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Jefferson: Men Of Energy Of Character Must Have Enemies

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D. Spencer Hines - 22 Jul 2008 11:37 GMT
"Men of energy of character must have enemies; because there
are two sides to every question, and taking one with decision,
and acting on it with effect, those who take the other will of
course be hostile in proportion as they feel that effect."

-- Thomas Jefferson (letter to John Adams, 21 December 1817)

Reference: The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (Memorial Edition),
Lipscomb and Bergh, eds., 15:109.
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...As in voting FOR or AGAINST the Surge In Iraq in the Senate -- or writing
FOR or AGAINST The Surge in these newsgroups.

The There Is No Substitute For Victory Folks versus The Cut-And-Run Folks.
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DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

D. Spencer Hines - 22 Jul 2008 11:50 GMT
The Senator John McCain editorial The New York Times refused to print,
whereas they did publish the editorial of Senator Barack Obama just the week
before.

A salient example of the clear political bias practiced by The New York
Times.
Signature

DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
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In January 2007, when General David Petraeus took command in Iraq, he called
the situation "hard" but not "hopeless." Today, 18 months later, violence
has fallen by up to 80% to the lowest levels in four years, and Sunni and
Shiite terrorists are reeling from a string of defeats. The situation now is
full of hope, but considerable hard work remains to consolidate our fragile
gains.

Progress has been due primarily to an increase in the number of troops and a
change in their strategy. I was an early advocate of the surge at a time
when it had few supporters in Washington. Senator Barack Obama was an
equally vocal opponent. "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in
Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there," he said on January 10,
2007. "In fact, I think it will do the reverse."

Now Senator Obama has been forced to acknowledge that "our troops have
performed brilliantly in lowering the level of violence." But he still
denies that any political progress has resulted.

Perhaps he is unaware that the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad has recently
certified that, as one news article put it, "Iraq has met all but three of
18 original benchmarks set by Congress last year to measure security,
political and economic progress." Even more heartening has been progress
that's not measured by the benchmarks. More than 90,000 Iraqis, many of them
Sunnis who once fought against the government, have signed up as Sons of
Iraq to fight against the terrorists. Nor do they measure Prime Minister
Nouri al Maliki's new-found willingness to crack down on Shiite extremists
in Basra and Sadr City-actions that have done much to dispel suspicions of
sectarianism.

The success of the surge has not changed Senator Obama's determination to
pull out all of our combat troops. All that has changed is his rationale. In
a New York Times op-ed and a speech this week, he offered his "plan for
Iraq" in advance of his first "fact finding" trip to that country in more
than three years. It consisted of the same old proposal to pull all of our
troops out within 16 months.

In 2007 he wanted to withdraw because he thought the war was lost.  If we
had taken his advice, it would have been.  Now he wants to withdraw because
he thinks Iraqis no longer need our assistance.

To make this point, he mangles the evidence. He makes it sound as if Prime
Minister Maliki has endorsed the Obama timetable, when all he has said is
that he would like a plan for the eventual withdrawal of U.S. troops at some
unspecified point in the future.

Senator Obama is also misleading on the Iraqi military's readiness. The
Iraqi Army will be equipped and trained by the middle of next year, but this
does not, as Senator Obama suggests, mean that they will then be ready to
secure their country without a good deal of help. The Iraqi Air Force, for
one, still lags behind, and no modern army can operate without air cover.

The Iraqis are also still learning how to conduct planning, logistics,
command and control, communications, and other complicated functions needed
to support frontline troops.

No one favors a permanent U.S. presence, as Senator Obama charges. A partial
withdrawal has already occurred with the departure of five "surge" brigades,
and more withdrawals can take place as the security situation improves. As
we draw down in Iraq, we can beef up our presence on other battlefields,
such as Afghanistan, without fear of leaving a failed state behind. I have
said that I expect to welcome home most of our troops from Iraq by the end
of my first term in office, in 2013.

But I have also said that any draw-downs must be based on a realistic
assessment of conditions on the ground, not on an artificial timetable
crafted for domestic political reasons. This is the crux of my disagreement
with Senator Obama.

Senator Obama has said that he would consult our commanders on the ground
and Iraqi leaders, but he did no such thing before releasing his "plan for
Iraq." Perhaps that's because he doesn't want to hear what they have to say.

During the course of eight visits to Iraq, I have heard many times from our
troops what Major General Jeffrey Hammond, commander of coalition forces in
Baghdad, recently said: that leaving based on a timetable would be "very
dangerous."

The danger is that extremists supported by Al Qaeda and Iran could stage a
comeback, as they have in the past when we've had too few troops in Iraq.

Senator Obama seems to have learned nothing from recent history. I find it
ironic that he is emulating the worst mistake of the Bush administration by
waving the "Mission Accomplished" banner prematurely.

I am also dismayed that he never talks about winning the war-only of ending
it. But if we don't win the war, our enemies will.

