Iran's Secret Plan For Mayhem
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D. Spencer Hines - 20 Jul 2007 20:19 GMT While Pogue J. Gans continues to anserinely bleat and bovinely rant as follows:
"It has been all over the news lately. According to "highly placed sources" Iran is funding and supplying al Qaeda in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan."
"I am serious. The Administration is as ignorant as ever (which is what you get when you hire on the basis of political loyalty) or they are lying (again)."
"...Don't believe that crap that Iran is buddies with al Qaeda. One is Sunni, the other Shi'a. One group is Persian, the other primariy [sic] Arab."
"They HATE each other."
Pogue J. Gans -- 6/25/07
Hilarious!
DSH
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Whereas, the COGNOSCENTI realize THESE following Truths On The Ground, as reported by Eli Lake -- and have so realized for well over six months now.
Poor Pogue Gans -- always days late and dollars short when it comes to actually understanding Basic Truths & Facts about the Global War On Islamofascist Jihadist Terrorism.
It's a Sapientia Deficit on Pogue Gans's part...Hastened by hardening of the cerebral arteries.
Vide Infra Pro Sapientia
DSH
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Iran's Secret Plan For Mayhem
By ELI LAKE Staff Reporter of the New York Sun
January 3, 2007
WASHINGTON — Iran is supporting both Sunni and Shiite terrorists in the Iraqi civil war, according to secret Iranian documents captured by Americans in Iraq.
The news that American forces had captured Iranians in Iraq was widely reported last month, but less well known is that the Iranians were carrying documents that offered Americans insight into Iranian activities in Iraq.
An American intelligence official said the new material, which has been authenticated within the intelligence community, confirms "that Iran is working closely with both the Shiite militias and Sunni Jihadist groups." The source was careful to stress that the Iranian plans do not extend to cooperation with Baathist groups fighting the government in Baghdad, and said the documents rather show how the Quds Force — the arm of Iran's revolutionary guard that supports Shiite Hezbollah, Sunni Hamas, and Shiite death squads — is working with individuals affiliated with Al Qaeda in Iraq and Ansar al-Sunna.
Another American official who has seen the summaries of the reporting affiliated with the arrests said it comprised a "smoking gun." "We found plans for attacks, phone numbers affiliated with Sunni bad guys, a lot of things that filled in the blanks on what these guys are up to," the official said.
One of the documents captured in the raids, according to two American officials and one Iraqi official, is an assessment of the Iraq civil war and new strategy from the Quds Force. According to the Iraqi source, that assessment is the equivalent of " Iran's Iraq Study Group," a reference to the bipartisan American commission that released war strategy recommendations after the November 7 elections. The document concludes, according to these sources, that Iraq's Sunni neighbors will step up their efforts to aid insurgent groups and that it is imperative for Iran to redouble efforts to retain influence with them, as well as with Shiite militias.
Rough translations of the Iranian assessment and strategy, as well as a summary of the intelligence haul, have been widely distributed throughout the policy community and are likely to influence the Iraq speech President Bush is expected to deliver in the coming days regarding the way forward for the war, according to two Bush administration officials.
The news that Iran's elite Quds Force would be in contact, and clandestinely cooperating, with Sunni Jihadists who attacked the Golden Mosque in Samarra (one of the holiest shrines in Shiism) on February 22, could shake the alliance Iraq's ruling Shiites have forged in recent years with Tehran. Many Iraq analysts believe the bombing vaulted Iraq into the current stage of its civil war.
The top Quds Force commander — known as Chizari, according to a December 30 story in the Washington Post — was captured inside a compound belonging to Abdul Aziz Hakim, the Shiite leader President Bush last month pressed to help forge a new ruling coalition that excludes a firebrand Shiite cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr.
According to one Iraqi official, the two Quds commanders were in Iraq at the behest of the Iraqi government, which had requested more senior Iranian points of contact when the government complained about Shiite death squad activity. The negotiations were part of an Iraqi effort to establish new rules of the road between Baghdad and Tehran. This arrangement was ironed out by Iraq's president, Jalal Talabani, when he was in Tehran at the end of November.
While Iran has openly supported Iraqi Shiite militias involved in attacks on American soldiers, the Quds Force connection to Sunni insurgents has been murkier.
In 2003, coalition forces captured a playbook outlining Iranian intentions to support insurgents of both stripes, but its authenticity was disputed.
American intelligence reports have suggested that export/import operations run by Sunni terrorists in Fallujah in 2004 received goods from the revolutionary guard.
"We have seen bits and piece of things before, but it was highly compartmentalized suggesting the Iranian link to Sunni groups," a military official said.
A former Iran analyst for the Pentagon who also worked as an adviser to the Coalition Provisional Authority, Michael Rubin, said yesterday: "There has been lots of information suggesting that Iran has not limited its outreach just to the Shiites, but this has been disputed."
He added, "When documents like this are found, usually intelligence officials may confirm their authenticity but argue they prove nothing because they do not reflect a decision to operationalize things."
A former State Department senior analyst on Iraq and Iran who left government service in 2005, Wayne White, said he did not think it was likely the Quds Force was supporting Sunni terrorists who were targeting Shiite political leaders and civilians, but stressed he did not know.
"I have no doubt whatsoever that al-Quds forces are on the ground and active in Iraq," he said. "That's about it. I saw evidence that Moqtada al Sadr was in contact with Sunni Arab insurgents in western Iraq, but I never saw evidence of Iran in that loop."
Mr. White added, "One problem that we all have is that people consistently conduct analysis assuming that the actor is going to act predictably or rationally based on their overall mindset or ideology. Sometimes people don't.
"One example of a mindset that may hinder analysis of Iranian involvement is the belief that Iran would never have any dealings with militant Sunni Arabs. But they allowed hundreds of Al Qaeda operatives to escape from Afghanistan across their territory in 2002," he said.
See Also: <http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N19430870.htm> (Reuters, no less. -- DSH)
And: <http://iraqnam.blogspot.com/2007/04/general-barbero-iran-supporting-sunni.html> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, it's a crippling mindset -- particularly to be found amongst mediocre academics who are prisoners of their own calcified Rampant Pogue Ideology [RPI], who are poaching out of their own narrow academic fields, and who think others have the same disabling disease.
