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Energy In The Executive -- Essential To Good Government

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D. Spencer Hines - 15 Jul 2008 15:36 GMT
"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
community against foreign attacks; it is not less essential
to the steady administration of the laws; to the protection of
property against those irregular and high-handed combinations
which sometimes interrupt the ordinary course of justice; to
the security of liberty against the enterprises and assaults of
ambition, of faction, and of anarchy."

-- Alexander Hamilton (Federalist No. 69, 14 March 1788)

Reference: Hamilton, Federalist No. 69.
Peter Skelton - 15 Jul 2008 16:17 GMT
>"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
>of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
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>the security of liberty against the enterprises and assaults of
>ambition, of faction, and of anarchy."

Quite true. Look what happens when you get a lazy sh.t in there
who doesn't do his homework.

Peter Skelton
redc1c4 - 15 Jul 2008 17:27 GMT
> >"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
> >of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
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>
> Peter Skelton

true, but we finally got rid of Clinton.

redc1c4,
(at least for now. %-)
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Tiglath - 15 Jul 2008 17:31 GMT
> > >"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
> > >of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
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>
> true, but we finally got rid of Clinton.

The Speck is too drunk again to remember the Nineties.

Clinton was a VERY hard working president, whether you like him or
not; in stark contrast with the current president who has so much
vacation time as to make Congressmen jealous.
Raymond O'Hara - 15 Jul 2008 20:43 GMT
On Jul 15, 12:27 pm, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
> Peter Skelton wrote:
>
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>
> true, but we finally got rid of Clinton.

The Speck is too drunk again to remember the Nineties.

Clinton was a VERY hard working president, whether you like him or
not; in stark contrast with the current president who has so much
vacation time as to make Congressmen jealous.

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8 years of peace and prosperity vs 8 years of war and near economic ruin.
, it seems for wingnuts like red ideaology trumps reality.
J A - 15 Jul 2008 23:07 GMT
On Jul 15, 12:27 pm, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
> Peter Skelton wrote:
>
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>
> true, but we finally got rid of Clinton.

The Speck is too drunk again to remember the Nineties.

Clinton was a VERY hard working president, whether you like him or
not; in stark contrast with the current president who has so much
vacation time as to make Congressmen jealous.
<

Technically, you're right. But in reality the Bush presdiency was much more
about Cheney, Rove and the neocons, and they were energetic.
John Briggs - 21 Jul 2008 22:02 GMT
> On Jul 15, 12:27 pm, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
>> Peter Skelton wrote:
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> Technically, you're right. But in reality the Bush presdiency was
> much more about Cheney, Rove and the neocons, and they were energetic.

You're giving too much credit to Cheney - there's no evidence he ever did
anything.
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Jack Linthicum - 21 Jul 2008 22:10 GMT
> > On Jul 15, 12:27 pm, redc1c4 <redc...@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
> >> Peter Skelton wrote:
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> --
> John Briggs

He was really good at hiding.
redc1c4 - 16 Jul 2008 00:06 GMT
> > > >"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
> > > >of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
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> not; in stark contrast with the current president who has so much
> vacation time as to make Congressmen jealous.

yup: and he w*rked us over pretty good. the government governs best that
governs least, but you're not educated enough to grasp that concept.

redc1c4,
hell, my dog is smarter than you.
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Peter Skelton - 16 Jul 2008 00:35 GMT
>> > > >"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
>> > > >of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
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>yup: and he w*rked us over pretty good. the government governs best that
>governs least, but you're not educated enough to grasp that concept.

Actually he did not work you over pretty good. He did his
homework, and, being an amoral pragmatist, generally came down on
the side of a workable policy. Because he couldn't keep his d*k
where it belonged, a bunch of nuts in congress and the senate
(who's main motivation proved to be jealousy) clogged the works
with idiot blather and posturing. F*k all got done, except for
the essentials, for eight years and the country ran well.

Now we've had eight years of a lazy twit who does not do the
facts, and choses on a warped moral basis without regard to
either them or practicallity. He's had the strongest
congressional and press (although his supporters like to whine
about it) support in the last fity years, so he's been able to
implement his desires be they an unwinnable, unnecessary war or
selling houses to people who have neither the financial means to
pay for them, nor the understanding to evaluate the situation
they are putting themselves into. The country is in a cesspool
and digging hard.

The uneducated guy is you.

Peter Skelton
La N - 16 Jul 2008 01:17 GMT
.

> Actually he did not work you over pretty good. He did his
> homework, and, being an amoral pragmatist, generally came down on
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>
> The uneducated guy is you.

Absolutely most people, except the few remaining GW Bush supporters, are
just so over Clinton, the latter of whom will continue to be scapegoated for
Bush's messes by same GWB supporters.  And while most of the world is so
OVER Clinton's bl.wj.b, the damage wreaked by GWB will take years - nay,
decades - to repair.

- nilita, who hears there are some real bargains down in the US these days
....
Raymond O'Hara - 16 Jul 2008 04:45 GMT
>> > > >"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
>> > > >of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
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>
> redc1c4,

if that's your criteria then you must hate bush because a more intrusive
power grabbing government we've never had.

red, you are soooooo duped by the propaganda you don't realize how snookered
you are.
Eris - 18 Jul 2008 13:55 GMT
> > >"Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition
> > >of good government. It is essential to the protection of the
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>
> true, but we finally got rid of Clinton.

By electing him twice and making him the most popular president in
recent history?
Nice work. Two bad he couldn't run for a third term, so you could have
postponed getting rid of him for another four years.

Thanks for electing Bush twice, running up the deficits while cutting
taxes to the rich, deficit spending, proving supply side economics
doesn't work twice. Engaging us in two unwinnable wars with people as
crazy as the American religious right ( the Taliban are openly trying
cases publicly in their non democratic courts ). And last but not
least 4.00 gas.

Thanks moron.
Rotflmao
J A - 15 Jul 2008 23:07 GMT
> "Energy in the executive is a leading character in the definition

Energy in corrupt stupid people does not lead to good results in anything.

A good President is one who deals with problems rather than energetically
deepening them, or creating new ones, and if there are no problems, then
he's got nothing to be energetic about.
 
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