A triumph for the terrorists would be a disaster for us. That is something I
will not allow to happen as president.  Instead I will continue implementing
a proven counterinsurgency strategy not only in Iraq but also in Afghanistan
with the goal of creating stable, secure, self-sustaining democratic allies.

D. Spencer Hines - 22 Jul 2008 13:33 GMT
McCain insists he was right, Obama wrong on Iraq

Bingo!  There is no question about that. -- DSH

KENNEBUNKPORT, Maine (AP) - Republican John McCain worked on Monday to
wrestle the spotlight from rival Barack Obama's tour of Iraq by insisting he
was right and the Democrat was wrong about the war and releasing a new
critical ad blaming higher gas prices on his opponent.

As Obama toured the war zones trailed by U.S. network TV anchors, McCain
ridiculed him from afar during a visit with the first President George Bush
at his summer home on the Atlantic. At the same time, the Republican
contender released an eyebrow-raising new ad flatly blaming the Illinois
senator for higher gasoline prices.

The Republican and Democratic presidential contenders have differed sharply
over Iraq. Obama has said he would withdraw U.S. troops from combat there
over 16 months while reinforcing the U.S. effort against al-Qaida and the
Taliban in Afghanistan. McCain has resisted any timetable for withdrawal,
insisting that victory in Iraq is a necessary precursor to success in
Afghanistan.

Any withdrawal of troops from Iraq "must be based on conditions on the
ground," McCain told reporters as he stood beside the 84-year-old former
president.

The Arizona senator disparaged Obama as "someone who has no military
experience whatsoever."

"When you win wars, troops come home," McCain said. "He's been completely
wrong on the issue. ... I have been steadfast in my position."

Spot On! -- DSH

On Afghanistan, McCain said, "I've always said it's long and tough and
hard."

As to Iraq, "We've succeeded. We're not succeeding, we've succeeded," McCain
said later at a fundraiser.

McCain told reporters he didn't care if Obama's trip was stealing attention
and "doesn't in the slightest undercut" his own message.

Stewart Iverson, chairman of Iowa's Republican Party, said he hopes voters
will conclude from Obama's overseas visit that "one trip doesn't make you an
expert in foreign policy."

Obama wants to hype "the visuals" of his trip.  Stunts & Style Over
Substance. -- DSH

He said the McCain campaign will have to keep pointing out the differences
between the candidates' stances on foreign policy. "It's not something that
you do in one speech. It's not just today and tomorrow. It's next week, it's
next month," he said.

Iverson predicted the foreign trip may provide "a bump for a little bit for
Obama." But as for a lasting impact on McCain, he said, "I don't think
necessarily it's going to hurt him."

The elder Bush declined to advise McCain on the two wars, noting that he no
longer follows every headline each day.

"No advice," Bush said. "My respect for him knows no bounds."

Bush would not criticize either McCain for advocating oil drilling on the
Outer Continental Shelf nor his son for rescinding his own 1992 presidential
order banning such offshore drilling. Increasing domestic production was
important, Bush said.

In a TV ad on national cable and in 11 states, McCain pushed his support for
offshore drilling as the remedy for rising gas prices.

And even though McCain opposes drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge in Alaska and during his 2000 presidential run opposed lifting the
offshore drilling moratorium, his ad clearly tries to blame rising prices on
support for the moratorium by Obama, a first-term Illinois senator.

As the price readout on a lonely gas pump rolls over to $5, the announcer
asks, "Who can you thank for rising prices at the pump?" Rising from the
background is the sound of a crowd chanting: "Obama, Obama, Obama." A
smiling Obama appears on the screen with a pump rising over his right
shoulder.

Finally the announcer says: "One man knows we must now drill more in America
and rescue our family budgets. Don't hope for more energy, vote for it.
McCain."

This ad is the latest tit-for-tat commercial over energy in the presidential
campaign. Earlier this month, an Obama ad accused McCain of being "part of
the problem" of high gas prices.

The main premise of McCain's ad - that opposition to drilling is responsible
for high gas prices - is disputed even by McCain allies. In arguing for an
end to the offshore moratorium and for drilling in the Alaska preserve,
President Bush said that these steps "will take years to have their full
impact" on energy costs.

At a rally alongside a military museum in South Portland later Monday,
McCain continued his efforts to portray Obama as risky on matters of war and
peace. "I hate war and I know how to win wars," McCain said. "I don't need
any on-the-job training."

"Our troops will come home in honor and they won't come home in defeat," he
added.

Of Obama, McCain said, "He refuses to this day to acknowledge that it
(Bush's troop buildup) has succeeded." ******

So do Pogues Gans, Surreyman and Tiglath. -- DSH ******

As anti-McCain protesters chanted from across the street, McCain said, "I
know America is divided about this war."
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DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum

J A - 22 Jul 2008 23:09 GMT
Madness and Shame By BOB HERBERT
NYT July 22, 2008

In her important new book, “The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War
on Terror Turned Into a War on American Ideals,” Jane Mayer of The New
Yorker devotes a great deal of space to David Addington, Dick Cheney’s main
man and the lead architect of the Bush administration’s legal strategy for
the so-called war on terror.