Hence they are totally incapable of functioning in the Global Arena of International Power Politics and National Security Affairs....
Pogue Gans is their poster boy.
Hilarious!
But GREAT ENTERTAINMENT.
'Nuff Said.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
Sholem Aleichem
Allahu Akbar
William Black - 20 Jul 2007 20:29 GMT Oh God it's back...
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
Andrew Chaplin - 20 Jul 2007 20:47 GMT > Oh God it's back... $DEITY had f.ck all to do with it.
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D. Spencer Hines - 20 Jul 2007 21:10 GMT $DEITY?
DSH
>> Oh God it's back... > > $DEITY had f.ck all to do with it. Nebulous - 20 Jul 2007 21:13 GMT "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:pF8oi.53
Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins Success to Tommy Atkins, he's a very brave man, And to deny it there's few people can; And to face his foreign foes he's never afraid, Therefore he's not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said.
No, he's paid by our Government, and is worthy of his hire; And from our shores in time of war he makes our foes retire, He doesn't need to beg; no, nothing so low; No, he considers it more honourable to face a foreign foe.
No, he's not a beggar, he's a more useful man, And, as Shakespeare has said, his life's but a span; And at the cannon's mouth he seeks for reputation, He doesn't go from door to door seeking a donation.
Oh, think of Tommy Atkins when from home far away, Lying on the battlefield, earth's cold clay; And a stone or his knapsack pillowing his head, And his comrades lying near by him wounded and dead.
And while lying there, poor fellow, he thinks of his wife at home, And his heart bleeds at the thought, and he does moan; And down his cheek flows many a silent tear, When he thinks of his friends and children dear.
Kind Christians, think of him when far, far away, Fighting for his Queen and Country without dismay; May God protect him wherever he goes, And give him strength to conqner his foes.
To call a soldier a beggar is a very degrading name, And in my opinion it's a very great shame; And the man that calls him a beggar is not the soldier's friend, And no sensible soldier should on him depend.
A soldier is a man that ought to be respected, And by his country shouldn't be neglected; For he fights our foreign foes, and in danger of his life, Leaving behind him his relatives and his dear wife.
Then hurrah for Tommy Atkins, he's the people's friend, Because when foreign foes assail us he does us defend; He is not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said, No, he doesn't need to beg, he lives by his trade.
And in conclusion I will say, Don't forget his wife and children when he's far away; But try and help them all you can, For remember Tommy Atkins is a very useful man.
Paul J Gans - 20 Jul 2007 21:15 GMT In alt.history.british Andrew Chaplin <ab.chaplin@yourfinger.rogers.com> wrote:
>> Oh God it's back...
>$DEITY had f.ck all to do with it. I strongly suggest that we trim all headers when responding to He Who Shall be Nameless. It might keep AHB from being buried in crosspostings again.
Recall how the number went down when HWSBN went down for the count?
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La N - 20 Jul 2007 23:32 GMT >> Oh God it's back... > > $DEITY had f.ck all to do with it. I was told it would take it silver stake to the heart ....
- nilita
Paul J Gans - 23 Jul 2007 02:53 GMT In alt.history.british La N <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Oh God it's back... >> >> $DEITY had f.ck all to do with it.
>I was told it would take it silver stake to the heart .... That makes an unwarranted anatomical assumption, doesn't it?
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redc1c4 - 20 Jul 2007 20:49 GMT > Oh God it's back... funny, i thought the same thing when your name appeared in UMA.
redc1c4, you and Ponce really need to get a room, btw. %-)
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Nebulous - 20 Jul 2007 20:56 GMT "redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in message
Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins Success to Tommy Atkins, he's a very brave man, And to deny it there's few people can; And to face his foreign foes he's never afraid, Therefore he's not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said.
No, he's paid by our Government, and is worthy of his hire; And from our shores in time of war he makes our foes retire, He doesn't need to beg; no, nothing so low; No, he considers it more honourable to face a foreign foe.
No, he's not a beggar, he's a more useful man, And, as Shakespeare has said, his life's but a span; And at the cannon's mouth he seeks for reputation, He doesn't go from door to door seeking a donation.
Oh, think of Tommy Atkins when from home far away, Lying on the battlefield, earth's cold clay; And a stone or his knapsack pillowing his head, And his comrades lying near by him wounded and dead.
And while lying there, poor fellow, he thinks of his wife at home, And his heart bleeds at the thought, and he does moan; And down his cheek flows many a silent tear, When he thinks of his friends and children dear.
Kind Christians, think of him when far, far away, Fighting for his Queen and Country without dismay; May God protect him wherever he goes, And give him strength to conqner his foes.
To call a soldier a beggar is a very degrading name, And in my opinion it's a very great shame; And the man that calls him a beggar is not the soldier's friend, And no sensible soldier should on him depend.
A soldier is a man that ought to be respected, And by his country shouldn't be neglected; For he fights our foreign foes, and in danger of his life, Leaving behind him his relatives and his dear wife.
Then hurrah for Tommy Atkins, he's the people's friend, Because when foreign foes assail us he does us defend; He is not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said, No, he doesn't need to beg, he lives by his trade.
And in conclusion I will say, Don't forget his wife and children when he's far away; But try and help them all you can, For remember Tommy Atkins is a very useful man.
William Black - 20 Jul 2007 21:03 GMT >> Oh God it's back... > > funny, i thought the same thing when your name appeared in UMA. My server doesn't actually carry UMA.
I keep getting an error message.
So I've no idea how it gets there.
 Signature William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
Nebulous - 20 Jul 2007 21:05 GMT "William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:_x8oi.306
Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins Success to Tommy Atkins, he's a very brave man, And to deny it there's few people can; And to face his foreign foes he's never afraid, Therefore he's not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said.
No, he's paid by our Government, and is worthy of his hire; And from our shores in time of war he makes our foes retire, He doesn't need to beg; no, nothing so low; No, he considers it more honourable to face a foreign foe.
No, he's not a beggar, he's a more useful man, And, as Shakespeare has said, his life's but a span; And at the cannon's mouth he seeks for reputation, He doesn't go from door to door seeking a donation.
