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History Forum / General / British History / June 2007Political Slogans Are Not Meaningless
Nope. Political SLOGANS are NOT meaningless. Not by any means. In fact they can be quite POWERFUL, encapsulating core values, policies and ideas. For Examples: _It's The Economy, Stupid!_ won for Clinton in 1992, whereas _Korea, Communism and Corruption_ won for Eisenhower in 1952. "Hippo", you need to learn to THINK before you POST. The _VIVA ESPANA!_ crowd, General Franco's crowd, the NATIONALISTS, DID win in the Spanish Civil War. Their SLOGAN prevailed. The Spanish People decided they wanted a SPANISH solution, a NATIONAL solution -- NOT a COMMUNIST-DOMINATED,, "INTERNATIONAL" one -- and they wanted a STRONG, NATIONAL, DICTATORIAL EXECUTIVE, for the foreseeable future. Later, on the death of General Franco, they even brought back the Spanish KING, as a National, Constitutional Monarch. VIVA ESPANA!... Or, even better... VIVA ESPAÑA! DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas ------------------------------------------------------- "hippo" <south-sudan.net> wrote in message news:46680fc7$0$9357$88260bb3@news.teranews.com... > "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message > >> No, the slogans are by no means meaningless. >> >> They encapsulate core values and policies and certainly DO work. >> The slogans will be quite useful in the General Election. > In the '30s, the Traditionalists would shout "Viva Espana" to the Reds and > got shouted back "Viva Republica," or "Viva FAI," or "Viva Rusia". > Nope. > > Political SLOGANS are NOT meaningless. Slogans are for morons - the type that get taken in by Rove's manipulations - the type that have done so much damage to American democracy in recent years. <snip> > > Nope. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > manipulations - the type that have done so much damage to American democracy > in recent years. Concur, like that catchy 'universal health care' one. Or, the infamous, 'raise taxes on the rich.' And of course, the recent 'culture of corruption'. Glad to see you feel slogans are moronic too. Mark  SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> > Nope. >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Glad to see you feel slogans are moronic too. Straight from Rush Limbaugh. And they all MOVE votes. So, they are certainly NOT "meaningless". Quod Erat Demonstrandum 'Nuff Said. DSH >> Concur, like that catchy 'universal health care' one. >> Or, the infamous, 'raise taxes on the rich.' >> And of course, the recent 'culture of corruption'. > And they all MOVE votes. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > DSH OK, here's my slogan entry: "Build it, and they will come." Slogan for the anti-missile system, which doesn't work, except on financial statements. >>> Concur, like that catchy 'universal health care' one. >>> Or, the infamous, 'raise taxes on the rich.' >>> And of course, the recent 'culture of corruption'. "J Antero" wrote in message > "D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message >> Nope. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > democracy > in recent years. Yes, that's right except too one sided. The Democrats are just as good at sloganeering to energize their moron base. On a voter bus during a recent purely local election for mayor was painted 'save civil rights'. I asked the Democrat poll manager what was meant by it and he looked at his feet in embarrassment with nothing to say. -the Troll >"J Antero" wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Democrat poll manager what was meant by it and he looked at his feet in >embarrassment with nothing to say. -the Troll Sounds like a clash of dinosaurs. Most non-Americans choose political parties based on a careful weighing of their political platforms, not on who can shout louder. Are you still using elephant and donkey symbols to help people decide which is the party they're voting for? For the Scots here - ask any of the American posters to name the President of Scotland. > >"J Antero" wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > parties based on a careful weighing of their political platforms, not > on who can shout louder. Now that is funny.... > Are you still using elephant and donkey symbols to help people decide > which is the party they're voting for? Only in Florida. > For the Scots here - ask any of the American posters to name the > President of Scotland. Why would we know something so irrelevant to us? - Hide quoted text - > - Show quoted text - >> >"J Antero" wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Why would we know something so irrelevant to us? That's kinda funny. Yesterday I was listening to a CBC Radio program. The host was interviewing a few comedians about x-border (Canada/US) comedy. One of the comics, on noting that Canadians like to poke at the U.S. for not knowing much about Canadian history and geography while we know a lot about *them*. He responded that he didn't know why this was the subject of so much humour and debate. Canadian history and geography simply lack relevance to most Americans. And that's neither good nor bad. btw, the more The Highlander keeps crowing about "we Scots", describing himself and his countrymen in superior terms while denigrating other nations, the more I tend to dislike Scotland and things Scot. To his Usenet countrymen's credit - most of them anyway - they distance themselves from the Lowroader's hateful arrogant rhetoric. - nilita > <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > countrymen's credit - most of them anyway - they distance themselves from > the Lowroader's hateful arrogant rhetoric. I kind of enjoy the irony of a self-proclaimed "Highlander" lecturing anyone on culture and civilization. Of course, maybe he's just a sci-fi/fantasy geek who thinks he's immortal.... > - nilita- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > lecturing anyone on culture and civilization. Of course, maybe he's > just a sci-fi/fantasy geek who thinks he's immortal.... He's one of those guys who is fascinated by something he reads, so enthralled - in fact - that he believes it happened to him. And then - woops! - out comes another wildassed story which which he always stars, of course. - nilita >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - More bullshit from soc.med.bollox's hoor. The Highlander Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan, togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan! > >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > More bullshit from soc.med.bollox's hoor. I'm not a whore...I'm a slut...I do it for free. > The Highlander > Tilgibh smucaid air do l?mhan, > togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus > toisichibh a' ge?rradh na sg?rnanan!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >> >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > I'm not a whore...I'm a slut...I do it for free. Don't even bother to explain - just ask yourself why I didn't want to be seen with you in public. >> The Highlander >> Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan, >> togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus >> toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan!- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - The Highlander Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan, togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan! >>> >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > Don't even bother to explain - just ask yourself why I didn't want to > be seen with you in public. bwwwaaahaaahaaaa! Oh my f*ing jumping jayzus Murphy. Highlander is bantering with Mr. deemsbill thinking he's talking to *moi*, the woman who spurned his invitation to dine last December!!! .. Talk about getting his attributions mixed up ... and talk about bruised ego!!!! ... :)))))) What is this .... six months later .... bwahaaahaaaa. Sucks to be a loser like the LowRoader who can't seem to score a date with a woman. - nil >>> > I kind of enjoy the irony of a self-proclaimed "Highlander" >>> >lecturing anyone on culture and civilization. Of course, maybe he's [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Don't even bother to explain - just ask yourself why I didn't want to >be seen with you in public. Because you couldn't stand to be outclassed. Nevertheless, she is certainly not "nappy-headed". DSH >>I kind of enjoy the irony of a self-proclaimed "Highlander" >>lecturing anyone on culture and civilization. Of course, maybe he's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> > More bullshit from soc.med.bollox's hoor. > btw, the more The Highlander keeps crowing about "we Scots", describing > himself and his countrymen in superior terms while denigrating other > nations, the more I tend to dislike Scotland and things Scot. To his Usenet > countrymen's credit - most of them anyway - they distance themselves from > the Lowroader's hateful arrogant rhetoric. I just blasted him in this thread for calling US soldiers racists. I didn't realize he was like this all the time. Mark SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> btw, the more The Highlander keeps crowing about "we Scots", describing >> himself and his countrymen in superior terms while denigrating other [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > realize > he was like this all the time. Have you caught his mimicry of Ebonics / slash / West African jingo? As I mentioned in a previous thread, I *have* West African rellies (my daughter being one) and friends. I want to say they would be *horrified* at LowRoader's satire of their speech. But they wouldn't be horrified; they'd laugh and call him a loser. - nilita >> >"J Antero" wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Why would we know something so irrelevant to us? Well, you still managed to make my point - there is no President of Scotland. I merely wanted to demonstrate your total ignorance of anything outside the borders of the United States and you made my point in spades. The only relevent matter we have between us at the moment is your inability to win a war against a bunch of local insurgents. We are now replacing the Liar Blair with a new Scottish Prime Minister and many Scots, who have fought bravely to prevent Basra from becoming the f.ck-up you have created in Baghdad will be pulling out as soon as it can be arranged. If you're so f.cking clever, you sort out your bloody mess with your twinkie Army and your useless generals. You're a joke that isn't making anyone laugh any more, so we're out of there, asap. The Highlander Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan, togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan! > >> >"J Antero" wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > anything outside the borders of the United States and you made my > point in spades. You had a point? Whether there is a President of Scotland is as irrelevant to an american as the names of governors of US states are to Europeans. Scotland is not relevant to most Americans in any concrete way. > The only relevent matter we have between us at the moment is your > inability to win a war against a bunch of local insurgents. We are now [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > mess with your twinkie Army and your useless generals. You're a joke > that isn't making anyone laugh any more, so we're out of there, asap. And who is "we"? You're just a bitter little man who types his inane blather from anonymity. Your Scottish ancestors, if you really have any, would be appalled at your lack of integrity. > The Highlander > Tilgibh smucaid air do l?mhan, > togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus > toisichibh a' ge?rradh na sg?rnanan!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - On Jun 11, 7:18 pm, The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote: > >On Jun 10, 3:07 am, The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 15:58:20 -0700, "hippo" <south-sudan.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > anything outside the borders of the United States and you made my > point in spades. You had a point? Whether there is a President of Scotland is as irrelevant to an american as the names of governors of US states are to Europeans. Scotland is not relevant to most Americans in any concrete way. > The only relevent matter we have between us at the moment is your > inability to win a war against a bunch of local insurgents. We are now [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > mess with your twinkie Army and your useless generals. You're a joke > that isn't making anyone laugh any more, so we're out of there, asap. And who is "we"? You're just a bitter little man who types his inane blather from anonymity. Your Scottish ancestors, if you really have any, would be appalled at your lack of integrity. ******************************* Ya think? I believe that now is the time for LowRoader's countrymen and fellows on s.c.s. to stage another intervention on him to pull him back from x-posting his garbage to the military groups in particular where he is roundly basted, lambasted, fricaseed, turned over easy and soundly spNaked! - nilita - nilita > <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > his garbage to the military groups in particular where he is roundly basted, > lambasted, fricaseed, turned over easy and soundly spNaked! I can only speak for myself, but I sure as hell ain't spanking him.... > - nilita > > - nilita- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > I can only speak for myself, but I sure as hell ain't spanking > him.... Am I gonna have to make you guys choose straws? Well???!!! - nil > <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > Am I gonna have to make you guys choose straws? Well???!!! I nominate Hines. > - nil- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > > I nominate Hines. but ... but ... Hines would enjoy that ... and now I'm getting a visual of Hines spanking the monkey ...;( > <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 109 lines] > but ... but ... Hines would enjoy that ... and now I'm getting a visual of > Hines spanking the monkey ...;( But it would be an epic battle