is becoming more irrelevant each day.  Blair has a deeper
understanding of the global issues and he knows what happens globally
affects the countryside.  So the queen can go back to sipping her tea.

Posted by Roger on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:24 GMT
All socialists I've met in life see the countryside as a socially backward
place from which the country dweller (ignorant to his plight) needs
rescuing.

A rural accent was once considered pleasing and trustworthy.  Now,it is
something to be ridiculed.  To the Left, the countryside only represents the
past, and the "modern and vibrant" town and city is what matters.  Such an
attitude leaves country people unrepresented.  God knows where they think
their food comes from.

Posted by mike on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:27 GMT
Elizabeth II could have stopped Blair and his New Labour -- neocon -- clique
(and their damage) in their tracks, if she had been willing to sacrifice her
reign to refuse to authorize the sending of British forces into our war
crime Iraq war.  She must have had misgivings about it.

Nonetheless, she is -- without any doubt -- a good and great lady: even just
a teenager, she helped lead the Great Generation through World War II to
victory and then through the Cold War to the same.  And she could have been
far better served by Britain's political establishment in these later years.

Posted by Lou Coatney (Stalingrad Attacked!) on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:29 GMT
Some people say the Queen is out of touch. Obviously she is in good company
with around 70% of her subjects "of just not getting it" when it comes to
how Labour's means are going to justify the Utopia they will have created
(supposedly around the end of the 4th term).

Posted by Marc on May 27, 2007 2:39 AM
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:32 GMT
Hmmmmmmm...

DSH
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I would love to have seen Her Majesty use her powers under the Royal
Prerogative and refuse to sign some of Blair's legislation! Does the public
realize for example, that she could bring her troops home from Iraq tomorrow
if she so wished?

Posted by Rod Garr Miami on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 27 May 2007 22:34 GMT
Hmmmmmmmmm...

DSH
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The solution to Her Majesty's concerns is entirely in her own hands.  She
shouldn't be rubber-stamping the tyranny we have experienced in the last ten
years by signing Royal Assents.  This would bring about a constitutional
crisis which would invite the public to show who it supports.

She is the Head of State and Blair, along with the rest of us, is her
subject.  As such he should remain humble in her presence and subject
himself to her wishes.

Posted by Theo on May 27, 2007
D. Spencer Hines - 28 May 2007 02:50 GMT
What percentage of the British Electorate is Marxist, without splitting
doctrinal hairs, and what would the absolute number be as well?

Same figures for Labour Party members and Methodists.

Can you make an educated guess as to the overlaps?

DSH

> British voters may not worry about fox hunting but Labour Party members
> did.  The Methodist tradition thought it sounds like fun and enjoy banning
> fun things.  The Marxists were just kicking the rich and the aristocracy
> where it hurts.
D. Spencer Hines - 29 May 2007 05:31 GMT
Seriously...

What percentage of the British Electorate is Marxist, without splitting
doctrinal hairs or arguing about shades of pink, and what would the absolute
number be as well?

Same figures for Labour Party members and Methodists.

Can you make an educated guess as to the overlaps?

DSH

> British voters may not worry about fox hunting but Labour Party members
> did.  The Methodist tradition thought it sounds like fun and enjoy banning
> fun things.  The Marxists were just kicking the rich and the aristocracy
> where it hurts.
D. Spencer Hines - 30 May 2007 01:27 GMT
The Laws Are Ridiculous!

No Wonder The Queen Is Upset.

DSH

>  a.. In October 2005, a Liverpool man was convicted of hunting rabbits and
> fined £155 plus £35 costs
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> guilty of hunting rabbits with luchers. One was fined £100 with £95 costs
> and the other was fined £50 with £95 costs.
 
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