Oh, think of Tommy Atkins when from home far away, Lying on the battlefield, earth's cold clay; And a stone or his knapsack pillowing his head, And his comrades lying near by him wounded and dead.
And while lying there, poor fellow, he thinks of his wife at home, And his heart bleeds at the thought, and he does moan; And down his cheek flows many a silent tear, When he thinks of his friends and children dear.
Kind Christians, think of him when far, far away, Fighting for his Queen and Country without dismay; May God protect him wherever he goes, And give him strength to conqner his foes.
To call a soldier a beggar is a very degrading name, And in my opinion it's a very great shame; And the man that calls him a beggar is not the soldier's friend, And no sensible soldier should on him depend.
A soldier is a man that ought to be respected, And by his country shouldn't be neglected; For he fights our foreign foes, and in danger of his life, Leaving behind him his relatives and his dear wife.
Then hurrah for Tommy Atkins, he's the people's friend, Because when foreign foes assail us he does us defend; He is not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said, No, he doesn't need to beg, he lives by his trade.
And in conclusion I will say, Don't forget his wife and children when he's far away; But try and help them all you can, For remember Tommy Atkins is a very useful man.
Nebulous - 20 Jul 2007 20:50 GMT "William Black" <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:j28oi.95
Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins Success to Tommy Atkins, he's a very brave man, And to deny it there's few people can; And to face his foreign foes he's never afraid, Therefore he's not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said.
No, he's paid by our Government, and is worthy of his hire; And from our shores in time of war he makes our foes retire, He doesn't need to beg; no, nothing so low; No, he considers it more honourable to face a foreign foe.
No, he's not a beggar, he's a more useful man, And, as Shakespeare has said, his life's but a span; And at the cannon's mouth he seeks for reputation, He doesn't go from door to door seeking a donation.
Oh, think of Tommy Atkins when from home far away, Lying on the battlefield, earth's cold clay; And a stone or his knapsack pillowing his head, And his comrades lying near by him wounded and dead.
And while lying there, poor fellow, he thinks of his wife at home, And his heart bleeds at the thought, and he does moan; And down his cheek flows many a silent tear, When he thinks of his friends and children dear.
Kind Christians, think of him when far, far away, Fighting for his Queen and Country without dismay; May God protect him wherever he goes, And give him strength to conqner his foes.
To call a soldier a beggar is a very degrading name, And in my opinion it's a very great shame; And the man that calls him a beggar is not the soldier's friend, And no sensible soldier should on him depend.
A soldier is a man that ought to be respected, And by his country shouldn't be neglected; For he fights our foreign foes, and in danger of his life, Leaving behind him his relatives and his dear wife.
Then hurrah for Tommy Atkins, he's the people's friend, Because when foreign foes assail us he does us defend; He is not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said, No, he doesn't need to beg, he lives by his trade.
And in conclusion I will say, Don't forget his wife and children when he's far away; But try and help them all you can, For remember Tommy Atkins is a very useful man.
Paul J Gans - 20 Jul 2007 21:09 GMT In soc.history.medieval William Black <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Oh God it's back... Yes. Unchastened.
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Nebulous - 20 Jul 2007 21:13 GMT "Paul J Gans" <gans@panix.com> wrote in message news:f7r4qc$hj0
Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins Success to Tommy Atkins, he's a very brave man, And to deny it there's few people can; And to face his foreign foes he's never afraid, Therefore he's not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said.
No, he's paid by our Government, and is worthy of his hire; And from our shores in time of war he makes our foes retire, He doesn't need to beg; no, nothing so low; No, he considers it more honourable to face a foreign foe.
No, he's not a beggar, he's a more useful man, And, as Shakespeare has said, his life's but a span; And at the cannon's mouth he seeks for reputation, He doesn't go from door to door seeking a donation.
Oh, think of Tommy Atkins when from home far away, Lying on the battlefield, earth's cold clay; And a stone or his knapsack pillowing his head, And his comrades lying near by him wounded and dead.
And while lying there, poor fellow, he thinks of his wife at home, And his heart bleeds at the thought, and he does moan; And down his cheek flows many a silent tear, When he thinks of his friends and children dear.
Kind Christians, think of him when far, far away, Fighting for his Queen and Country without dismay; May God protect him wherever he goes, And give him strength to conqner his foes.
To call a soldier a beggar is a very degrading name, And in my opinion it's a very great shame; And the man that calls him a beggar is not the soldier's friend, And no sensible soldier should on him depend.
A soldier is a man that ought to be respected, And by his country shouldn't be neglected; For he fights our foreign foes, and in danger of his life, Leaving behind him his relatives and his dear wife.
Then hurrah for Tommy Atkins, he's the people's friend, Because when foreign foes assail us he does us defend; He is not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said, No, he doesn't need to beg, he lives by his trade.
And in conclusion I will say, Don't forget his wife and children when he's far away; But try and help them all you can, For remember Tommy Atkins is a very useful man.
D. Spencer Hines - 20 Jul 2007 21:13 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Gans thinks he's the High Chastener.
Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this.
Enjoy!
DSH
> In soc.history.medieval William Black <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >>Oh God it's back... > > Yes. Unchastened. Nebulous - 20 Jul 2007 21:46 GMT "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:2I8oi.
Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins Success to Tommy Atkins, he's a very brave man, And to deny it there's few people can; And to face his foreign foes he's never afraid, Therefore he's not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said.
No, he's paid by our Government, and is worthy of his hire; And from our shores in time of war he makes our foes retire, He doesn't need to beg; no, nothing so low; No, he considers it more honourable to face a foreign foe.
No, he's not a beggar, he's a more useful man, And, as Shakespeare has said, his life's but a span; And at the cannon's mouth he seeks for reputation, He doesn't go from door to door seeking a donation.
Oh, think of Tommy Atkins when from home far away, Lying on the battlefield, earth's cold clay; And a stone or his knapsack pillowing his head, And his comrades lying near by him wounded and dead.
And while lying there, poor fellow, he thinks of his wife at home, And his heart bleeds at the thought, and he does moan; And down his cheek flows many a silent tear, When he thinks of his friends and children dear.
Kind Christians, think of him when far, far away, Fighting for his Queen and Country without dismay; May God protect him wherever he goes, And give him strength to conqner his foes.