of two legends in their own minds. They could both put their extensive military training and expertise to work....a battle of the ages between two Titans of Usenet. - Hide quoted text - > - Show quoted text - >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 130 lines] > They could both put their extensive military training and expertise to > work....a battle of the ages between two Titans of Usenet. A mere few months ago they were tag teaming as buddies. I wonder what broke them up .... - nilita > <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 137 lines] > A mere few months ago they were tag teaming as buddies. I wonder what broke > them up .... I don't think we want to know.... > - nilita- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 159 lines] > > I don't think we want to know.... Rumour has it that ... Tiglath came between them .... but sssshhhhhh .... you didn't hear it from *moi* ..... >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] >> >> - Show quoted text - Listen to me, you smelly little loser! Your group invaded ours; your group refuses to get the hell out of here and leave ours alone. We're here to discuss matters of interest to us, not educate the illiterate, illinformed group of no-hopers and fantasists we've had to deal with. The Highlander Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan, togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan! > >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > here to discuss matters of interest to us, not educate the illiterate, > illinformed group of no-hopers and fantasists we've had to deal with. "Your" group and 'our" group. How quaint. Has it penetrated your little brain that every time you've posted here, you've kept the crossposts? > The Highlander > Tilgibh smucaid air do l?mhan, > togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus > toisichibh a' ge?rradh na sg?rnanan!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - On Jun 13, 12:04 am, The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote: > >On Jun 12, 10:09 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > here to discuss matters of interest to us, not educate the illiterate, > illinformed group of no-hopers and fantasists we've had to deal with. "Your" group and 'our" group. How quaint. Has it penetrated your little brain that every time you've posted here, you've kept the crossposts? ****************************************** Pretty ironic, eh? Anyway, I have to admit that I have enjoyed reading the *majority* of Scottish x-posters, those who are smart, witty, and have a large knowledge basis, are honest and sincere and open to discussion, even on military topics. The Highlander is not among them. He should stick to his home group where maybe he still has cred with maybe one or two of his fellow countrymen. - nilita > On Jun 13, 12:04 am, The Highlander <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >On Jun 12, 10:09 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] > > - nilita Now I hate to point this out to you but here is a cut and paste of YOUR headers, "alt.history.british,sci.military.naval,soc.culture.scottish,soc.history.medieval,us.military.army". You are cross-posting to five groups and if anyone replies to you without trimming headers that reply is to every one of those five groups. SignatureRobert Peffers, Kelty, Fife, Scotland, (UK). > > <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > >news:1181729141.331094.302370@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] > trimming headers that reply is to every one of those five groups. > -- Now I hate to point this out to you but here is a cut and paste of YOUR headers, "alt.history.british,sci.military.naval,soc.culture.scottish,soc.history.medieval,us.military.army". You are cross-posting to five groups and if anyone replies to you without trimming headers that reply is to every one of those five groups. Hal >> >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >little brain that every time you've posted here, you've kept the >crossposts? Of course it has. We're crossposting to insult you and make you underestand the contempt we hold you in, so you'll finaly do what you should never have done in the first place; acted like the supine little nobodies you are by letting Hines control you with his crossposting sh.t to scs in the first place. Time you grew up! The Highlander Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan, togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan! > >> >> <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > Of course it has. Hypocrisy noted. We're crossposting to insult you and make you > underestand the contempt we hold you in, so you'll finaly do what you > should never have done in the first place; acted like the supine [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > Of course it has. We're crossposting to insult you and make you > underestand the contempt we hold you in, Who is this "we"? Despite the fact that your ego is large enough to supply the needs of a stadium crowd, you speak for no one but yourself...a fact you might want to write down so you remember it. > Time you grew up! After you... Deirdre >> Of course it has. We're crossposting to insult you and make you >> underestand the contempt we hold you in, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > After you... LowRoader is a killfiling pussy. But, take note, dear Deirdre. The vast majority of the readership recognize that, despite his use of the first person plural, he does *not* represent the best among the Scottish. He should be made your national cartoon emblem. I think a Usenet wide Highlander caricature drawing contest is indicated! - nilita > >> Of course it has. We're crossposting to insult you and make you > >> underestand the contempt we hold you in, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > LowRoader is a killfiling pussy. An insult to pussies everywhere. > But, take note, dear Deirdre. The vast majority of the readership recognize > that, despite his use of the first person plural, I expect they do, which doesn't mean he _shouldn't_ be called on his ex cathedra pronouncements...he _doesn't_ speak for me or for anyone else in scs and his arrogant assertion that he's our mouthpiece is just over the top. Scots can, do and will, speak for themselves...just try to stop them. > he does *not* represent the best among the Scottish. He isn't even representative of Highlanders...for someone who claims such lofty origins he has man- ners which would embarrass a guttersnipe. Deirdre On Jun 14, 3:43 pm, Deirdre Sholto Douglas <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >> Of course it has. We're crossposting to insult you and make you > > >> underestand the contempt we hold you in, [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > someone who claims such lofty origins he has man- > ners which would embarrass a guttersnipe. Now I'm not trying to insult Highlanders, but I never thought of them as the epitome of culture and sophistication. Weren't they kind of considered barbarians by the more cultured people of