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History Forum / General / British History / May 2007Lawrence Of Arabia In Damascus -- 1918
Remember that marvelous scene in David Lean's Great Film where Lawrence is trying to get the Arabs to forget their tribal differences and come together? Then he finds out about the Sykes-Picot Agreement and realizes he has been used. "In May 1916 Britain and France had signed a secret accord - known as the Sykes-Picot Agreement, after the two negotiators - that called for a postwar division of Turkey's Middle East territories into British and French spheres of influence. Any Arab state in the region would be subject to British and French administrative control." "Two days after the triumphant entry into Damascus, Faisal learned the bitter truth about the limitations to Arab independence. Insisting that he had known nothing of the secret accord, Lawrence demanded that Allenby relieve him of his military duties and that he be permitted to return to England." Echoes Continue To This Day... DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas > Remember that marvelous scene in David Lean's Great Film where Lawrence is > trying to get the Arabs to forget their tribal differences and come [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Echoes Continue To This Day... Oh Gawd, more history from films. So who has been 'used' this time round, Hines? Surreyman >> Remember that marvelous scene in David Lean's Great Film where Lawrence is >> trying to get the Arabs to forget their tribal differences and come [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Surreyman That's rather unfair. It's a fairly accurate summary of what happened, although there is some doubt as to whether Lawrence was being entirely honest with his Arab supporters regarding Arab independence and the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which many Arabs claim he knew about but never told them. Lawrence's famous camel dash across Sinai from Aqaba to Cairo to tell General Allenby that he had captured Aqaba from the Turks has also been disputed by today's members of the Harith tribe, over whose territory the journey took place. They said flatly that the time he claimed to have done it in was simply not possible. Recent re-examination of Lawrence's diaries have uncovered his admission that he lied about the time taken for his crossing of Sinai to make himself appear something of a hero in Arab eyes. Notwithstanding, his winning the support of King Faisal of Makkah (Mecca) and Auda Abu Tayi, leader of the Howeitat tribe, definitely changed the course of the desert war and the capture of Damascus make him a pivotal force in the Arab Uprising and the ultimate retreat of the Turkish Army. Both families are still alive and well - the current King of Jordan is the great-grandson(?)of King Faisal and the Beni Tayi (Auda's descendants) are still a political force to be reckoned with. > >> Remember that marvelous scene in David Lean's Great Film where Lawrence is > >> trying to get the Arabs to forget their tribal differences and come [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > the great-grandson(?)of King Faisal and the Beni Tayi (Auda's > descendants) are still a political force to be reckoned with. I'm aware of all that. I've also trekked the Aqaba-Suez route. The film is inaccurate in numerous areas. But that doesn't concern me as much as it seems to worry others - it's great entertainment and that's it. My question to Hines, which your screed didn't approach, still stands. Surreyman >> >> Remember that marvelous scene in David Lean's Great Film where Lawrence >is [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > >Surreyman Do excuse my omission; I was of course unwilling to tread within your area of expertise, ya Sidi. >Lawrence's famous camel dash across Sinai from Aqaba to Cairo to tell >General Allenby that he had captured Aqaba from the Turks has also [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >he lied about the time taken for his crossing of Sinai to make himself >appear something of a hero in Arab eyes. Hmmm. 49 hours to cover less than 150 miles. Just over 3 miles an hour. Along a road. (yes, I too have been along it). Cannot see what's so impossible about it. Eugene L Griessel Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. >>> Remember that marvelous scene in David Lean's Great Film where Lawrence is >>> trying to get the Arabs to forget their tribal differences and come [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >he lied about the time taken for his crossing of Sinai to make himself >appear something of a hero in Arab eyes. Don't you just hate it when people embellish stories like that? ;-) >Notwithstanding, his winning the support of King Faisal of Makkah >(Mecca) and Auda Abu Tayi, leader of the Howeitat tribe, definitely [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >the great-grandson(?)of King Faisal and the Beni Tayi (Auda's >descendants) are still a political force to be reckoned with. James >>>> Remember that marvelous scene in David Lean's Great Film where Lawrence is >>>> trying to get the Arabs to forget their tribal differences and come [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > >;-) Not really; but then I'm not obsessed with the need to find fault in others to seem important. >>Notwithstanding, his winning the support of King Faisal of Makkah >>(Mecca) and Auda Abu Tayi, leader of the Howeitat tribe, definitely [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >James |
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