FREE SPEECH ON TRIAL - The 'Heretical.com Two'
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◄ iamthewitness.com ► - 01 Jun 2008 00:37 GMT FREE SPEECH ON TRIAL
‘Instead of – if I might put it this way – the man from Whitehall always knowing best, it is the woman from the WRVS or Sure Start or Community Service Volunteers or any of the NCVO organisations, that knows better.’ Gordon Brown Moving Britain Forward: Selected Speeches 1997-2006.
‘Some may call it a nanny state, but I call it a force for good.’ Margaret Hodge, 2004.
The trial of Simon Sheppard and his co-defendant, the columnist Luke O’Farrell, is to start on 2 June 2008 at Leeds Crown Court. The trial is expected to last 8-9 weeks.
Reporting restrictions are in place, so this news update is limited to some personal observations and opinions.
Sheppard has 18 charges, his co-defendant 5. The charges are unprecedented and comprise a major assault on our democratic right to express sincerely-held opinions, on the internet and elsewhere.
This is a political prosecution with a very strong Jewish element. One only needs to contrast the state’s eagerness to press multiple charges on the “Heretical Two” with its failure to prosecute Michael Levy, the other individuals involved in ‘Cash for Honours’, Peter Hain, David Abrahams and many others, who have in some cases admitted unlawful payments to the Labour Party.
A large number of the unlawful donors to the Labour Party have been Jews.
The instigators of the Heretical prosecution were Jewish and many of the complainants appear to be Jewish. It is criticism of Jewish behaviour and, in particular, exposure of their subversion of the political process, that this prosecution attempts to suppress. The weapon of suppression is legislation that was itself passed as a result of Jewish agitation.
The government is seeking to make any criticism of Jewish claims – even in the form of humour – “incitement to racial hatred.” Sheppard is philosophical: “Nothing is ever gained without cost. We are ahead of our time, and our conclusions are not appreciated by a government already in its death throes,” says Sheppard.
All of the material was believed to be lawful at the time it was posted on the Californian server or otherwise distributed, so the government is attempting a major advance in the suppression of political dissent. The state seeks to further impose its insane dogma on intellectual dissidents. It is the culmination of a Marxist revolution in slow motion, which has been in progress for several decades.
The prosecution will be fought very hard as we seek to defend the most basic freedom of all – the freedom to express an opinion. “Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear” (George Orwell).
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Ariadne - 01 Jun 2008 00:55 GMT > FREE SPEECH ON TRIAL Hate speech and lies on trial!
> http://heretical.com/ Jude Outta Your Mind - 01 Jun 2008 11:51 GMT >> FREE SPEECH ON TRIAL > > Hate speech and lies on trial! Abe Fucksmen is the defendant?
>> http://heretical.com/
 Signature However much I may worship personality-powerful individual personality in statesmen, inventors, artists, philosophers, or leaders, as well as the collective personality of a historic group of human beings, which we call a nation--however much I may worship personality, I do not regret its disappearance. Whoever can, will, and must perish, let him perish. But the distinctive nationality of Jews neither can, will, nor must be destroyed ~ Theodor Herzl, Father of Political Zionism
MikeinCamden@aol.com - 01 Jun 2008 11:52 GMT > > FREE SPEECH ON TRIAL > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > - Show quoted text - People who say things Ariadne does not like on trial!
Ariadne - 01 Jun 2008 11:57 GMT On 1 Jun, 11:52, MikeinCam...@aol.com wrote:
> > > FREE SPEECH ON TRIAL > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > People who say things Ariadne does not like on trial! Moron! Still worshipping at the Berlin bunker?
D2Zabcdef@googlemail.com - 12 Jul 2008 20:51 GMT 'Friday: The Muslim forewoman delivered the first verdicts. Sheppard has 10, O'Farrell 4 Guilty verdicts, all for pages on this website.' http://www.heretical.com
Holocaust denier convicted of trying to incite race hate online Published Date: 12 July 2008 By Rob Preece
A MAN who claims accounts of the Holocaust are "exaggerated" and describes Anne Frank's diary as "evil" has been convicted of putting articles on the internet that could stir up race hate.
A jury at Leeds Crown Court yesterday found Simon Sheppard, 51, guilty of nine counts of publishing racially inflammatory written material on his website between March 2005 and April 2006. The court heard Sheppard's website attracts 4,000 visitors a day.
Four of the articles were penned by Stephen Whittle, 41, who was yesterday convicted of four counts of publishing racially inflammatory written material.