Europe? > Deirdre- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - > On Jun 14, 3:43 pm, Deirdre Sholto Douglas > <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > them as the epitome of culture and sophistication. Weren't they kind > of considered barbarians by the more cultured people of Europe? Depends what type of historical propaganda, if any, you decide to believe in. For instance during the 45 rebellion there was a huge surge of anti-Highlander propaganda circulated in England suggesting that the devil incarnate was about to descend on them. All that happened of course was that you ended up with some very bemused Highlanders wondering why the hell everyone thought their babies were going to be eaten! The barbarity happened on a massive level after Culloden when the British Army (made up of Scots, English and Continentals) wrought revenge on a largely innocent Highland population. Hence despite the earlier clan warfare in the Highlands itself real barbarity was no worse than what went on all over Europe. On an educated level the Scotland of the, for example 17th or 18thC, was among the most educated countries in the world, if not the most educated country. The Highlands didn't have the same blanket cover as the Lowlands did at first but it was still there. That is why the 18thC Enlightenment was so prominent in Scotland. Of course it was mostly a largely Lowland affair but the Highlander contributed too. And even if they weren't famous for Opera on 18thC Skye of course they still had their own high culture. Lowland Scotland looked down on Highland culture but again that was at the time probably just dislike or fear of difference. Hence people like the Spaniard Ayala wrote about tame Scots and wild Scots, but of course he was getting his info from the elite of Edinburgh society. Just because a culture is different it doesn't mean it isn't culture. In those days of course high culture was often a thing of the society elite whilst the ordinary people could live in abject poverty, but that was mostly the same all over whether in Skye, Edinburgh, London or Paris. I suspect what Deirdre is meaning is that some in modern Highland society, or just rural society in general, has a tendency to think of itself as better mannered and in general better bred than city Scots. Some city folk may think of Highlanders and even Borderers or folk from the rural north-east as teuchters and bumpkins, whilst in return some rural folk stereotype city folk, especially Glaswegians, as ill mannered keillies and guttersnipes. As for Highlander himself he's a dichotomy. He is capable of really informative and interesting posts and makes many of them especially on scs. In general the group would be IMHO greatly diminished without his presence. The there's the down side where he sometimes gets involved in long boring personal spats and can go way over the top with his thing about Americans. I tend to shake my head and move on but I do get the feeling that if most folk on these groups actually met each other we'd probably get on like a house on fire. Allan > <deemsb...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > stereotype city folk, especially Glaswegians, as ill mannered keillies and > guttersnipes. I realize a lot of the Highlander stereotypes come from the English and Lowland Scots. They were not as technologically advanced, so they were considered rude barbarians. They didn't have as large communitiies, etc....so, once again.... It's kind of like how the colonists regarded the Native Americans....some of whom were quite advanced. Even when some, such as the Cherokee, settled down to play the white man's game, they were still not accepted because they were savages, etc. > As for Highlander himself he's a dichotomy. He is capable of really > informative and interesting posts and makes many of them especially on scs. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > on these groups actually met each other we'd probably get on like a house on > fire. Every newsgroup has to have a few bitter old curmudgeons. > Allan >> On Jun 14, 3:43 pm, Deirdre Sholto Douglas >> <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Allan Not to mention the fact that after the Battle of Prestonpans there are records of the Prince stopping pursuit and killing of fleeing soldiers and the names of the wounded of both sides who were taken to Edinburgh Infirmary and treated for their wounds are still on record. Contrast that with the treatment of both the troops and civilians after Culloden Moor a year later. SignatureRobert Peffers, Kelty, Fife, Scotland, (UK). > >> On Jun 14, 3:43 pm, Deirdre Sholto Douglas > >> <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > the names of the wounded of both sides who were taken to Edinburgh Infirmary > and treated for their wounds are still on record. Bear in mind, the Prince probably regarded those on both sides of the altercation as his (or at least, his father's) subjects and so showing clemency to the wounded was only right. Even if his army was comprised of Highlanders, he wasn't one...his mother was Polish, his grandmother French, his great-grandmother Danish...all mixed in with the Stewarts (who are theoretically descended from a Breton knight who arrived with William the Conqueror...which gives him some Celtic blood, but it doesn't make him a Highlander). Deirdre > Bear in mind, the Prince probably regarded those on both > sides of the altercation as his (or at least, his father's) > subjects and so showing clemency to the wounded was > only right. [Referring to Bonnie Prince Charlie.] > Even if his army was comprised of Highlanders, he wasn't > one...his mother was Polish, his grandmother French, his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Deirdre No. Deirdre is no genealogist. She has her generations confused. BPC's grandmother was "Italian" -- born in the Ducal Palace in Modena. His great-grandmother was French -- Henrietta Maria de France, wife of Charles I and daughter of Henri IV. His great-great-grandmother was Anne of Denmark, wife of James I/VI. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas > > Bear in mind, the Prince probably regarded those on both > > sides of the altercation as his (or at least, his father's) [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > His great-great-grandmother was Anne of Denmark, wife of James I/VI. As may be, DSH, he wasn't a Highlander. Deirdre >> >> On Jun 14, 3:43 pm, Deirdre Sholto Douglas >> >> <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > subjects and so showing clemency to the wounded was > only right. Of course you are right in that the Prince's aim was for his father to sit on the throne in London among his British subjects. He fully expected to we welcomed in Jacobite England and that many of the faithful would rise on his behalf. Hence for political and recruiting reasons the last thing he would need would be British troops being hacked to death any more than need be. Saying that this is coupled with the fact that he seemed to genuinely regret having to fight any of his subjects as his correspondence with his father showed after Cope's mainly English troops