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This Is A Health-Care/Social Services System We Should Envy?

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D. Spencer Hines - 23 Dec 2003 06:45 GMT
"UK cold snap kills 2,500 in a week"

This Is A Health-Care/Social Services System We Should Envy?

Ludicrous!

DSH
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"This is
LONDON"
23/12/03 - News and city section

"UK cold snap kills 2,500 in a week"
By Alexa Baracaia, Evening Standard

"The cold spell has killed more than 2,500 people across England and
Wales in the past week, experts today revealed.

New research shows that a higher proportion of the British population
dies as a direct result of winter weather than in Russia or Finland.

How about those apples? ---- DSH

Between 15 and 22 December there are estimated to have been more than
540 deaths in London and the South-East alone and it is predicted that
the number of people dying " unnecessarily" from the cold could rise to
50,000 this season.

"The UK remains one of the worst countries in the world at coping with
unseasonal temperatures," said Professor Sian Griffiths, President of
the Faculty of Public Health which carried out the study along with the
Met Office.

Read, Mark, Learn And Inwardly Digest... Vide supra ---- DSH

The findings come after it was revealed that an elderly couple in
Tooting were found dead in their flat 13 weeks after their gas supply
was cut off.

The bodies of George Bates, 89, and his wife Gertrude, 86, were found
huddled in the living room of the home they had shared for 64 years.

British Gas, which was owed 140.62 pounds by the couple, said the Data
Protection Act had prevented them from passing information to social
services.

Bureaucratic And Parliamentary Idiocy.... ---- DSH

But David Hinchcliffe, chairman of the Government's health select
committee, said: "I don't think there are any excuses."

The new research, which calculates the number of deaths caused by the
cold in England and Wales over the past week, claims that the victims
will have died from treatable ailments.

Professor Griffiths warned: "All of us must be vigilant to look out for
family, friends and neighbours who may be suffering.  Often illnesses
develop after a cold snap has finished."
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Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor
Peter Jason - 23 Dec 2003 20:50 GMT
Yes indeed!
Do you know the NHS costs>

> "UK cold snap kills 2,500 in a week"
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> Vires et Honor
nightjar - 23 Dec 2003 21:12 GMT
> "UK cold snap kills 2,500 in a week"
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> How about those apples? ---- DSH

The people in Russia and Finland know they live in a cold climate. Britons
don't think they do. The standard response to anyone saying they are cold is
usually a suggestion to put another woolly on.

However, to make that comparison of any value, it would also be necessary to
know how the three countries compare for the incidence of heart disease and
strokes. Those are major killers in Britain and cold weather thickens the
blood, making those already vulnerable more likely to die in winter than in
summer. This is not so much a news item as one of the reminders, such as
encouraging the vulnerable to have a flu jab, that come around each year
about this time.

Colin Bignell
Mika Perälä - 24 Dec 2003 09:05 GMT
> > "UK cold snap kills 2,500 in a week"
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> don't think they do. The standard response to anyone saying they are cold is
> usually a suggestion to put another woolly on.

Right. How many British houses has for example triple-glassed windows like
in Finland? These are normal in houses built since 50´s or 60´s perhaps. And
the older ones have those installed later on. In Russia I'm afraid things
are not that good.

> However, to make that comparison of any value, it would also be necessary to
> know how the three countries compare for the incidence of heart disease and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> encouraging the vulnerable to have a flu jab, that come around each year
> about this time.

There are many factors, food, alcohol consumption and so on which causes
heart diseases so just knowing the dying rates of heart disease would not be
enough.

mika
finland
Vaughan Sanders - 24 Dec 2003 11:40 GMT
snip

> Right. How many British houses has for example triple-glassed windows like
> in Finland? These are normal in houses built since 50´s or 60´s perhaps. And
> the older ones have those installed later on. In Russia I'm afraid things
> are not that good.

Single glaze real lead lights on mine which I built in 80, very draughty
in a winter northerly blow. I don't know if I could build like this now,
possibly with secondary glazing I could.
The rule now is double glazing with K glass, also the cavity insulation
has been increased from 50mm to 65mm and loft insulation from 100mm to
200mm. We have just had a dispute with building control who were
insisting on double glaze K glass dividing doors to a single glaze
conservatory, they eventually allowed 250mm loft insulation instead.
The latest buzz word is "no cold spots", for example, bricks for lintel
or joist bearings are out, but they seem to have backed down on joist
hangers rather than building the joist in the walls.
(I think the standard light weight blocks for the internal skin are 4
newton, a LBC fletton brick is 21 newton).
Apparently they can order a pressure test on a new house if they think
it doesn't meet the new thermal regs, but I haven't seen one yet.

Jamie
 
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