The others included a cartoon by the American cartoonist Robert Crumb and an article written during the 1960s by the leader of the American Nazi Party, George Lincoln Rockwell.
Prosecutor Jonathan Sandiford told the jury that Sheppard and Whittle were a pair of racists who held what they may regard as fairly extreme views about people who were Jewish, black, Asian, Chinese, Indian and, in reality, anyone who wasn't white.
"People in this country are entitled to be racist and they are entitled to hold unpleasant points of view, but what they aren't entitled to do is publish or distribute written material which is insulting, threatening or abusive and is intended to stir up racial hatred or is likely to do so."
Both Sheppard, of Brook Street, Selby, and Whittle, of Avenham Lane, Preston, told the jury that the articles were an attempt to "satirise" political correctness.
Sheppard said: "You can't blame a Jewish person for being a Jew, you can't blame a black person for being black, and you can't blame a Yorkshireman for being forthright, which I am."
The hearing will enter its seventh week on Monday, when the jury of six men and five women return to court to resume deliberations on further charges.
Sheppard is awaiting verdicts on nine charges relating to the publication, possession and distribution of written material which could stir up racial hatred.
Whittle faces a charge of publishing racially inflammatory material. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/Holocaust-denier-convicted-of-trying.4282421.jp
Heretical.com hosts some of the most powerful nationalist articles in the world: http://www.heretical.com/ofarrell/
Kurt Knoll - 12 Jul 2008 21:56 GMT That's the way it is, Jews complain and we have to believe everything they say. The decision making what is right or wrong is in the Jewish hands and we have to do all the believing no questions asked. Do you know of any other race taht has that much power over all of us. Kurt Knoll.
> 'Friday: The Muslim forewoman delivered the first verdicts. Sheppard > has 10, O'Farrell 4 Guilty verdicts, all for pages on this website.' [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > the world: > http://www.heretical.com/ofarrell/ Kenneth McVay OBC - 14 Jul 2008 04:01 GMT In article <gU8ek.94547$gc5.11716@pd7urf2no>, The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll, the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat, polished his Pikelhaube, fluffed his Coal Black SS Totenkopf Tutu with Ehrenkreuz der Deutschen Mutter and <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>That's the way it is, Jews complain and we have to believe everything they >say. The decision making what is right or wrong is in the Jewish hands and >we have to do all the believing no questions asked. Do you know of any other >race taht has that much power over all of us. That's the way it is. Knolls complain, and hope we will be stupid enough to believe everything they say. The decision making about what is right and wrong, happily, is something that will never be in the hands of anyone as overtly stupid as Kurt Knoll and his brother "Refucked Werner." Do you know of any other moronic family that has so little power over anyone?
86 Statements Demonstrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's strict adherence to the high intellectual standards of Holocaust denial:
(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for the first 79) (Honest, Folks, I'm not making them up!)
80. "Wrong again. The Jews planed Palestine as their homeland since 18882. Straighten out your brain" <QaD2k.13594$C12.2431@pd7urf3no>, June 7, 2008 & <88F2k.13916$C12.12279@pd7urf3no>, June 8, 2008
81. "You will never succeed with your accusations and distraction because I never made this claim. I said this is what I first did hear, Can you tell the difference between what someone says and what he claims." <f134k.1534$kx.726@pd7urf3no>
82. "Ineresting Observation. What do libraries show others can not display ?. Your bunch of guys is a bunch of crooks we we know all the way." <6Nj6k.12528$kx.4075@pd7urf3no>, June 19, 2008
83. "Without being able to investigated you claims the whole show is absolutely useless." <9lc7k.44402$gc5.17951@pd7urf2no>, June 22, 2008
84. "The must have lived on a farm with no news paper and Radio. Could it be they did get German their information fro their live stock." <vQsak.45044$kx.26536@pd7urf3no>, July 1, 2008
85. "Somehow I think you have a couple of crew loos in you head. And I also wonder who created a misfit like you. You father or call him creator would have been better of masturbating." <Tuxak.71230$gc5.22495@pd7urf2no>, July 1, 2008
86. "You do have very primitive educating..." <IP8bk.53552$Jx.17394@pd7urf1no>, July 3, 2008
 Signature The Nizkor Project - An electronic Holocaust educational resource David Irving vrs. Deborah Lipstadt & Penguin Books Ltd: Judgment http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-00-00.html http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/libel.suit
Jude Outta Your Mind - 14 Jul 2008 04:08 GMT That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al Qaeda" doing 9/11. Tell us Kenneth, do you also defend that official lie?