were defeated at Prestonpans. "If I had obtained this victory over foreigners my joy would have been complete; but as it is over Englishmen, it has thrown a damp upon me that I little imagined....................Prince Charles Stuart by Ewald" The again folk are often complicated. The rebellion was a sideshow in a much wider conflict with far larger battles going on elsewhere. If he regretted fighting the English and other British so much then it seems strange that during the massive struggle that was going on in Europe against France that he should put his own family's interest above that of the state and align himself with the enemy by opening a new front within Britain itself. Allan >> >> On Jun 14, 3:43 pm, Deirdre Sholto Douglas >> >> <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > subjects and so showing clemency to the wounded was > only right. Were not the Highlanders also the subjects of the Pretender's opposition? > Even if his army was comprised of Highlanders, he wasn't > one...his mother was Polish, his grandmother French, his [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Deirdre I think the point is that the entire events were not a matter of Highlander vs Lowlander nor of Scotland vs England but a conflict due to there being more than one claimant to the same crowns and a joint throne. There were, "Allsorts", on both sides and the added ingredient of religious bigotry. SignatureRobert Peffers, Kelty, Fife, Scotland, (UK). > Not to mention the fact that after the Battle of Prestonpans there are > records of the Prince stopping pursuit and killing of fleeing soldiers and > the names of the wounded of both sides who were taken to Edinburgh > Infirmary and treated for their wounds are still on record. Contrast that > with the treatment of both the troops and civilians after Culloden Moor a > year later. The army defeated at Prestonpans was not composed of traitors. The army defeated at Culloden was... SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. > I suspect what Deirdre is meaning is that some in modern Highland society, > or just rural society in general, has a tendency to think of itself as > better mannered and in general better bred than city Scots. Erm...well, that's close enough, I guess. However, what I actually meant was that The Highlander who claims breeding and privileged upbringing, doesn't show evidence of either in his conduct. His racism is appalling and his insular, parochial attitude beggars be- lief...I've never met anyone, Highlander, Lowlander, Bor- derer or otherwise who was so consistently and inten- tionally offensive simply because others refuse to massage his massive ego. This ongoing vendetta he has against Nilita simply be- cause she chose _not_ to engage face-to-face is a perfect case in point...were he half the gentleman he claims to be, he would have dropped it the instant she backed out, instead he attacks her at every opportun- ity...that's the hallmark of an ill-bred, insecure cretin, no more, no less. (And don't even get me started on his "boinking the maid" rubbish...cheap bodice rippers do _not_ mirror Real Life.) Deirdre >> I suspect what Deirdre is meaning is that some in modern Highland >> society, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > his "boinking the maid" rubbish...cheap bodice rippers > do _not_ mirror Real Life.) It's ironic that he constantly refers to me as "whore" because I refused to go out with him. I don't even think so-called "real" whores from the East End would date him. - nilita > This ongoing vendetta he has against Nilita simply be- > cause she chose _not_ to engage face-to-face is a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > his "boinking the maid" rubbish...cheap bodice rippers > do _not_ mirror Real Life.) One suspects that I am lucky to have missed all of this. Allan >> This ongoing vendetta he has against Nilita simply be- >> cause she chose _not_ to engage face-to-face is a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Allan We all are - Deirdre was one of those who gleefully stirred the pot. As for her own claimed background... The Highlander Tilgibh smucaid air do làmhan, togaibh a' bhratach dhubh agus toisichibh a' geàrradh na sgòrnanan! > We all are - Deirdre was one of those who gleefully stirred the pot. If telling you that you're ill-mannered and narcissic is "stirring the pot" then I'll cheerfully plead guilty...and you can well believe, while I may be the only one willing to say it to you, I'm _not_ the only one posting to scs (or any of the other crossposted groups) who thinks so. > As for her own claimed background... I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on lineage or upbringing...I also think you'll find it impos- sible to say the same. Deirdre >> We all are - Deirdre was one of those who gleefully stirred the pot. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (or any of the other crossposted groups) who thinks > so. He has KF'ed all those who have busted his chops on the matter (which would be 99 per cent of the regulars in these groups) so that he can hang on the illusion that he is "All That". There is no end to his lying. >> As for her own claimed background... > > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on > lineage or upbringing...I also think you'll find it impos- > sible to say the same. Indeed, Deirdre. And that's one of the reasons I've lambasted Michael ("The Highlander") because he most certainly does NOT speak on behalf of "we Scots". There are and have been many Scots in my life, and none of them would/could identify with his blanket statements. I'm glad to know you because of the smart witty person you are and what you contribute to discussions, that you most certainly do NOT exhibit an air of superiority ... and the fact that you are one of the few women left on Usenet ...%) High-Five to sistah Deirdre! - nilita > > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where > > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > ("The Highlander") because he most certainly does NOT speak on behalf of "we > Scots". That's the narcissism to which I refer...it's one thing to be a diamond in the rough, quite another to be _coal_. > There are and have been many Scots in my life, and none of them > would/could identify with his blanket statements. I'm glad to know you > because of the smart witty person you are and what you contribute to > discussions, that you most certainly do NOT exhibit an air of superiority > ... and the fact that you are one of the few women left on Usenet ...%) I've a feeling there's probably quite a lot of women left on USENET but they choose to frequent venues which are less confrontational. Speaking of which, where's Renia these days? > High-Five to sistah Deirdre! Wait, let me take my rings off first...:-) Deirdre >> > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where >> > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to be a diamond in the rough, quite another to be > _coal_. Extreme egocentrism. Anyway, he has us killfiled, because he would like himself and the gullibles to believe that the only women who are not charmed by him are not worth "knowing", that we are beneath him. >> There are and have been many Scots in my life, and none of them >> would/could identify with his blanket statements. I'm glad to know you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > which are less confrontational. Speaking of which, > where's Renia these days? I was wondering the same myself. I think she allowed the rude boorish Hines to get to her. Most women of culture and intelligence don't want to hang in venues that are frequented by his type. The rest of us just have thick skins ...