History Forum / General / British History / July 2008

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:36:55 +0100, "D. Spencer Hines"
<panther@excelsior.com>, still in revolutionary mode, quoted another
liberal insurgent:

On the subject of citing old quotations in the belief that they remain
true, read the following old quotation from Tom Paine's The Rights of
Man from 1791:

"The circumstances of the world are continually changing, and the
opinions of men change also; and as government is for the living, and
not for the dead, it is the living only that has any right in it.
That which may be thought right and found convenient in one age may
be thought wrong and found inconvenient in another. In such cases,
who is to decide, the living or the dead?"

Is the following statement by Paine still true?

"By the universal economy of nature it is known, and by the
instance of the Jews it is proved, that the human species has a
tendency to degenerate, in any small number of persons, when
separated from the general stock of society, and inter-marrying
constantly with each other."

James

Parliamentary Register
12 January 1468
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Committee members: delegated to hold continuation of parliament
In our sovereign lord's parliament held at Stirling on 12 January 1467
[1468] and continued earlier from Edinburgh to the said day, with
continuation of days, and power committed by the whole of the three estates
to certain persons noted below, to advise, debate and conclude upon the
matters following, which persons having been called and compeared, and these
are their names: [Patrick Graham], bishop of St Andrews by his procurators
[Archibald Crawford], abbot of Holyroodhouse and James Scrimgeour, [Andrew
Durisdeer], bishop of Glasgow, [Thomas Spens], bishop of Aberdeen
personally, the abbots of Holyroodhouse, [Richard Bothwell, abbot of]
Dunfermline, [Henry Abercrombie, abbot of] Cambuskenneth, [George Murray,
abbot of] Inchaffray, [David Ramsay], prior of St Andrews,? [?James
Lindsay],? privy seal, [Archibald Whitelaw], secretary, Master John
Otterburn, Master Martin Wan, Master Gilbert Rerik, [David Lindsay], earl of
Crawford, [Colin Campbell], earl of Argyll, [Thomas Boyd], earl of Arran,
[Malise Graham], earl of Menteith, [George Leslie], earl of Rothes, the
lords of parliament [Andrew Stewart], lord Avondale, chancellor, [Thomas
Erskine, lord] Erskine, [?Patrick Graham, lord] Graham,? [Alexander
Montgomery, lord] Montgomery, [Robert Lyle, lord] Lyle, [Robert Boyd, lord]
Boyd, [George Seton, lord] Seton, [James Hamilton, lord] Hamilton, [William
Forbes, lord] Forbes, [John Colquhoun], lord of Luss, [William Knollis],
preceptor of Torphichen, [David Guthrie of that Ilk], comptroller, [Sir
Robert Crichton, lord of] Sanquhar, [George Campbell of Loudoun], sheriff of
Ayr, [John Sandilands of] Calder, [David Ogilvy, lord of] Inchmartine, James
Scrimgeour,? Walter Ogilvy, Thomas Thomson; for the burgh commissioners: for
Edinburgh, Thomas Fokert, John of Fauside; for Linlithgow, John Kerr, Henry
Cavelin; for Stirling, Richard Muir and Alexander Muscat; for Haddington,
William Haliburton, William Clerk; for Lanark, William Bertram; for Perth,
Andrew Charteris, Alexander Bunsch; for Dundee, George Aberchirder, David
Aberchirder.

Absent: [David Stewart], bishop of Moray, [Richard Bothwell], abbot of
Dunfermline, [William Keith], earl Marischal, [William Borthwick], lord
Borthwick, [Patrick Hepburn], lord Hailes, [Sir John Maxwell], lord of
Calderwood, [John Somerville], lord Somerville, [Alexander Lyon], lord
Glamis.