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BDK - 14 Jul 2008 04:36 GMT > That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al Qaeda" > doing 9/11. Tell us Kenneth, do you also defend that official lie? So when will you kooks come up with something that proves it wrong?
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Jeffrey Hamilton - 14 Jul 2008 13:54 GMT >> That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al >> Qaeda" >> doing 9/11. Tell us Kenneth, do you also defend that official lie? > > So when will you kooks come up with something that >proves it wrong? Tell me twink, are you one of Kurt Knoll's *Sodemy Kommandos* ? Are you a friend of Unkle Ernst Zundel, a bunk-muffin perhaps ?
cheers.....Jeff
BDK - 14 Jul 2008 15:26 GMT > >> That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al > >> Qaeda" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > cheers.....Jeff Umm, what kook-aid have you been drinking? I'm being called a jew practically every day here, even though I'm not, but that never stopped a kooktard, does it, kooktard?
BTW, I was talking about 911. Just in case you were tripping about something else..
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Jeffrey Hamilton - 15 Jul 2008 15:26 GMT >> >> That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al >> >> Qaeda" [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > BTW, I was talking about 911. Just in case you were tripping about > something else.. Well lets have a look then. Are you or are you not a fan of Kurt Kroll ? If so, then _you_ are a *Sodemy Kommando* ! If not, then I suggest you learn how to edit your replies more carefully, too much snippage can make a post hard if not impossible to follow. Possibly _you_ are a kook magnet, why is that I wonder ?
cheers....Jeff
BDK - 15 Jul 2008 18:11 GMT > >> >> That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al > >> >> Qaeda" [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Well lets have a look then. > Are you or are you not a fan of Kurt Kroll ? Not hardly!
> If so, then _you_ are a *Sodemy Kommando* ! What are you babbling about?
How does one line give you such weird ideas?
> If not, then I suggest you learn how to edit your replies more carefully, > too much snippage can make a post hard if not impossible to follow. Nobody else seems to have difficulty.
> Possibly _you_ are a kook magnet, why is that I wonder ? LOL, maybe you could tell me?
> cheers....Jeff
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B. H. Cramer - 16 Jul 2008 01:43 GMT >> >> > In article <COWdnShxRe3ZXufVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@speakeasy.net>, >> >> > Theodor- [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > LOL, maybe you could tell me? Because like attracts like, you BigDumbKunt. .
BDK - 16 Jul 2008 05:22 GMT > >> >> > In article <COWdnShxRe3ZXufVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@speakeasy.net>, > >> >> > Theodor- [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Because like attracts like, you BigDumbKunt. > . Isn't it time for another injection, Benjy?
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B. H. Cramer - 16 Jul 2008 05:30 GMT >> >> >> > In article <COWdnShxRe3ZXufVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@speakeasy.net>, >> >> >> > Theodor- [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Isn't it time for another injection, Benjy? I have no idea what your schedule is, BigDumbKunt. Ask your keeper.
Jeffrey Hamilton - 17 Jul 2008 23:58 GMT >> >> > In article <COWdnShxRe3ZXufVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@speakeasy.net>, >> >> > Theodor- [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Not hardly! Then my error and I apologize.
>> If so, then _you_ are a *Sodemy Kommando* ! > > What are you babbling about? > > How does one line give you such weird ideas? It's a play on * Sonderkommando*, I use it to annoy Nazi fools. This is it's meaning, from this site:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Sonderkommando.html
At Auschwitz, Treblinka, Birkenau, Belzec, Chelmno and Sobibor the Nazis established the Sonderkommando, groups of Jewish male prisoners picked for their youth and relative good health whose job was to dispose of corpses from the gas chambers or crematoria. Some did the work to delay their own deaths; some thought they could protect friends and family, and some acted out of mere greed for extra food and money these men sometimes received. The men were forced into this position, with the only alternative being death in the gas chambers or being shot on the spot by an SS guard.
Although he's long been in my killfile, whenever I see the Nazi, Kurt Kroll mentioned, I always go and have a poke and then killfile the latest Nazi if found.
cheers....Jeff
Suevian - 11 Aug 2008 01:28 GMT >>>That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al >>>Qaeda" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > cheers.....Jeff Why is it that you freaks are constantly fixated on homosexual perversions?