%) I also miss Major Sheila, but her big (military) move comes this month. >> High-Five to sistah Deirdre! > > Wait, let me take my rings off first...:-) Yes! They're positively blinding to the eyes! ... :) > Deirdre - nilita No question about that... He wants women beneath him -- but he can't find even one that will agree. DSH > Extreme egocentrism. Anyway, he has us killfiled, because he would like > himself and the gullibles to believe that the only women who are not > charmed by him are not worth "knowing", that we are beneath him. > > That's the narcissism to which I refer...it's one thing > > to be a diamond in the rough, quite another to be [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > himself and the gullibles to believe that the only women who are not charmed > by him are not worth "knowing", that we are beneath him. My observations in this group seem to show that not too many women interact with him for long...it's mostly the men. > > I've a feeling there's probably quite a lot of women > > left on USENET but they choose to frequent venues [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > venues that are frequented by his type. The rest of us just have thick > skins ...%) Renia struck me as someone who could hold her own... perhaps she's just on summer holiday. > >> High-Five to sistah Deirdre! > > > > Wait, let me take my rings off first...:-) > > Yes! They're positively blinding to the eyes! ... :) <laugh> I have to confess, I was not as concerned with blinding someone as I was with the fact that if I knock the stone out of these prongs again, my Better Half is going to murder me. I don't mean to be, but as life would have it, it appears I'm a bit hard on rings. Deirdre >> > That's the narcissism to which I refer...it's one thing >> > to be a diamond in the rough, quite another to be [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > too many women interact with him for long...it's mostly > the men. And whoever said that women were the dumber sex! ... ;) >> > I've a feeling there's probably quite a lot of women >> > left on USENET but they choose to frequent venues [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Renia struck me as someone who could hold her own... > perhaps she's just on summer holiday. You must have been gone. Hines kept bringing up Renia's husband and going on and on and on about *him* like a relentless pitbull. When he couldn't win debate with Renia, somehow he would throw in a sucker punch and bring up her husband, his work, his weight, etc. Renia, being the classy woman she is, does not like family members and loved ones to be used as Usenet fodder by losers such as Hines. Similarly, the loser Highlander on Usenet slammed my daughter - to try to get at me - my beloved spawn, who was kind and patient with him the few times he called for me on her cell phone. >> >> High-Five to sistah Deirdre! >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > going to murder me. I don't mean to be, but as life > would have it, it appears I'm a bit hard on rings. The only time I put on rings is if I'm going to a fancy do or on holidays. As a matter of fact, last month when I went on holidays I brought out the ole jewellery box to find that everything looked so ... faded and icky. It was my best friend who told me to use toothpaste on the gems to bring them back to life. And it worked! - nilita > > Renia struck me as someone who could hold her own... > > perhaps she's just on summer holiday. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > win debate with Renia, somehow he would throw in a sucker punch and bring up > her husband, his work, his weight, etc. Oh, I _did_ miss that. > Renia, being the classy woman she > is, does not like family members and loved ones to be used as Usenet fodder > by losers such as Hines. Similarly, the loser Highlander on Usenet slammed > my daughter - to try to get at me - my beloved spawn, who was kind and > patient with him the few times he called for me on her cell phone. Mind you, he takes rather severe umbrage if someone brings up his late wife...I must say, it's one of the _healthiest_ double standards I've ever encountered. >> > Wait, let me take my rings off first...:-) > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > The only time I put on rings is if I'm going to a fancy do or on holidays. I wear one on the ring finger of each hand (well, two on the left...wedding and guard band) but the wedding ring, being a simple broad gold band is a non-issue...it's the one on my right hand that's the bane of my existence. It was purchased by His Lordship as a gift, lo these many years ago and I knew the moment I opened the box I was in trouble. "It's lovely, I can't possibly wear it..." "Why, do you honestly believe opals are unlucky?" "No, I honestly believe they're fragile, I'll break it." "For Christ's sake, woman, you're thirty-five, not twelve." "Can we just agree that I'm young at heart?" Needless to say, we did not agree and I wore the ring and my mantra became "Don't break the opal, don't break the opal." Six months later, when we were dining out, I was wearing it and he commented on how I'd managed _not_ to wreck it. Fate was listening. The very next day I was making a salad and noticed some- thing glinting in the lettuce and fishing it out netted me... wait for it...one half of an opal (I've no idea who ended up eating the other half). Being dutiful (and not wanting to be asked where the ring was), I 'fessed up. "How on earth did you do _that_!?" "It's your fault." <eyebrows soar to the hairline> "How the Hell is it _my_ fault?" "You jinxed me last night." "What sort of scientist believes in jinxes?" "One who's just encountered one..." Nevertheless, he took the (now empty) setting with the intent of having it reset. "What do you want in here?" "Not another opal." "Then what?" "How about granite?" "What?!" "It's hard." "Try again." "Fine...limestone. It's cheap." I lost and it was reset with a cabachon ruby with the idea being that a ruby was too hard for me to break. It was, however Fate found a new way to trip me up and three months later I was handing over a setting and a loose stone. "What the Hell?!" "Prong broke." "Look, you've got to remember you're wearing a ring." "I _do_ remember...I heard the <sproink> and knew _instantly_ I was wearing a ring...sans stone." "You're trying to tell me this is a _timing_ problem?" "I am if you're buying it." The prong was fixed, the stone reset and all was happy for two years until <ping> the damned stone tiddly- winked itself out and across the living room one