To call a soldier a beggar is a very degrading name, And in my opinion it's a very great shame; And the man that calls him a beggar is not the soldier's friend, And no sensible soldier should on him depend.
A soldier is a man that ought to be respected, And by his country shouldn't be neglected; For he fights our foreign foes, and in danger of his life, Leaving behind him his relatives and his dear wife.
Then hurrah for Tommy Atkins, he's the people's friend, Because when foreign foes assail us he does us defend; He is not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said, No, he doesn't need to beg, he lives by his trade.
And in conclusion I will say, Don't forget his wife and children when he's far away; But try and help them all you can, For remember Tommy Atkins is a very useful man.
Andrew Swallow - 21 Jul 2007 04:13 GMT > "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:2I8oi. > > Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins {snip}
This is the seventh time you have posted this.
Andrew Swallow
Cory Bhreckan - 20 Jul 2007 21:26 GMT > Oh God it's back... He wouldn't if you didn't reply to him. I killfiled him ages ago.
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Dave - 22 Jul 2007 19:49 GMT >> Oh God it's back... > >He wouldn't if you didn't reply to him. I killfiled him ages ago. Him and the Highlander.
Nebulous - 22 Jul 2007 21:36 GMT "Dave" <dave@knowhere.com> wrote in message
Beautiful Monikie BEAUTIFUL Monikie! with your trees and shrubberies green And your beautiful walks, most charming to be seen: 'Tis a beautiful place for pleasure-seekers to resort, Because there they can have innocent sport, Taking a leisure walk all round about, And see the ang1ers fishing in the pond for trout.
Besides, there's lovely white swans swimming on the pond, And Panmure Monument can be seen a little distance beyond; And the scenery all round is enchanting I declare, While sweet-scented fragrance fills the air.
Then away, pleasure-seekers of bonnie Dundee, And have a day's outing around Monikie, And inhale the pure air, on a fine summer day, Which will help to drive dull care away; As ye gaze on the beautiful scenery there, Your spirits will feel o'erjoyed and free frozen care.
Then near to the pond there's a beautiful green sward, Where excursionists can dance until fatigue does them retard; And if they feel thirsty, the Monikie water's near by, Where they can quench their thirst if very dry.
Then, after that, they can have a walk at their ease, Amongst the green shrubbery and tall pine trees; And in the centre of the pand they can see Three beautiful little islets dressed in green livery.
Monikie is as bonnie a place as ye could wish to see, And about eleven or twelve miles from bonnie Dundee; It's the only place I know of to enjoy a holiday, Because there's a hall of shelter there to keep the rain away.
Then there's a large park, a very suitable place, For the old and the young, if they wish to try a race; It's there they can enjoy themselves during the live-long summer day, Near to the little purling burn, meandering on its way, And emptying itself into the pond of Monikie, Which supplies the people with water belonging to Dundee,
Tankfixer - 21 Jul 2007 03:18 GMT In article <j28oi.95$ie3.4@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, william.black@hotmail.co.uk mumbled
> Oh God it's back... Must have been a short sentence....
 Signature Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a diet of static text and cascading "threads."
Nebulous - 21 Jul 2007 10:49 GMT "Tankfixer" <paul.carrier@us.army.m> wrote in message news:J1eoi.10486
The Bonnie Sidlaw Hills Bonnie Clara, will you go to the bonnie Sidlaw hills And pu' the blooming heather, and drink from their rills? There the cranberries among the heather grow, Believe me, dear Clara, as black as the crow.
Chorus -- Then, bonnie Clara, will you go And wander with me to and fro? And with joy our hearts will o'erflow When we go to the bonnie Sidlaws O.
And the rabbits and hares sport in mirthful glee In the beautiful woods of Glen Ogilvy, And innocent trout do sport and play In the little rivulet of Glen Ogilvy all the day.
Chorus
And in the bonnie woods of Sidlaw the blackbird doth sing, Making the woodlands with his notes to ring, Which ought to make a dull heart feel gay, And help to oheer us on our way.
Chorus
And there the innocent sheep are to be seen Browsing on the purple heather and pastures green; And the shepherd can be heard shouting to his dog As he chases the sheep from out of the bog.
Chorus
And from the tops of the Sidlaws can be seen The beautiful Howe of Strathmore with its trees and shrubberies green; Likewise Lochee and its spinning mills Can be seen on a clear day from the Sidlaw hills.
Chorus
Therefore, bonnie Clara, let's away To Sidlaw hills without delay, And pu' the cranberries and bonnie blooming heather While we wander to and fro on the Sidlaws together.
Chorus
There the lovers can enjoy themselves free from care By viewing the hilly scenery and inhaling the fresh air, And return home at night with their hearts full of glee After viewing the beauties of the Sidlaw hills and Glen Ogilvy.
Chorus
Weatherlawyer - 21 Jul 2007 11:15 GMT > Oh God it's back... Just delete the sh.t for brain's brains and change the subject. Try adding a little humour and it might catch on.
Nebulous - 21 Jul 2007 14:09 GMT "Weatherlawyer" <Weatherlawyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
The Bonnie Sidlaw Hills Bonnie Clara, will you go to the bonnie Sidlaw hills And pu' the blooming heather, and drink from their rills? There the cranberries among the heather grow, Believe me, dear Clara, as black as the crow.
Chorus -- Then, bonnie Clara, will you go And wander with me to and fro? And with joy our hearts will o'erflow When we go to the bonnie Sidlaws O.
And the rabbits and hares sport in mirthful glee In the beautiful woods of Glen Ogilvy, And innocent trout do sport and play In the little rivulet of Glen Ogilvy all the day.
Chorus
And in the bonnie woods of Sidlaw the blackbird doth sing, Making the woodlands with his notes to ring, Which ought to make a dull heart feel gay, And help to oheer us on our way.
Chorus
And there the innocent sheep are to be seen Browsing on the purple heather and pastures green; And the shepherd can be heard shouting to his dog As he chases the sheep from out of the bog.
Chorus
And from the tops of the Sidlaws can be seen The beautiful Howe of Strathmore with its trees and shrubberies green; Likewise Lochee and its spinning mills Can be seen on a clear day from the Sidlaw hills.
