Dana Milbank: "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom For Obama"
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D. Spencer Hines - 29 Apr 2008 06:27 GMT "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"...
Hmmmmmmm...
I Reckon So...
A Brief Sampling...
"His views on Farrakhan and Israel? "Louis said 20 years ago that Zionism, not Judaism, was a gutter religion. He was talking about the same thing United Nations resolutions say, the same thing now that President Carter's being vilified for and Bishop Tutu's being vilified for."
"And everybody wants to paint me as if I'm anti-Semitic because of what Louis Farrakhan said 20 years ago. He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century; that's what I think about him. . . . Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color."
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Deus Vult ---------------------------------------------
Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama
Dana Milbank The Washington Post
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, explaining this morning why he had waited so long before breaking his silence about his incendiary sermons, offered a paraphrase from Proverbs: "It is better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
HILARIOUS! But that's just what Pastor Wright has NOT DONE. -- DSH
Barack Obama's pastor would have been wise to continue to heed that wisdom.
INDEED... -- DSH
Should it become necessary in the months from now to identify the moment that doomed Obama's presidential aspirations, attention is likely to focus on the hour between nine and ten this morning at the National Press Club. It was then that Wright, Obama's longtime pastor, reignited a controversy about race from which Obama had only recently recovered - and added lighter fuel.
Speaking before an audience that included Marion Barry, Cornel West, Malik Zulu Shabazz of the New Black Panther Party and Nation of Islam official Jamil Muhammad, Wright praised Louis Farrakhan, defended the view that Zionism is racism, accused the United States of terrorism, repeated his view that the government created the AIDS virus to cause the genocide of racial minorities, stood by other past remarks ("God damn America") and held himself out as a spokesman for the black church in America.
In front of 30 television cameras, Wright's audience cheered him on as the minister mocked the media and, at one point, did a little victory dance on the podium. It seemed as if Wright, jokingly offering himself as Obama's vice president, was actually trying to doom Obama; a member of the head table, American Urban Radio's April Ryan, confirmed that Wright's security was provided by bodyguards from Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.
SO NOTED... -- DSH
Wright suggested that Obama was insincere in distancing himself from his pastor. "He didn't distance himself," Wright announced. "He had to distance himself, because he's a politician, from what the media was saying I had said, which was anti-American."
Explaining further, Wright said friends had written to him and said, "We both know that if Senator Obama did not say what he said, he would never get elected." The minister continued: "Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls."
So Barak was LYING and INSINCERELY DISSEMBLING? -- DSH
Wright also argued, at least four times over the course of the hour, that he was speaking not for himself but for the black church.
We'll HEAR and SEE from "The Black Church" tomorrow. -- DSH
"This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright," the minister said. "It is an attack on the black church." He positioned himself as a mainstream voice of African American religious traditions. "Why am I speaking out now?" he asked. "If you think I'm going to let you talk about my mama and her religious tradition, and my daddy and his religious tradition and my grandma, you got another thing [sic] coming."
That significantly complicates Obama's job as he contemplates how to extinguish Wright's latest incendiary device. Now, he needs to do more than express disagreement with his former pastor's view; he needs to refute his former pastor's suggestion that Obama privately agrees with him.
Wright seemed aggrieved that his inflammatory quotations were out of the full "context" of his sermons -- yet he repeated many of the same accusations in the context of a half-hour Q&A session this morning.
YEP... -- DSH
His claim that the September 11 attacks mean "America's chickens are coming home to roost"?
Wright defended it: "Jesus said, 'Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.' You cannot do terrorism on other people and expect it never to come back on you. Those are biblical principles, not Jeremiah Wright bombastic divisive principles."
His views on Farrakhan and Israel? "Louis said 20 years ago that Zionism, not Judaism, was a gutter religion. He was talking about the same thing United Nations resolutions say, the same thing now that President Carter's being vilified for and Bishop Tutu's being vilified for. And everybody wants to paint me as if I'm anti-Semitic because of what Louis Farrakhan said 20 years ago. He is one of the most important voices in the 20th and 21st century; that's what I think about him. . . . Louis Farrakhan is not my enemy. He did not put me in chains, he did not put me in slavery, and he didn't make me this color."
He denounced those who "can worship God on Sunday morning, wearing a black clergy robe, and kill others on Sunday evening, wearing a white Klan robe."
He praised the communist Sandinista regime of Nicaragua. He renewed his belief that the government created AIDS as a means of genocide against people of color ("I believe our government is capable of doing anything").
And he vigorously renewed demands for an apology for slavery: "Britain has apologized to Africans. But this country's leaders have refused to apologize. So until that apology comes, I'm not going to keep stepping on your foot and asking you, does this hurt, do you forgive me for stepping on your foot, if I'm still stepping on your foot. Understand that? Capisce?"
Capisce, reverend. All too well. -------------------------------------------------------------
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Ray O'Hara - 29 Apr 2008 06:49 GMT > "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"... like you , wright was a navy man, but unlike you he recieved an honorable discharge and he was personally commended by LBJ.
a425couple - 29 Apr 2008 15:25 GMT > "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"... > Dana Milbank The Washington Post Big snip to take it down to one question.
