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History Forum / General / British History / July 2007Re: In the Wake of the Plague Norman F. Cantor c 2001
Norman Cantor's biggest problem at NYU was that he was a brilliant, sensible, America-loving, Conservative Jew, born in Canada. In his era, NYU preferred well-rounded, mediocre "Liberal" Jews who would feel at home there. Cantor was so brilliant he was granted a full-ticket ride, all expenses paid, to a Ph.D. in Mediaeval History at Princeton, in 1951 -- even with his rather obscure background. Cantor describes himself as a "Canadian Jewish cowboy" from his father's small ranch near St. Laurent, in the Interlake District of Central Manitoba. His undergraduate school, United College, was heavily influenced by the ideas of its Methodist and Presbyterian founders. Cantor understood Protestants and absorbed their values and priorities. They never forgave him for his Conservative views at the very Left-Wing NYU and distrusted him because he did not share their prejudices towards the Establishment -- but had different ones. Cantor was certainly NOT a militant Left-Wing Jewish atheist, as were so many of his colleagues at NYU -- and that put him out of step with the herd. See Cantor's own _Inventing Norman Cantor: Confessions of a Medievalist_ 2002 for details and explications -- a fascinating read. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Deus Vult Sholem Aleichem > Cantor was so brilliant he was granted a full-ticket ride, all > expenses paid, to a Ph.D. in Mediaeval History at Princeton, in 1951 > -- even with his rather obscure background. Cantor was a student of Joseph Strayer 20 year Chair of the History Department and controller of all financial aid. Supporting your own students was a Chair's "perk" Cantor certainly had to be willing to study Medieval history to get the free ride. he himself chose medieval studies, Cantor reveals, only because his college advisor, “chuckling” (!), told him there was “little competition for student money in that obscure field and a dearth of entering students” (8). http://www.perspicuitas.uni-essen.de/rezens/rez_verduin.pdf Vince <G> Vincent Brannigan sounds envious. Vide infra. Dr. Norman Cantor is a Master of the Well-Turned Personal Anecdote, often self-effacing. There was also a congenital prejudice against Jews in Ivy League History Departments in the 1940's and 50's, where Anglo-Saxon dons ruled the roost. Cantor was one of the first to break down those unjust barriers. John Morton Blum, who taught me 20th Century American Politics and Culture at Yale, was another. Both men deserve plaudits and kudos for that. Joseph Strayer, at Princeton, also did very useful work for the CIA and NSC. DSH "D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:... > Norman Cantor's biggest problem at NYU was that he was a brilliant, > sensible, America-loving, Conservative Jew, born in Canada. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Sholem Aleichem ---------------------------------------- > Cantor was a student of Joseph Strayer 20 year Chair of the History > Department and controller of all financial aid. Supporting your own [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Vince > <G> > > Vincent Brannigan sounds envious. Vide infra. > > Dr. Norman Cantor is a Master of the Well-Turned Personal Anecdote, often > self-effacing. Not any more he isn't.  SignatureWilliam Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. On Jul 23, 4:38 pm, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > <G> > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach > Time for tea. Nonsense... Norman Cantor's historical works live on after his earthly death -- as is true of any Real Mediaeval Historian, et alii -- and they contain a number of Well-Turned Personal Anecdotes -- which can be savored at leisure by the intelligent, educated, sensitive reader -- the Cognoscenti.... I'll bet his lectures did too. William, you don't even have any children either, do you? Legitimate ones, old sot. William is a confirmed British Socialist Atheist and thinks it all ends with his death -- a very short-sighted and selfish attitude. DSH >> <G> >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Not any more he isn't. > Nonsense... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > DSH Feel free to prove the converse Arrivederci Vince > <G> > > Vincent Brannigan sounds envious. Vide infra. not at all I decided to study Law rather than History after my BA. But we all knew how the system worked > Dr. Norman Cantor is a Master of the Well-Turned Personal Anecdote, often > self-effacing. > > There was also a congenital prejudice against Jews in Ivy League History > Departments in the 1940's and 50's, where Anglo-Saxon dons ruled the roost. Irish Catholics also had problems, and women were unknown there was affirmative action for second tier protestant white males from prominent families. Bush and Gore fit that bill Vince > Irish Catholics also had problems, and women were unknown Yes, that's quite true, in the main. Thankfully, we changed all that. > there was affirmative action for second tier protestant white males from > prominent families. > > Bush and Gore fit that bill Nope. They both became politicians ---- not Ivy League History professors. Vince loses the thread again. DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas [...] >> There was also a congenital prejudice against Jews in Ivy League History >> Departments in the 1940's and 50's, where Anglo-Saxon dons ruled the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Vince >> Irish Catholics also had problems, and women were unknown > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Vince Both were accepted to Ivy league colleges based on family connections Vince Norman Cantor has been VERY candid in discussing various issues of Academic Politics and Various Scandals -- Financial & Personal at New York University. He does this in the aforementioned book -- _Inventing Norman Cantor: Confessions of a Medievalist_ 2002, which is well-written and a delight to read. It's an Academic Biography of the first water that pulls no punches. So, it's not surprising at all that he still has many enemies at NYU and stirs up hatred in those quarters even though he died in 2004. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cantor> DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Hilarious! Pogue Swain has now become Gans's abject apologist and lickspittle lackey in fond hopes that Gans will help him find a tenure-track academic position after Swain completes his mini-doctoral studies at No-Name U. How Sweet It Is! Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this. Enjoy! One thing that Gans DOES do extremely well is to provide... Great Entertainment! DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Deus Vult Norman Cantor has been VERY candid in discussing various issues of Academic Politics and Various Scandals -- Financial & Personal at New York University. He does this in the aforementioned book -- _Inventing Norman Cantor: Confessions of a Medievalist_ 2002, which is well-written and a delight to read. It's an Academic Biography of the first water that pulls no punches. So, it's not surprising at all that Cantor still has many enemies at NYU and stirs up hatred in those quarters, even though he died in 2004. Norman Cantor quite literally talked out of school -- so many at NYU, including Gans, want to discredit him. It's similar in some aspects to the consuming Bush-Hatred of the same people -- Left-Wingers in Academia. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cantor> DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Hilarious! Pogue Swain has now become Gans's abject apologist and lickspittle lackey in fond hopes that Gans will help him find a tenure-track academic position after Swain completes his mini-doctoral studies at No-Name U. How Sweet It Is! Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this. Enjoy! One thing that Gans DOES do extremely well is to provide... Great Entertainment! DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Deus Vult Hilarious! Pogue Swain has now become Gans's abject apologist and lickspittle lackey in fond hopes that Gans will help him find a tenure-track academic position after Swain completes his mini-doctoral studies at No-Name U. How Sweet It Is! Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this. Enjoy! One thing that Gans and his lickspittle lackeys DO do extremely well is to provide... Great Entertainment! DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Deus Vult |
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