Chorus
Therefore, bonnie Clara, let's away To Sidlaw hills without delay, And pu' the cranberries and bonnie blooming heather While we wander to and fro on the Sidlaws together.
Chorus
There the lovers can enjoy themselves free from care By viewing the hilly scenery and inhaling the fresh air, And return home at night with their hearts full of glee After viewing the beauties of the Sidlaw hills and Glen Ogilvy.
Chorus
Nebulous - 20 Jul 2007 20:50 GMT "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:2%7oi.50$
Lines in Praise of Tommy Atkins Success to Tommy Atkins, he's a very brave man, And to deny it there's few people can; And to face his foreign foes he's never afraid, Therefore he's not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said.
No, he's paid by our Government, and is worthy of his hire; And from our shores in time of war he makes our foes retire, He doesn't need to beg; no, nothing so low; No, he considers it more honourable to face a foreign foe.
No, he's not a beggar, he's a more useful man, And, as Shakespeare has said, his life's but a span; And at the cannon's mouth he seeks for reputation, He doesn't go from door to door seeking a donation.
Oh, think of Tommy Atkins when from home far away, Lying on the battlefield, earth's cold clay; And a stone or his knapsack pillowing his head, And his comrades lying near by him wounded and dead.
And while lying there, poor fellow, he thinks of his wife at home, And his heart bleeds at the thought, and he does moan; And down his cheek flows many a silent tear, When he thinks of his friends and children dear.
Kind Christians, think of him when far, far away, Fighting for his Queen and Country without dismay; May God protect him wherever he goes, And give him strength to conqner his foes.
To call a soldier a beggar is a very degrading name, And in my opinion it's a very great shame; And the man that calls him a beggar is not the soldier's friend, And no sensible soldier should on him depend.
A soldier is a man that ought to be respected, And by his country shouldn't be neglected; For he fights our foreign foes, and in danger of his life, Leaving behind him his relatives and his dear wife.
Then hurrah for Tommy Atkins, he's the people's friend, Because when foreign foes assail us he does us defend; He is not a beggar, as Rudyard Kipling has said, No, he doesn't need to beg, he lives by his trade.
And in conclusion I will say, Don't forget his wife and children when he's far away; But try and help them all you can, For remember Tommy Atkins is a very useful man.
J Antero - 21 Jul 2007 01:00 GMT > While Pogue J. Gans continues to anserinely bleat and bovinely rant as > follows: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Iran is funding and supplying al Qaeda in Iraq and the Taliban in > Afghanistan." If the Iranians were really smart, they'd use behind the scenes methods to get a corrupt, intellectually deficient fuckup into the US Presidency.
Think of the harm that would be done to the US and its allies...
"Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2000 "It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet." --George W. Bush, Arlington Heights, Ill., Oct. 24, 2000
On economics: "If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow." --George W. Bush, Jan. 2000
Nebulous - 21 Jul 2007 01:03 GMT "J Antero" <ae@re.com> wrote in message news:E0coi.10418$
The Bonnie Sidlaw Hills Bonnie Clara, will you go to the bonnie Sidlaw hills And pu' the blooming heather, and drink from their rills? There the cranberries among the heather grow, Believe me, dear Clara, as black as the crow.
Chorus -- Then, bonnie Clara, will you go And wander with me to and fro? And with joy our hearts will o'erflow When we go to the bonnie Sidlaws O.
And the rabbits and hares sport in mirthful glee In the beautiful woods of Glen Ogilvy, And innocent trout do sport and play In the little rivulet of Glen Ogilvy all the day.
Chorus
And in the bonnie woods of Sidlaw the blackbird doth sing, Making the woodlands with his notes to ring, Which ought to make a dull heart feel gay, And help to oheer us on our way.
Chorus
And there the innocent sheep are to be seen Browsing on the purple heather and pastures green; And the shepherd can be heard shouting to his dog As he chases the sheep from out of the bog.
Chorus
And from the tops of the Sidlaws can be seen The beautiful Howe of Strathmore with its trees and shrubberies green; Likewise Lochee and its spinning mills Can be seen on a clear day from the Sidlaw hills.
Chorus
Therefore, bonnie Clara, let's away To Sidlaw hills without delay, And pu' the cranberries and bonnie blooming heather While we wander to and fro on the Sidlaws together.
Chorus
There the lovers can enjoy themselves free from care By viewing the hilly scenery and inhaling the fresh air, And return home at night with their hearts full of glee After viewing the beauties of the Sidlaw hills and Glen Ogilvy.
Chorus
D. Spencer Hines - 21 Jul 2007 04:57 GMT "It has been all over the news lately. According to "highly placed sources" Iran is funding and supplying al Qaeda in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan."
"I am serious. The Administration is as ignorant as ever (which is what you get when you hire on the basis of political loyalty) or they are lying (again)."
"...Don't believe that crap that Iran is buddies with al Qaeda. One is Sunni, the other Shi'a. One group is Persian, the other primariy [sic] Arab."
"They HATE each other."
Paul J. Gans -- 6/25/07
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There he goes again:
Dead Wrong, As Usual...
Au Contraire...
For The Subtle, Complex & Correct Version...
See:
<http://www.nysun.com/article/46032>
<http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N19430870.htm> (Left-Wing, America-Hating Reuters, no less. -- DSH)
And:
<http://iraqnam.blogspot.com/2007/04/general-barbero-iran-supporting-sunni.html>
'Nuff Said.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
Sholem Aleichem
Allahu Akbar
D. Spencer Hines - 21 Jul 2007 19:23 GMT We note with delightful amusement that Pogue Gans has lit out for the tall grass with his tail between his legs and is no doubt hiding out in the Gansian Fuehrerbunker at this very moment -- plucking arrows out of his commodious rump and licking his wounds.
Clearly he has no defense for the rubbish he wrote below and has fled at the first sign of a challenge to his rank stupidity and vast sump of foul-smelling ignorance.
The GENERALS are telling us about this smoking-gun Iranian-Sunni connection -- NOT the Bush Administration -- which Gans hates with a white-hot passion, compounded by ignorance, guile, disingenuousness and malice aforethought..
Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this.
Enjoy!
