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D. Spencer Hines - 27 Dec 2007 16:41 GMT
We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for all
our cars.

They are very fast, competent, efficient and not unreasonably priced.

They have excellent maps too -- for the cognoscienti who prefer good maps to
generally inadequate GPS systems...

As well as discounts at motels, et al.

Expanding acronyms on first use in a thread is just common sense.

So EVERYONE knows what they are.

Of course there are always cunniculan-pygan little pogues and poguettes
without the law who think it gives them a feeling of power and omniscience
if THEY know what an acronym stands for and others don't.

So, they constantly throw acronyms around.

Amusing...

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Deus Vult
D. Spencer Hines - 27 Dec 2007 16:55 GMT
Good...

RAC is better than AA?  "Royal" no less...

We probably have folks here who belong to both.

What's the expansion on the German ADAC?

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

> RAC Royal Automobile club
> http://www.royalautomobileclub.co.uk/guestarea/home.asp
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>
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Expand the acronyms.
>>
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>>>>>> days anyway,  unless the 'Young Gentleman' (or his father) was a full
>>>>>> member :-)

>>>>> Rubbish. Father-in-law was with the RAC and his bus-driver father
>>>>> never owned a car.
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>>> I find Britannia Rescue turns up well within the advertized 40 minutes,
>>> does the job and goes away.
Deirdre Sholto Douglas - 27 Dec 2007 17:08 GMT
> We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for all
> our cars.
>
> They are very fast, competent, efficient and not unreasonably priced.

In these parts the AAA contractors are overwhelmed and over-
booked...they're the freebie towing and jump service after all,
so they arrive at the speed of a spavined snail.  However, the
motor club is "fast, competent [and] efficient" at expense re-
imbursement for those who "go outside the AAA network"....
and "completely refunded" is a very reasonable price in my
world. :-)  

> They have excellent maps too -- for the cognoscienti who prefer good maps to
> generally inadequate GPS systems...

I have to admit, their "TripTix" (do they still have them?) were a
godsend back in the days of overly youthful navigators.

Deirdre
Bryn - 27 Dec 2007 17:28 GMT
Needing no introduction "an" Usenet stalwart wrote:
>We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for all
>our cars.
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>
>So, they constantly throw acronyms around.

Diddums feeling left out then?

magnorum periculorum metus ex ostentis portenditur

>Amusing...
>
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>
>Deus Vult

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Oleg Lego - 27 Dec 2007 18:01 GMT
>We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for all
>our cars.
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>
>Expanding acronyms on first use in a thread is just common sense.

OK. So what's a "GPS system"?

>So EVERYONE knows what they are.
>
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>
>DSH

What's a "DSH"?

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Ilya Sonobavich Yugotanastikov - 27 Dec 2007 19:31 GMT
>>We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for all
>>our cars.
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>
>What's a "DSH"?

DSH (like AAA and GPS) is an abbreviation, not an acronym (Pogue Hines
can't be expected to know the difference).

It stands for:

Diagnostic and Statistical Handbook [of Mental Disorders]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_of_Mental_Disorders

#301.81 is the one you are looking for.

You would know this if you had read my widely advertised book.

Ilya Sonobavich Yugotanastikov
J A - 28 Dec 2007 00:53 GMT
> We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for all
> our cars.
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> They have excellent maps too -- for the cognoscienti who prefer good maps to
> generally inadequate GPS systems...

A waste of money for people who can afford reliable vehicles and
aren't constantly running out of gas.

They're probably like the NRA - non-stop spam and and junk mail - all
of it for overpriced junk and bogus insurance policies.
D. Spencer Hines - 28 Dec 2007 01:25 GMT
No...

DSH

On Dec 27, 9:41 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:

> We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for
> all our cars.
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> to
> generally inadequate GPS systems...

A waste of money for people who can afford reliable vehicles and
aren't constantly running out of gas.

They're probably like the NRA - non-stop spam and and [sic] junk mail - all
of it for overpriced junk and bogus insurance policies.
TMOliver - 28 Dec 2007 15:34 GMT
> On Dec 27, 9:41 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>
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> all
> of it for overpriced junk and bogus insurance policies.

I must agree.....  Any organization which spends as much as AAA on mailing
costs is selling "smooth cons" not service.

I'm one of DSH's cognoscenti when it comes to maps,  a collector of same,
but find that in every state (and many large cities)  I 've ever contacted
(easily, by email), the tourist or transportation departments will mail you
more than adequate maps, free.  These days, fine commercial road atlases are
commercially available for most states, and downloads of local area maps
seem widely available.

As for "generally inadequate" GPS systems, my "el cheapo" gifted example
seems a step above adequate, far better'n a poke in the eye with a sharp
stick.  It's compact and fits in a corner of my carry-on, deployable in
every remote corner of the US, motorized, afoot or in above ground public
transport.  As for subways, they've all convenient if occasionally
misleading route diagrams in every station and on the wall of most cars.

In recent memory, since 1989 at least, operating at least 3 vehicles during
much of the time, I've had one "breakdown", a failed "chip" in an '89
LeSabre still in warranty.  It happened coming out of a local restaurant one
evening about 10PM.  There was nothing AAA could have done but send a tow
truck.  Why pay for an unneeded service?  The Buick dealer could send one by
manana's early light.  It's been at least 25 years since I've changed a
tire, and that after a blowout on the highway, 1981 or so, South of Wolfe
City, when one of  the Uniroyals on a "company car" decided to do as
Uniroyals of the time too often did, throw a tread...

