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A Dying Man Can Do Nothing Easy

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D. Spencer Hines - 17 Apr 2008 18:29 GMT
"A dying man can do nothing easy."

-- Benjamin Franklin (after his daughter asked him to move,
17 April 1790)
Jack Linthicum - 17 Apr 2008 18:56 GMT
> "A dying man can do nothing easy."
>
> -- Benjamin Franklin (after his daughter asked him to move,
> 17 April 1790)

Not quite right, these are Franklin's dying words immediately preceded
by

A little while before, when one of his daughters expressed the hope
that he would recover, the pleurisy-wracked Franklin croaked "I hope
not!"

Hines never gets it right.
James Hogg - 17 Apr 2008 20:17 GMT
>"A dying man can do nothing easy."
>
>-- Benjamin Franklin (after his daughter asked him to move,
>17 April 1790)

"As a child prodigy, a sex symbol, a stud, a public intellectual, an
actor, an idol, the narcissist was at the centre of attention, the eye
of his personal twister, a black hole which sucked people's energy and
resources dry and spat out with indifference their mutilated
carcasses. No longer. With old age comes disillusionment. Old charms
wear thin.

It is the fable of the grasshopper and the ant revisited.

The narcissist - the grasshopper - having relied on supercilious
stratagems throughout his life, is singularly ill-adapted to life's
rigours and tribulations. He feels entitled, but fails to elicit
Narcissistic Supply. Wrinkled time makes child prodigies lose their
magic, lovers exhaust their potency, philanderers waste their allure,
and geniuses lose their touch. The longer the narcissist lives, the
more average he becomes. The wider the gulf between his pretensions
and his accomplishments, the more he is the object of derision and
contempt."

from
Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited
by Sam Vaknin

brought to you by James Hogg
Vlad the Emailer - 21 Apr 2008 21:07 GMT
>>"A dying man can do nothing easy."
>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Malignant Self Love: Narcissism Revisited
> by Sam Vaknin

Interesting James.... yet 'Narcissism' implies a love of ones self, or at
least ones reflection, surely?

In this case it is very difficult to believe that either of those could be
possible, given the truly dismal and unattractive material involved? There
again, this is I suppose a mental aberration, so maybe it's a case of
'beauty' (or self-righteous insanity) being in the bleary eye of the
wizened, twisted, half-blind old beholder...?
James Hogg - 21 Apr 2008 21:25 GMT
>>>"A dying man can do nothing easy."
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>'beauty' (or self-righteous insanity) being in the bleary eye of the
>wizened, twisted, half-blind old beholder...?

Aye indeed, that's an interesting point you make, Vlad. I shall have
to consult the Russian expert Ilya Sonobavich Yugotanastikov on that
one.

James
95 Thesen - 23 Apr 2008 05:24 GMT
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:07:46 GMT, "Vlad the Emailer"
>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> James

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It's boggling to think that Ben Franklin was the most popular man
on the planet Earth on account of one invention:  the lightning rod.
Lightning must have been a fearful thing in an era without tall
buildings and high voltage power lines.

Cheers, David H
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jack Linthicum - 23 Apr 2008 11:22 GMT
> > On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:07:46 GMT, "Vlad the Emailer"
>
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
> Cheers, David H
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

He had really good press, the first scientist,  philosopher, lover and
statesman, sort of Henry Kissinger with an invention.
James Hogg - 23 Apr 2008 11:50 GMT
>He had really good press, the first scientist,  philosopher, lover and
>statesman, sort of Henry Kissinger with an invention.

Franklin had a really good press:
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Benjamin-Franklins-Printing-Press-Giclee-Print-
C12379262.jpeg


James
Jack Linthicum - 23 Apr 2008 13:35 GMT
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 03:22:43 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> James

Ever read the children's book "Ben and Me"?
Diogenes - 24 Apr 2008 02:20 GMT
>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:07:46 GMT, "Vlad the Emailer"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>Cheers, David H
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As a matter of fact, Ben Franklin was one of seventeen children. They
called >his< father "Old Lightning Rod".
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     The madmen come again . . . .
Horvath - 24 Apr 2008 08:18 GMT
>As a matter of fact, Ben Franklin was one of seventeen children. They
>called >his< father "Old Lightning Rod".

What did they call his mother?

       Horvath@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
James Hogg - 24 Apr 2008 08:37 GMT
>>As a matter of fact, Ben Franklin was one of seventeen children. They
>>called >his< father "Old Lightning Rod".
>
>What did they call his mother?

Old Tenderloin

James
Singanas@Texasgulfcoast - 27 Apr 2008 03:18 GMT
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:18:51 -0400, Horvath
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> James

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I thumbed thru WHO'S WHO OF 2007 and found a
"Sir Piers Michael James Hogg."
His heir is listed a "James Hogg."
Any relation ?  A fourth cousin perhaps ?

If it be any pleasure for you, the Hoggs of Houston
(Ima, Will and Mike) were Anglican Communion.
I believe their father was a Judge James Hogg.

Cheers, David H
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
James Hogg - 27 Apr 2008 08:43 GMT
>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:18:51 -0400, Horvath
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>(Ima, Will and Mike) were Anglican Communion.
>I believe their father was a Judge James Hogg.

The name James runs in all branches of the family.
I feel a particular kinship with Ima Hogg,
combined with a profound sympathy.

James
Horvath - 27 Apr 2008 12:31 GMT
>The name James runs in all branches of the family.
>I feel a particular kinship with Ima Hogg,
>combined with a profound sympathy.

Was Ima Hogg your last girlfriend?  I think I remember her from high
school.

       Horvath@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
95 Thesen - 28 Apr 2008 11:17 GMT
> >The name James runs in all branches of the family.
> >I feel a particular kinship with Ima Hogg,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
> ultimate power in the universe."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Speaking of school days, it was the rumour in 1950's Texas
that Ima Hogg had a sister named Ura who died of a broken heart.
None of the Hogg children married, and the siblings lived together
for many years in Houston.  They created the Houston Symphony,
River Oaks housing estate, Bayou Bend park, Memorial Park, and
the Varner Hogg State park.  All because Judge Hogg smelled oil
seeping out of the ground at the old Varner plantation which he
purchased in the 19th C.  The children were raised there.  Ima
started playing the piano at age 3 and had a tone perfect ear for
music.

Cheers, David H
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Horvath - 27 Apr 2008 12:29 GMT
>I thumbed thru WHO'S WHO OF 2007 and found a
>"Sir Piers Michael James Hogg."
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>(Ima, Will and Mike) were Anglican Communion.
>I believe their father was a Judge James Hogg.

I remember a Boss Hogg, from a TV show.

       Horvath@Horvath.net

My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
 
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