She quotes a colleague as saying of Mr. Addington: “No one stood to his
right.” Colin Powell, a veteran of many bruising battles with Mr. Cheney,
was reported to have summed up Mr. Addington as follows: “He doesn’t believe
in the Constitution.”

Very few voters are aware of Mr. Addington’s existence, much less what he
stands for. But he was the legal linchpin of the administration’s Marquis de
Sade approach to battling terrorism. In the view of Mr. Addington and his
acolytes, anything and everything that the president authorized in the fight
against terror — regardless of what the Constitution or Congress or the
Geneva Conventions might say — was all right. That included torture,
rendition, warrantless wiretapping, the suspension of habeas corpus, you
name it.

This is the mind-set that gave us Abu Ghraib, Guantánamo and the C.I.A.’s
secret prisons, known as “black sites.”

Ms. Mayer wrote: “The legal doctrine that Addington espoused — that the
president, as commander in chief, had the authority to disregard virtually
all previously known legal boundaries if national security demanded it —
rested on a reading of the Constitution that few legal scholars shared.”

When the constraints of the law are unlocked by the men and women in suits
at the pinnacle of power, terrible things happen in the real world. You end
up with detainees being physically and psychologically tormented day after
day, month after month, until they beg to be allowed to commit suicide. You
have prisoners beaten until they are on the verge of death, or hooked to
overhead manacles like something out of the Inquisition, or forced to
defecate on themselves, or sexually humiliated, or driven crazy by days on
end of sleep deprivation and blinding lights and blaring noises, or
water-boarded.

To get a sense of the heights of madness scaled in this anything-goes
atmosphere, consider a brainstorming meeting held by military officials at
Guantánamo. Ms. Mayer said the meeting was called to come up with ways to
crack through the resistance of detainees.

“One source of ideas,” she wrote, “was the popular television show ‘24.’ On
that show as Ms. Mayer noted, “torture always worked. It saved America on a
weekly basis.”

I felt as if I was in Never-Never Land as I read: “In conversation with
British human rights lawyer Philippe Sands, the top military lawyer in
Guantánamo, Diane Beaver, said quite earnestly that Jack Bauer ‘gave people
lots of ideas’ as they sought for interrogation models.”

Donald Rumsfeld described the detainees at Guantánamo as “the worst of the
worst.” A more sober assessment has since been reached by many respected
observers. Ms. Mayer mentioned a study conducted by attorneys and law
students at the Seton Hall University Law School.

“After reviewing 517 of the Guantánamo detainees’ cases in depth,” she said,
“they concluded that only 8 percent were alleged to have associated with Al
Qaeda. Fifty-five percent were not alleged to have engaged in any hostile
act against the United States at all, and the remainder were charged with
dubious wrongdoing, including having tried to flee U.S. bombs. The
overwhelming majority — all but 5 percent — had been captured by non-U.S.
players, many of whom were bounty hunters.”

The U.S. shamed itself on George W. Bush’s and Dick Cheney’s watch, and
David Addington and others like him were willing to manipulate the law like
Silly Putty to give them the legal cover they desired. Ms. Mayer noted that
Arthur Schlesinger Jr., the late historian, believed that “the Bush
administration’s extralegal counterterrorism program presented the most
dramatic, sustained and radical challenge to the rule of law in American
history.”

After reflecting on major breakdowns of law that occurred in prior
administrations, including the Watergate disaster, Mr. Schlesinger told Ms.
Mayer: “No position taken has done more damage to the American reputation in
the world — ever.”

Americans still have not come to grips with this disastrous stain on the
nation’s soul. It’s important that the whole truth eventually come out, and
as many of the wrongs as possible be rectified.

Ms. Mayer, as much as anyone, is doing her part to pull back the curtain on
the awful reality. “The Dark Side” is essential reading for those who think
they can stand the truth.
J A - 22 Jul 2008 23:09 GMT
"D. Spencer Hines" <panther@excelsior.com> wrote in message news:cMihk.340

> The There Is No Substitute For Victory Folks versus The Cut-And-Run Folks.

From 7/21/08 http://www.juancole.com/

As is usual with news it does not like, the Bush administration attempted to
muddy the waters this weekend regarding the interview of PM Nuri al-Maliki
with Der Spiegel in which he expressed approval of Barack Obama's plan to
get US troops out of Iraq within 16 months of next January. Al-Maliki told
Der Spiegel in response to a question about how long US troops would be in
his country,

 'Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we're concerned. U.S. presidential
candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the
right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.

 SPIEGEL: Is this an endorsement for the US presidential election in
November? Does Obama, who has no military background, ultimately have a
better understanding of Iraq than war hero John McCain?

 Maliki: Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq
today are being more realistic. Artificially prolonging the tenure of US
troops in Iraq would cause problems. Of course, this is by no means an
election endorsement. Who they choose as their president is the Americans'
business. But it's the business of Iraqis to say what they want. '
 
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