night. The jeweler was consulted and it was deemed that the reason might be that the prongs weren't gripping the cabochon stones tightly enough...it was then reset with a faceted sapphire...which fell out and went down the drain inside of six months leaving me to hand over the setting again. "Where's the stone?" "You don't want to know." "Probably not, where is it?" "Hopefully in the trap." "Which trap?" "Kitchen." It wasn't, however we _did_ find my daughter's missing earring. Giving in to my pleas for a cheaper stone...before our insurance company started picketing the house, it was reset again. This time with a green tourmaline. That stone opted for life on the road on its first birthday, happily I found it and had it reset myself before I had to cop to messing up _again_. The tourmaline has now, so far, managed to stay in its setting for five years, but I don't trust it any further than I could throw my car. As a result I take the ruddy ring off for _everything_...and worry everytime I shake hands that the ruddy stone's going to <pop> and put out someone's eye. Needless to say, my reputation for being a "respon- sible adult" has taken a bit of a beating. > As a matter of fact, last month when I went on holidays I brought out the > ole jewellery box to find that everything looked so ... faded and icky. It > was my best friend who told me to use toothpaste on the gems to bring them > back to life. And it worked! Works a treat...unfortunately I can't seem to hold on to the stones long enough for them to get dingy. Deirdre > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on > lineage or upbringing. Golly - we could hardly be more different. > > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where > > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on > > lineage or upbringing. > > Golly - we could hardly be more different. You and the Highlander? I agree entirely...to me you come across as cynical and more that just a trifle tongue-in-cheek, but even when you let your head take its occasional journey to the clouds, your feet appear to be firmly planted on the ground of reality. Highlander, otoh, seems to be losing his grip and grasp of reality more with each passing day and is spending his "golden years" constructing foundation- less castles in the sky. Maybe it's just me, but when given the choice bet- ween someone who appears to be a sardonic ageing hippie and someone who is clearly a bombastic wanna- be hero, I'll trust the words and sense of the former over the latter any day. Deirdre >> > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where >> > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > be hero, I'll trust the words and sense of the former > over the latter any day. Sardonic aging hippies work for *moi* too ...%) - nilita, who lives in a part of canuckistan where there are lots of those types ... heheh ... > Sardonic aging hippies work for *moi* too ...%) I never thought of myself as a 'hippy' or any other catagory in particular - but others seem to. I spent quite a while in a motorcycle gang for one thing. And even longer in suit-and-tie occupations. Both with limited success it has to be said. : ) > > Sardonic aging hippies work for *moi* too ...%) > > I never thought of myself as a 'hippy' or any other catagory in particular - > but others seem to. I notice you didn't quibble with "sardonic" or "ageing". :-) Deirdre >> > Sardonic aging hippies work for *moi* too ...%) >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I notice you didn't quibble with "sardonic" or "ageing". :-) I thought about it. >> > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where >> > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You and the Highlander? I agree entirely No, you and me, you dimwit. I was meaning you would be hard pressed to find a post of mine where I DON'T believe I'm superior based on lineage or upbringing. Honestly - I really don't know why I bother sometimes. > >> > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where > >> > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I was meaning you would be hard pressed to find a post of mine where I DON'T > believe I'm superior based on lineage or upbringing. <sigh> I was _trying_ to avoid popping your wee balloon, Adam...anyway, you're not nearly as obnoxious or vulgar about it, you're going to have to try harder because the Highlander has set the bar of insufferability extremely high. > Honestly - I really don't know why I bother sometimes. Yes, you do, you just don't want to admit you're having fun. Deirdre >> >> > I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where >> >> > I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > <sigh> I was _trying_ to avoid popping your wee balloon, > Adam... Hmmm. I've said this before but humour is a funny thing. And usenet offers endless opportunities to misconstrue. >anyway, you're not nearly as obnoxious or vulgar > about it, you're going to have to try harder because the > Highlander has set the bar of insufferability extremely > high. I can compete on my day but I have to admit I'm in awe of his staying power. A W-S >> Honestly - I really don't know why I bother sometimes. > > Yes, you do, you just don't want to admit you're having > fun. > > Deirdre >> I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where >> I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on >> lineage or upbringing. > > Golly - we could hardly be more different. Of course. She is a Douglas and you are...are....a Whyte-Settlar >>> I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where >>> I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Of course. > She is a Douglas and you are...are....a Whyte-Settlar I'm pleased you still get odds moments of clarity. >>>> I think you'll be hard pressed to find any posts where >>>> I treat others badly or believe I'm superior based on [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I'm pleased you still get odds moments of clarity. Just helping you not to rise above your station. Most embarrassing that. <Snip> > We all are - Deirdre was one of those who gleefully stirred the pot. > As for her own claimed background... "Claimed background"? She's a Black Douglas for gawd's sake. She'll have your guts for garters and not lose a moment's sleep over it. > <Snip> > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > She's a Black Douglas for gawd's sake. > She'll have your guts for garters and not lose a moment's sleep over it. I think I would pay to see that, any idea of when and where this could be arranged? > > <Snip> > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I think I would pay to see that, any idea of when and where this could > be arranged? Eeeuuuw, must I? There are some family traditions which are better off left in the past...garters dripping Type O among them...I mean it's just so 14th century. Deirdre >> > <Snip> >> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > off left in the past...garters dripping Type O among > them...I mean it's just so 14th century. Confess, Deirdre! You just don't want Highlander cooties! ... ;) - nilita Not So. They make