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult -------------------------------------------------------------
"It has been all over the news lately. According to "highly placed sources" Iran is funding and supplying al Qaeda in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan."
"I am serious. The Administration is as ignorant as ever (which is what you get when you hire on the basis of political loyalty) or they are lying (again)."
"...Don't believe that crap that Iran is buddies with al Qaeda. One is Sunni, the other Shi'a. One group is Persian, the other primariy [sic] Arab."
"They HATE each other."
Paul J. Gans -- 6/25/07
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There he goes again:
Dead Wrong, As Usual...
Au Contraire...
For The Subtle, Complex & Correct Version...
See:
<http://www.nysun.com/article/46032>
<http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N19430870.htm> (Left-Wing, America-Hating Reuters, no less. -- DSH)
And:
<http://iraqnam.blogspot.com/2007/04/general-barbero-iran-supporting-sunni.html>
'Nuff Said.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
Sholem Aleichem
Allahu Akbar
D. Spencer Hines - 22 Jul 2007 01:21 GMT Contra Pogue Gans's Babbling, Bitter, Ignorant, Malice-Aforethought Partisanship...
It's the American Army and Marine GENERALS, NOT "The Bush Administration", who are telling us the Iranians are supporting the Sunni Insurgency, as well as the Shi'ites, in Iraq -- AND the Taliban Sunnis in Afghanistan.
DSH --------------------------------------------------
US general says Iran backs Iraqi Shi'ites and Sunnis
19 Apr 2007 By Kristin Roberts
WASHINGTON, April 19 (Reuters) - Iranian intelligence forces are supporting Sunni insurgents in Iraq, in addition to Shi'ites, to destabilize the country and tie U.S. forces down, a U.S. general said on Thursday.
The comments from Maj. Gen. Michael Barbero, deputy director for regional operations in the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, marked a further escalation in U.S. accusations against Iran's Shi'ite government.
"Detainees in American custody have indicated that Iranian intelligence operatives have given support to Sunni insurgents and then we've discovered some munitions in Baghdad neighborhoods which are largely Sunni that were manufactured in Iran," Barbero said. He did not give further details.
Asked why Iranian forces would support Sunnis, Barbero said they seek "to destabilize Iraq, tie us down. Pretty much the same strategic goals they have by supporting the Shia insurgents."
The United States has often said Iran provides weapons technology and training to Shi'ite militias in Iraq -- charges that Tehran denies. But over the past week, the U.S. military has begun to accuse Iran of supporting Sunnis as well.
The U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad first said Iranian intelligence agents were giving "some support" to Iraqi Sunnis, but he did not describe the kind of support.
Then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the top U.S. general, Gen. Peter Pace, said coalition forces in Afghanistan, to Iran's east, had intercepted Iranian weapons meant for the Sunni Taliban.
On Thursday, Iran said the accusation of providing weapons to the Taliban was "baseless," the semi-official Fars news agency reported.
Barbero said he did not know if Iranian intelligence agents were giving support to al Qaeda elements in Iraq as well.
U.S. forces in Iraq are holding five Iranians detained in a January raid. According to the United States, the Iranians are linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard networks that provide weapons to insurgents attacking U.S. troops. Iran says the five are diplomats and has demanded their release.
Charges that Iran is working against U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting insurgents have followed accusations by the United States and others that Tehran seeks nuclear weapons behind the cover of an energy program. Iran also denies that.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
Sholem Aleichem
Allahu Akbar
D. Spencer Hines - 22 Jul 2007 15:53 GMT US general says Iran backs Iraqi Shi'ites and Sunnis
19 Apr 2007 By Kristin Roberts
WASHINGTON, April 19 (Reuters) - Iranian intelligence forces are supporting Sunni insurgents in Iraq, in addition to Shi'ites, to destabilize the country and tie U.S. forces down, a U.S. general said on Thursday.
The comments from Maj. Gen. Michael Barbero, deputy director for regional operations in the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, marked a further escalation in U.S. accusations against Iran's Shi'ite government.
"Detainees in American custody have indicated that Iranian intelligence operatives have given support to Sunni insurgents and then we've discovered some munitions in Baghdad neighborhoods which are largely Sunni that were manufactured in Iran," Barbero said. He did not give further details.
Asked why Iranian forces would support Sunnis, Barbero said they seek "to destabilize Iraq, tie us down. Pretty much the same strategic goals they have by supporting the Shia insurgents."
The United States has often said Iran provides weapons technology and training to Shi'ite militias in Iraq -- charges that Tehran denies. But over the past week, the U.S. military has begun to accuse Iran of supporting Sunnis as well.
The U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad first said Iranian intelligence agents were giving "some support" to Iraqi Sunnis, but he did not describe the kind of support.
Then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the top U.S. general, Gen. Peter Pace, said coalition forces in Afghanistan, to Iran's east, had intercepted Iranian weapons meant for the Sunni Taliban.
On Thursday, Iran said the accusation of providing weapons to the Taliban was "baseless," the semi-official Fars news agency reported.
Barbero said he did not know if Iranian intelligence agents were giving support to al Qaeda elements in Iraq as well.
U.S. forces in Iraq are holding five Iranians detained in a January raid. According to the United States, the Iranians are linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard networks that provide weapons to insurgents attacking U.S. troops. Iran says the five are diplomats and has demanded their release.
Charges that Iran is working against U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan by supporting insurgents have followed accusations by the United States and others that Tehran seeks nuclear weapons behind the cover of an energy program. Iran also denies that. --------------------------------------------------------
Spot On!
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
J Antero - 22 Jul 2007 16:40 GMT > While Pogue J. Gans continues to anserinely bleat and bovinely rant as > follows: <snip> The best thing Bush has done for the people who commited mass murder in the US on Sep., 11, 2001, was to divert US resources and attention into setting loose a sectarian conflict in Iraq, and then flailing around blindly and stupidly in the middle of it.
We could take 10 pct of the resources we have deployed in the Iraqi sectarian / ethnic war, concentrate on the real al qaeda, and do ourselves far more good.
Bush, after presenting souvenir Presidential coins to families of KIAs: "don’t go sell it on eBay", November, 2003.