Worrying about "auto service" when away from home (or close to home) is one
of those slightly paranoid symptoms which in other manifestations cause
folks to buy cramped cars of inadequate performance and capacity to save
$500 a year on gas.  Save the money spent on auto club dues to piss away on
entertainment, buy a big hulking comfortable vehicle capable of hauling off
Aunt Delilah's antiques after her funeral (plus a few of the pallbearers),
and write off the extra gasoline expense as part of the cost of comfort,
convenience and safety to life and health on the inevitable day that some
blivet accidentally rams you as you roll down the road.

TMO
Peter Skelton - 28 Dec 2007 15:38 GMT
>> On Dec 27, 9:41 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:
>>
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>misleading route diagrams in every station and on the wall of most cars.
>. . .

One accessory to the not very expensive pocket camera I recieved
for Christmas is a GPS device. It writes where each picture is
taken on the stick, the included display software shows where
each was taken on a map. Click on the marker and up comes the
picture. A great time-waster with possible practical uses
teaching, debriefing and such-like.

Peter Skelton
D. Spencer Hines - 28 Dec 2007 17:01 GMT
Great Time Waster, Aye...

DSH

> One accessory to the not very expensive pocket camera I recieved
> for Christmas is a GPS device. It writes where each picture is
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>
> Peter Skelton
Deirdre Sholto Douglas - 28 Dec 2007 16:05 GMT
>There was nothing AAA could have done but send a tow
> truck.  Why pay for an unneeded service?  

Because those of us with younger drivers in the family
feel better if we know the Recombinant DNA has the
ability to call for roadside assistance.

Deirdre
D. Spencer Hines - 28 Dec 2007 17:45 GMT
Indeed...

My wife and I pay a mere $120 a year for all the services of AAA and find it
well-worth the cost in terms of potential time and effort plus the discounts
available.

DSH

>>There was nothing AAA could have done but send a tow
>> truck.  Why pay for an unneeded service?
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>
> Deirdre
J A - 29 Dec 2007 02:41 GMT
> Indeed...
>
> My wife and I pay a mere $120 a year for all the services of AAA and find it
> well-worth the cost in terms of potential time and effort plus the discounts
> available.

Put the money towards getting a reliable car with a working gas
gauge...
D. Spencer Hines - 29 Dec 2007 03:30 GMT
Totally irrelevant.

DSH

On Dec 28, 10:45 am, "D. Spencer Hines" <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote:

> Indeed...
>
> My wife and I pay a mere $120 a year for all the services of AAA and find
> it well-worth the cost in terms of potential time and effort plus the
> discounts available.

Put the money towards getting a reliable car with a working gas
gauge...
Paul J. Adam - 28 Dec 2007 16:52 GMT
>As for "generally inadequate" GPS systems, my "el cheapo" gifted example
>seems a step above adequate, far better'n a poke in the eye with a sharp
>stick.  It's compact and fits in a corner of my carry-on, deployable in
>every remote corner of the US, motorized, afoot or in above ground public
>transport.  As for subways, they've all convenient if occasionally
>misleading route diagrams in every station and on the wall of most cars.

My mobile phone has a GPS system, that worked remarkably well after a
wrong turn coming out of Bristol at 1630 recently. It's not as good as a
proper satnav for vehicle use, but for helping a passenger find an
alternative route it was a godsend.

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The Grammer Genious - 28 Dec 2007 03:21 GMT
> We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for
> all our cars.

I dropped AAA like a hot potato long ago when I realized they are a major
advocate and lobbyist for more and more asphalt, traffic, and stinking
exhaust. They work against my interests.
Tiglath - 29 Dec 2007 04:57 GMT
> We do quite nicely with the AAA [Automobile Association of America] for all
> our cars.
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> They have excellent maps too -- for the cognoscienti who prefer good maps to
> generally inadequate GPS systems...

Generally inadequate GPS systems?

???

Sometimes, Commander...

A quality GPS system is so much more than a map.   It works out
detours at the touch of a button, give you the best route base on
choice of shortest distance, shortest time, or maximizing freeway use,
or using a series of by-points, giving precise distances and times for
each option, as well as longitude and latitude for any point, a nice
touch if you go out at night with a telescope running from light
pollution.    Can you zoom in and out with a map?  From continent to
city block with GPS.   Can you find street numbers in a map,
precisely?   It's within 10 meter accuracy with GPS.

Only someone who has never had a GPS system -- a non-cognoscienti --
would be caught writing "Generally inadequate GPS systems."

Mr. HInes is in similar position here to those "famous" cognoscienti
of the Brockton Gas Company who mocked Edison for suggesting the whole
idea of incandescent electric lighting.

> Expanding acronyms on first use in a thread is just common sense.
>
> So EVERYONE knows what they are.

Abhorrent Avaloners Anonymous (AAA).
D. Spencer Hines - 29 Dec 2007 05:52 GMT
Great Time Waster, Aye...

Except for spies surveying the terrain.

Or explorers, et alii.

Puerile for Everyday Use...

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Exitus Acta Probat

> One accessory to the not very expensive pocket camera I recieved [sic]
> for Christmas is a GPS device. It writes where each picture is
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>
> Peter Skelton
 
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