Jeffrey Hamilton - 11 Aug 2008 16:32 GMT >>>>That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al >>>>Qaeda" [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Why is it that you freaks are constantly fixated on homosexual > perversions? Define freak *sperm breath*.
Had you followed the thread and actually understood what you read, you would've known what I was referring to. Now do yourself a favour, go back, reread and actually try to comprehend what is being posted.
cheers....Jeff
Suevian - 11 Aug 2008 18:10 GMT >>>>>That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al >>>>>Qaeda" [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > cheers....Jeff "McVay is a charlatan."
Joe Bruno - 11 Aug 2008 14:14 GMT On Jul 13, 8:08 pm, Jude Outta Your Mind <Theodor-He...@judenstaat.il> wrote:
> That's right folks. Kenneth McVay is as phony as the story about "al Qaeda" > doing 9/11. Well, that's your opinion. With that and $1.25, you can buy a Coke.
http://www.trachtman.org/MIDI/Joplin/pineapp.mid
ZULU - 14 Jul 2008 19:07 GMT Frankly, Kinny would you waste so much your time for any idiot who were claiming that the earth is flat?
I observe that you send a lot of post which usually are not read by most of people here.
Why such harassment on that guy?
> In article <gU8ek.94547$gc5.11716@pd7urf2no>, > The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll, [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > 86. "You do have very primitive educating..." > <IP8bk.53552$Jx.17394@pd7urf1no>, July 3, 2008 I'll Always Be Here - 14 Jul 2008 20:44 GMT > Frankly, Kinny would you waste so much your time for any idiot who were > claiming that the earth is flat? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Why such harassment on that guy? Who is harassing kurt? We are just seeking the truth, something that kurt says he is doing.
Why not ask kurt why he doesn't answer questions? Why not spend some of the time you spend on McVay on kurt and try to straighten him out?
>> In article <gU8ek.94547$gc5.11716@pd7urf2no>, >> The Poster Boy of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll, [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> 86. "You do have very primitive educating..." >> <IP8bk.53552$Jx.17394@pd7urf1no>, July 3, 2008 george - 14 Jul 2008 22:06 GMT > Frankly, Kinny would you waste so much your time for any idiot who were claiming that the > earth is flat? > > I observe that you send a lot of post which usually are not read by most of people here. > > Why such harassment on that guy? You obviously have never seen his moronic hate filled posts. He -could- be the grassy knoll
ukmp - 13 Jul 2008 08:33 GMT > 'Friday: The Muslim forewoman delivered the first verdicts. Sheppard > has 10, O'Farrell 4 Guilty verdicts, all for pages on this website.' This raises the question: Are jurors chosen to order?
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William Black - 13 Jul 2008 11:34 GMT >> 'Friday: The Muslim forewoman delivered the first verdicts. Sheppard >> has 10, O'Farrell 4 Guilty verdicts, all for pages on this website.' > > This raises the question: > Are jurors chosen to order? Random selection.
The defence and prosecution may challenge any juror.
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ukmp - 13 Jul 2008 12:38 GMT >>> 'Friday: The Muslim forewoman delivered the first verdicts. Sheppard >>> has 10, O'Farrell 4 Guilty verdicts, all for pages on this website.' [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The defence and prosecution may challenge any juror. All jurors are selected by one office in london. I happen to believe that every part of the civil service is now politicised. It is true that in the court room any juror may be challenged but who challenges the initial selection of proposed jurors? Now that the state knows so much about the individual citizen is it beyond belief that the initial list,given a strong enough political imperative ,maybe slightly filtered with a goodly proportion of those on the list belonging to a culture which professes a detestation of free speech.
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William Black - 13 Jul 2008 13:18 GMT >>>> 'Friday: The Muslim forewoman delivered the first verdicts. Sheppard >>>> has 10, O'Farrell 4 Guilty verdicts, all for pages on this website.' [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > the list belonging to a culture which professes a detestation of free > speech. And you're as mad as a badger.
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
george - 14 Jul 2008 22:04 GMT > All jurors are selected by one office in london. > I happen to believe that every part of the civil service is now politicised. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > of those on the list belonging to a culture which professes a > detestation of free speech. Your paranoia is showing
William Black - 01 Jun 2008 11:43 GMT FREE SPEECH ON TRIAL
The trial of Simon Sheppard
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A man who actually managed to get himself thrown out of the BNP for being too racist...
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and his co-defendant, the columnist Luke O’Farrell,
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He's only a 'columnist' in that he wrote a column on Sheppard's web site.
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
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