"As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself -- not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel." --George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006. Meeting with a soldier who lost both legs in Iraq: "He's a good man. We're going to get him some new legs, and if he hurries up, he can outrun me on the South Lawn of the White House." - President Bush, July 19, 2007, Nashville.
Do you have blacks, too? (To the president of Brazil). President GW Bush
Nebulous - 22 Jul 2007 17:03 GMT "J Antero" <ae@re.com> wrote in message news:nTKoi.10711
Beautiful Monikie BEAUTIFUL Monikie! with your trees and shrubberies green And your beautiful walks, most charming to be seen: 'Tis a beautiful place for pleasure-seekers to resort, Because there they can have innocent sport, Taking a leisure walk all round about, And see the ang1ers fishing in the pond for trout.
Besides, there's lovely white swans swimming on the pond, And Panmure Monument can be seen a little distance beyond; And the scenery all round is enchanting I declare, While sweet-scented fragrance fills the air.
Then away, pleasure-seekers of bonnie Dundee, And have a day's outing around Monikie, And inhale the pure air, on a fine summer day, Which will help to drive dull care away; As ye gaze on the beautiful scenery there, Your spirits will feel o'erjoyed and free frozen care.
Then near to the pond there's a beautiful green sward, Where excursionists can dance until fatigue does them retard; And if they feel thirsty, the Monikie water's near by, Where they can quench their thirst if very dry.
Then, after that, they can have a walk at their ease, Amongst the green shrubbery and tall pine trees; And in the centre of the pand they can see Three beautiful little islets dressed in green livery.
Monikie is as bonnie a place as ye could wish to see, And about eleven or twelve miles from bonnie Dundee; It's the only place I know of to enjoy a holiday, Because there's a hall of shelter there to keep the rain away.
Then there's a large park, a very suitable place, For the old and the young, if they wish to try a race; It's there they can enjoy themselves during the live-long summer day, Near to the little purling burn, meandering on its way, And emptying itself into the pond of Monikie, Which supplies the people with water belonging to Dundee,
Tiglath - 23 Jul 2007 19:46 GMT > Bush, after presenting souvenir Presidential coins to families of KIAs: "don't > go sell it on eBay", November, 2003. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Do you have blacks, too? (To the president of Brazil). President GW Bush When he jokes he is a bigger embarrassment than when he is serious.
Nebulous - 24 Jul 2007 23:47 GMT "Tiglath" <temp5@tiglath.net> wrote in message
An All Night Sea Fight Ye sons of Mars, come list to me, And I will relate to ye A great and heroic naval fight, Which will fill your hearts with delight.
The fight was between the French Frigate "Pique" and the British Frigate "Blanche," But the British crew were bold and staunch; And the battle was fought in West Indian waters in the year of 1795, And for to gain the victory the French did nobly strive.
And on the morning of the 4th of January while cruising off Gadulope, The look-out man from the foretop loudly spoke, And cried, "Sail ahoy!" "Where away ?" "On the lee bow, close in shore, sir," was answered without delay.
Then Captain Faulkner cried, "Clear the decks!" And the French vessel with his eyeglass he inspects; And he told his men to hoist the British flag, And "prepare my heroes to pull down that French rag."
Then the "Blanche" made sail and bore away In the direction of the "Pique" without delay; And Captain Fauikner cried, "Now, my lads, bear down on him, And make ready quickly and begin."
It was about midnight when the Frenchman hove in sight, And could be seen distinctly in the starlight; And for an hour and a half they fired away Broadsides into each other without dismay.
And with tne rapid flashes the Heavens were aflame, As each volley from the roaring cannons came; And the incessant roll of musketry was awful to hear, As it broke over the silent sea and smote upon the ear.
The French vessel had nearly 400 men, Her decks were literally crowded from stem to stern; And the musketeers kept up a fierce fire on the " Blanche," But still the "Blanche" on them did advance.
And the "Blanche's" crew without dismay Fired a broadside into the "Pique" without delay, Which raked her fore and aft, and knocked her to smash, And the mizzen mast fell overboard with a terrible crash.
Then the Frenohmen rushed forward to board the "Blanche," But in doing so they had a very poor chance, For the British Tars in courage didn't lack, Because thrice in succession on their own deck they were driven back.
Then "Brave, my lads!" Captain Faulkner loudly cries, "Lash her bowsprit to our capstan, she's our prize"; And he seized some ropes to lash round his foe, But a musket ball pierced his heart and laid him low.
Then a yell of rage burst from the noble crew, And near to his fallen body they drew; And tears for his loss fell fast on the deck, Their grief was so great their tears they conldn 't check.
The crew was very sorry for their captain's downfall, But the sight didn't their brave hearts appall; Because they fastened the ropes to the "Pique" at the capstan, And the "Pique" was dragged after the "Blanche," the sight was grand.
Yet the crew of the "Pique" maintained the fight, Oh! most courageously they fought in the dead of night; And for two hours they kept up firing without dismay, But it was a sacrifice of human life, they had to give way.
And about five o'clock in the morning the French cried for quarter, Because on board there had been a great slaughter; Their Captain Consail was mortally wounded in the fight Along with many officers and men; oh! it was a heartrending sight To see the wounded and dead weltering in their gore After the cannonading had ceased and the fighting was o'er.
D. Spencer Hines - 22 Jul 2007 19:55 GMT Iran's support for Al Qaeda and the Sunni Insurgency in Iraq is NOTHING NEW.
Yes, Virginia, Iranian Shiites and Iraqi Sunnis ARE working together against American National Security Interests in the CENTCOM area of responsibility -- contra this sort of gibberish we have seen on AHB, et alia, newsgroups from the serial prevaricator and poacher-out-of-field -- as in the following balderdash et codswallop from said amusing academic...
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult -------------------------------------------------------------------------
"It has been all over the news lately. According to "highly placed sources" Iran is funding and supplying al Qaeda in Iraq and the Taliban in Afghanistan."
"I am serious. The Administration is as ignorant as ever (which is what you get when you hire on the basis of political loyalty) or they are lying (again)."
"...Don't believe that crap that Iran is buddies with al Qaeda. One is Sunni, the other Shi'a. One group is Persian, the other primariy [sic] Arab."
"They HATE each other."