> Wright praised Louis Farrakhan, defended the view that --, > repeated his view that the government created the AIDS > virus to cause the genocide of racial minorities, How clearly has he stated this? That claim has always just struck me as "looney tunes". (yeah, right, we created something, that easily crosses all "racial" barriers, just so we can spend many millions on mitigating it's effects in USA, abroad, and especially in southern Africa ((as if they did not have enough problems already)) ).
Don T - 29 Apr 2008 17:09 GMT >> "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"... >> Dana Milbank The Washington Post [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > How clearly has he stated this? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rev.+wright+aids+virus&btnG=Google+Search
> That claim has always just struck me as "looney tunes". > (yeah, right, we created something, that easily > crosses all "racial" barriers, just so we can spend > many millions on mitigating it's effects in USA, > abroad, and especially in southern Africa > ((as if they did not have enough problems already)) ).
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Dr. James West, Ph.D. - 29 Apr 2008 17:38 GMT >>> "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"... >>> Dana Milbank The Washington Post [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> How clearly has he stated this? The video of Wright on Larry King Live yesterday are available to watch online.
Best of all, IMHO, is Wright's speech at the Detroit NAACP. CNN showed the entire speech, and the video is online somewhere. It's 32 minutes.
The man is an excellent speaker and my kind of Christian. God bless him.
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rev.+wright+aids+virus&btnG=Google+Search > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> abroad, and especially in southern Africa >> ((as if they did not have enough problems already)) ). fnijndf3y@nospam.net - 29 Apr 2008 18:43 GMT In <Atmdnd0ierzt04rvnz2dnuvz_jgdnz2d@toastnet>, on 04/29/2008 at 09:38 AM, "Dr. James West, Ph.D." <nada@nobull.com> said:
>>>> "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"... >>>> Dana Milbank The Washington Post [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>> >>> How clearly has he stated this?
>The video of Wright on Larry King Live yesterday are available to watch >online.
>Best of all, IMHO, is Wright's speech at the Detroit NAACP. CNN showed >the entire speech, and the video is online somewhere. It's 32 minutes.
>The man is an excellent speaker and my kind of Christian. God bless him. Yup. I loved the answer about is he patriotic; 'I served 6 years in the marines. How long did cheney serve?'
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rev.+wright+aids+virus&btnG=Google+Search >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >>> abroad, and especially in southern Africa >>> ((as if they did not have enough problems already)) ). Dr. James West, Ph.D. - 29 Apr 2008 18:44 GMT > Best of all, IMHO, is Wright's speech at the Detroit NAACP. CNN showed the > entire speech, and the video is online somewhere. It's 32 minutes. > > The man is an excellent speaker and my kind of Christian. God bless him. Complete speech of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright at the Freedom Fund dinner in Detroit http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/VIDEO01/80428107
fnijndf3y@nospam.net - 29 Apr 2008 17:54 GMT Try again. This time, first read the stuff you post claiming its proof.
>>> "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"... >>> Dana Milbank The Washington Post [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> >> How clearly has he stated this?
>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rev.+wright+aids+virus&btnG=Google+Search
>> That claim has always just struck me as "looney tunes". >> (yeah, right, we created something, that easily >> crosses all "racial" barriers, just so we can spend >> many millions on mitigating it's effects in USA, >> abroad, and especially in southern Africa >> ((as if they did not have enough problems already)) ). Dan - 30 Apr 2008 00:42 GMT >> "Wright's Voice Could Spell Doom for Obama"... >> Dana Milbank The Washington Post [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > abroad, and especially in southern Africa > ((as if they did not have enough problems already)) ). As opposed to the right-wing religious nutcases who insist Katrina and AIDS were acts of a vengeful deity-of-choice...
I'll take Rev. Wright any day, any time.
In dualling religious leaders - Democrats win hands down.
Dan
Ray O'Hara - 30 Apr 2008 01:39 GMT > > How clearly has he stated this? > > That claim has always just struck me as "looney tunes". [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Dan all religion is in the hands of extreme kooks. religion only survives due to habit
Dan - 30 Apr 2008 02:09 GMT >>> How clearly has he stated this? >>> That claim has always just struck me as "looney tunes". [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > all religion is in the hands of extreme kooks. > religion only survives due to habit I disagree. I personally do not believe, but some religious organizations and persons do good works. Not ALL religion is dedicated to the politics of destruction. Not even ALL "fundamentalist" religions are evil.
Dan
Singanas@Texasgulfcoast - 30 Apr 2008 11:45 GMT > >>> How clearly has he stated this? > >>> That claim has always just struck me as "looney tunes". [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Dan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>I am relieved to see the thread take this direction. >Some not very bright people in this group think that Reverend Wright's rhetoric defines the Obama candidacy.
I have no doubt that Obamba followed Wright's ministry for many years because this preacher is NOT DULL. He is engaging and he will not put you to sleep. The worst thing for a politician is that he be seen sleeping in a public venue. The simple fact is that an intellectual like Obama needed a LIVE WIRE in the pulpit in order not to be caught sleeping during African high mass.
But our mentally challenged Alt British brethren think that the map is the road.
Cheers, David H ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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