Good Souvenirs. My 14th Century Ancestors had it just right. DSH > There are some family traditions which are better > off left in the past...garters dripping Type O among > them...I mean it's just so 14th century. > > Deirdre Whilst perusing Usenet on Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:28:16 -0500, I read these words from Deirdre Sholto Douglas <finch.enteract@sbcglobal.net> >> > <Snip> >> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >off left in the past...garters dripping Type O among >them...I mean it's just so 14th century. Noted for future reference !!! -- jjj > Whilst perusing Usenet on Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:28:16 -0500, I read > these words from Deirdre Sholto Douglas <finch.enteract@sbcglobal.net> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Noted for future reference !!! You know, it's been a long time since we've stocked a proper larder...not since 1307 as I recall...perhaps, in your honour, I could arrange for a reenactment. It's not like those within _have_ to be English, in a pinch we could make do with Stewarts. Deirdre >> > <Snip> >> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > off left in the past...garters dripping Type O among > them...I mean it's just so 14th century. Er... 19th century eckshully. It's from Walter Scotts 'Bride of Lammermoor' - about 18mumble, mumble. > >> > <Snip> > >> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Er... 19th century eckshully. > It's from Walter Scotts 'Bride of Lammermoor' - about 18mumble, mumble. _Bride of Lammermoor_ was set in the time of Queen Anne, as I recall, which pushes the date back to the late 17th century. However, given that Scott seemed to have had few original ideas, it's a safe bet he probably appropriated it from an earlier time. We can split the difference if you like...call it middle 16th century. Deirdre On Jun 17, 9:51 am, Deirdre Sholto Douglas <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >> > "The Highlander" <mich...@shaw.ca> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Deirdre On a similar note, for those who can get never reliable History Channel. No recipes. TVPG | Visit the website 11:00 PM Cannibalism Secrets Revealed: Cannibalism Secrets Revealed. Cannibalism evokes an image of uncivilized people roasting enemies over a fire. But the reality is that even the most civilized humans have resorted to cannibalism. And there's new evidence that some of Europe's first humans had a taste for their own kind of flesh. Usually cannibalism occurs as a last resort--people being pushed to do the unthinkable in order to survive. And while there's little doubt that it occurred, survivors struggle to conceal the truth or simply deny it happened. Was it a practice accepted by societies long ago? We also investigate the recent discovery of Neolithic bones in England that show signs of cannibalism--a discovery that shocked experts and horrified many since some bones belonged to newborns. Our three tales of cannibalism suggest that those who ate human meat are far from alone. Secrecy, denial, even pride, are emotions that accompany the act of eating human flesh. But how do we handle the truth behind the act? TV14 > On Jun 17, 9:51 am, Deirdre Sholto Douglas > <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > act? > TV14 < swoon > But, of course, Jack ... you know that's what I like .. this man eating man business ....%) - nilita, who owns *the* definitive book on the subject and upon which the above doc may be based ... > > On Jun 17, 9:51 am, Deirdre Sholto Douglas > > <finch.enter...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > - nilita, who owns *the* definitive book on the subject and upon which the > above doc may be based ... That's Monday night program, just noticed that small fact >> >> > <Snip> >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Anne, as I recall, which pushes the date back to the late > 17th century. It was *set* back in the 17th but I just looked it up - it was written in 1812. > However, given that Scott seemed to > have had few original ideas, it's a safe bet he probably > appropriated it from an earlier time. Maybe. The history of the word 'gut' is interesting. Related to the word gutter apparently. O.E. guttas (pl.) "bowels, entrails," related to geotan "to pour," from PIE *gh(e)u- "pour." Related to M.Du. gote, Ger. Gosse "gutter, drain," M.E. gote "channel, stream." Sense of "inside contents of anything" (usually pl.) is from 1580. > We can split the difference if you like...call it middle > 16th century. 'Guts' is from 1580 so in all conscience I can't agree to that. > > However, given that Scott seemed to > > have had few original ideas, it's a safe bet he probably [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > gote "channel, stream." Sense of "inside contents of anything" (usually > pl.) is from 1580. Interesting indeed...I shall never regard the guttering in the same light again. (Personally, I'd like to stop regarding it at all, but it getting the slope right seems to be beyond the crew who installed it last autumn.) > > We can split the difference if you like...call it middle > > 16th century. > > 'Guts' is from 1580 so in all conscience I can't agree to that. Perhaps the word dates from then, but I expect the action of evisceration predates it by a considerable margin. Deirdre >> 'Guts' is from 1580 so in all conscience I can't agree to that. > > Perhaps the word dates from then, but I expect the > action of evisceration predates it by a considerable > margin. I'd agree but; "I'll eviscerate you for my garters", doesn't have the same ring somehow. >>> >> > <Snip> >>> >> > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > 'Guts' is from 1580 so in all conscience I can't agree to that. Quite the gutter snip you are. ;=) >>> > <Snip> >>> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Er... 19th century eckshully. > It's from Walter Scotts 'Bride of Lammermoor' - about 18mumble, mumble. And yet another lawyer joins the group.......... >> > <Snip> >> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > off left in the past...garters dripping Type O among > them...I mean it's just so 14th century. It would at least verify that The Highlander bleeds blue blood. >>> > <Snip> >>> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > It would at least verify that The Highlander bleeds blue blood. Or green? In the news from Vancouver: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2007/06/08/health-green-blood.html Vancouver patient oozes green blood Last Updated: Friday, June 8, 2007 | 7:17 AM PT The Canadian Press Doctors at Vancouver's St. Paul's Hospital came across something highly illogical when they tried to put an arterial line into a patient about to undergo surgery: his blood was dark green. The green blood - reminiscent of the Vulcan blood found in Mr. Spock of Star Trek fame - came as a bit of a shock to Dr. Alana Flexman and her colleagues, who report on the unusual case in this week's issue of the journal The Lancet. .... continued .... >>>> > <Snip> >>>> |
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