Paul J. Gans -- 6/25/07 --------------------------------------------------------
Au Contraire...
From 2004:
FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
Iran supporting al-Qaida terror U.S. military, intelligence services now certain Tehran backing Iraq Islamists tied to bin Laden --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: November 8, 2004
Editor's note: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is an online, subscription intelligence news service from the creator of WorldNetDaily.com – a journalist who has been developing sources around the world for almost 30 years.
WorldNetDaily.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Iran is covertly supporting al-Qaida-aligned terrorists in Iraq, not just anti-American Shiite insurgents, U.S. defense and intelligence sources say with certainty.
The acknowledgment of the long-held suspicion as certainty raises the stakes in Iraq and the Persian Gulf as President Bush begins his second term and Iran, with its nuclear aspirations, moves to the front burner as an international crisis in the making.
According to Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, al-Qaida-linked terrorists have been observed moving supplies and new recruits from Iran to Iraq, say the sources. While it has long been known Iran was backing the uprising led by Moqtada al-Sadr in the southern Shiite region of Iraq, the Iranian ties to Sunni Islamist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a terrorist leader who has pledged his allegiance to Osama bin Laden, has not been certain.
The development is potentially explosive given the standoff between Iran and the West over its nuclear program and the mullah regime's desire to build nuclear weapons. It was Iraq's flirtation with weapons of mass destruction and support of terrorism that provided the impetus for the U.S.-led invasion and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime.
Iran no longer even denies that elements of Ansar al-Islam, an affiliate of al-Qaida, entered the country from Afghanistan following the U.S.-led invasion of that nation in 2001. Iran claims it offered no assistance to the group.
But some senior al-Qaida operatives who were among those fleeing to Iran after the Afghanistan war may have developed a working relationship with the Revolutionary Guards, a special military unit in Iran linked to Tehran's mullah government, say U.S. military and intelligence sources.
The 9-11 commission also found contacts between Iranian security officials and senior al-Qaida figures and found evidence that eight to 10 of the Sept. 11 hijackers passed through Iranian territory.
BINGO! -- DSH
Iraq and Iran share an 800-mile border. U.S. officials say terrorists who cross over into Iraq from Iran most often head for Mosul, the largest Arab Sunni Muslim city in the north and an area where Islamic extremist groups are powerful. Others have been tracked going to Fallujah, now surrounded and sealed off by U.S. Marines who are expected to storm the city at any moment.
Links between Iran and al-Qaida are nothing new, however, the fact that the connections are now being taken seriously by U.S. senior officials who recognize the impact they are having on the ground in Iraq is explosive.
Back in June, former CIA analyst Douglas MacEachin, a member of the 9-11 commission staff, said Iran and its terrorist group ally Hezbollah were linked to the al-Qaida terrorist group.
Other U.S. intelligence officials said there is also evidence Iran is linked to the Sept. 11 attacks. According to the officials, two of the hijackers, Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar, who were aboard the aircraft that hit the Pentagon, had stayed at the Iranian ambassador's residence in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, before entering the United States in January 2001.
BINGO! -- DSH
MacEachin disclosed that the Iran-al-Qaida ties were revealed in the 1996 bombing of the Khobar Towers residence complex that housed U.S. military personnel in Saudi Arabia. The bombing killed 19 Americans.
BINGO! -- DSH
U.S. intelligence agencies mistakenly assumed then that, since a Shiite group was involved, rival Sunnis were not, he said. That's a mistake senior defense and intelligence officials are no longer making.
However The New York Times, as well as its avid reader, the Little Old Schlockmeister of Washington Square [AKA, the Serial Prevaricator] are still making said gross mistakes of judgement concerning Iranian Shia terrorist and Iraqi Sunni terrorist ties. -- DSH
Iran's links with al-Qaida go back to at least 1995 when an Egyptian member of bin Laden's group, Mustafa Hamid, visited Tehran. He is believed to have met with representatives of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards to discuss cooperation – cooperation that now appears to be a matter of fact.
Between the middle of 1996 and the end of 1998, 10 percent of all of bin Laden's outgoing satellite phone calls were to Iran, say U.S. sources.
Hmmmmmmmm... -- DSH
In October 2000, Ali Muhammad, in testimony before the Southern District for New York federal court, described setting up meetings in the early 1990s between bin Laden and Imad Mughniyeh of Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed terrorist group.
Hmmmmmmmm... -- DSH
Bin Laden's No. 2 in al-Qaida, Ayman al-Zawahiri, was the long-time leader of Egypt's Islamic Jihad, which had extensive ties to Iran. Al-Zawahiri traveled frequently to Iran in the 1990s, and he is believed to have been one of the masterminds of the Sept. 11 attacks.
BINGO! -- DSH
According to a European intelligence official, Mughniyeh, who reports directly to Iranian intelligence, met in Mashad, Iran, with a senior Iranian intelligence official and a "top deputy to Saddam Hussein in charge of intelligence matters," to discuss cooperation with bin Laden. This meeting reportedly took place the month after the Sept. 11 terror attacks on the U.S.
Hmmmmmmmm... -- DSH
President Bush warned that any nation cooperating with al-Qaida would become an enemy of the U.S. In fact, in 2002, he singled out Iran for special attention.
"(Iran) must be with us or against us in the war against terrorism and make no attempt to destabilize the interim Afghan government," he said. "Iran must be a contributor in the war against terror; our nation and our fight against terror will uphold the doctrine, either you're with us or against us; and any nation that thwarts our ability to rout terror out where it exists will be held to account, one way or the other. ... If they (Iranians) are trying – if they in any way, shape or form – try to destabilize the government (of Afghanistan), the coalition ... we'll deal with them, in diplomatic ways, initially."
BINGO! "Initially"... -- DSH
U.S. officials in the Pentagon and intelligence services are now convinced Iran is actively undermining the occupation of Iraq – and doing so through direct collaboration with al-Qaida forces.
BINGO!...
All this above revealed publicly in 2004.
The Serial Prevaricator simply hasn't caught up yet...
Then there is the Ingrained Malice Aforethought issue, because of his Congenital, Dyed-In-The Wool Bush Hatred.
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult
Allahu Akbar
Sholem Aleichem
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