Some More Of The Obama Entourage
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D. Spencer Hines - 26 Jul 2008 21:20 GMT <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece>
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Jack Linthicum - 26 Jul 2008 21:28 GMT > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> > -- > DSH > Lux et Veritas et Libertas > Vires et Honor I'm sure you mean "family"
Entourage:
# cortege: the group following and attending to some important person wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
# A retinue of attendants, associates or followers en.wiktionary.org/wiki/entourage
La N - 26 Jul 2008 21:32 GMT >> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >> -- [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > # A retinue of attendants, associates or followers > en.wiktionary.org/wiki/entourage Nice family. They seem proud of their American kin.
- nilita
Dan - 26 Jul 2008 23:04 GMT >>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >>> -- [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > - nilita I wonder what it was that DSH thought he was "revealing?"
Dan
James Hogg - 26 Jul 2008 23:11 GMT >>>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >>>> -- [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >I wonder what it was that DSH thought he was "revealing?" He was just drawing the attention of his American readers to that top-quality British tabloid and ersatz wankmag, The Sun, a newspaper that Hines admires for its serious political analysis, its Page Three girls, and its full coverage of Big Brother (I bet he's going to miss Bex now that she's got the boot).
James
Andrew Swallow - 27 Jul 2008 11:30 GMT > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece> So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more suspicious about what Obama's real religion is.
Andrew Swallow
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 12:01 GMT > > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> > > So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more > suspicious about what Obama's real religion is. > > Andrew Swallow Why? Isn't the reverse true? People want to believe something that they can tarnish Obama with, so they look in Kenya for a man who converted to Islam 18 years ago. And he is a Man U fan. And he has that Christian name, Bernard.
You know sooner or later someone is going to ask if Obama Senior married Kezia in 1957 is Obama illegitimate? That might be worse than being born in the Canal Zone.
Andrew Swallow - 27 Jul 2008 12:57 GMT >>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >> So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > married Kezia in 1957 is Obama illegitimate? That might be worse than > being born in the Canal Zone. Obama's father was also a Muslim. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.>
There is a lot of dirt around his family.
Also what is the woman doing living in Bracknell? I went to school in Bracknell, it was mostly middle class and all white.
Andrew Swallow
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 13:04 GMT > >>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> > >> So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Andrew Swallow My home town, founded by ultra-white Quakers, is now about 75% Hispanic. Times change.
La N - 27 Jul 2008 14:43 GMT >>>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >>> So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > There is a lot of dirt around his family. "Dirt?" Oh dear, muslims and blacks in his family tree.
> Also what is the woman doing living in Bracknell? I went to school in > Bracknell, it was mostly middle class and all white. So what.
- nilita
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 23:00 GMT > >>>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> > >>> So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > - nilita Methinks brother Bernard is going to be more fun than Billy Carter.
William Black - 27 Jul 2008 23:25 GMT > Methinks brother Bernard is going to be more fun than Billy Carter. Doubtful, African businessmen with a mother in London and enough money to fly and see her on a regular basis aren't going to be anywhere near as thick as Billy Carter...
This isn't a 'hick from the sticks', this is a 'player'.
He may look like he's just traded in the loin cloth and assegai for a pair of shorts and a bad t-shirt, but if he has that lifestyle and enough common sense to praise the Sun when it comes knocking on his door he's certainly NOT stupid.
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Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 23:33 GMT On Jul 27, 6:25 pm, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > Methinks brother Bernard is going to be more fun than Billy Carter. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach > Time for tea. Mommy in a spensive burb? Kikuyu aren't into the assegai, I am thinking.
Andrew Swallow - 28 Jul 2008 11:59 GMT > On Jul 27, 6:25 pm, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Mommy in a spensive burb? Kikuyu aren't into the assegai, I am > thinking. Bracknell is sufficiently far from London that few commute but tend to have good jobs in the electronics and defence industries. The black step mother (first wife) lives in social housing; since it is good area social housing the waiting list must be 20 years long unless you are local or have influential friends. (I am assuming that arriving at Heathrow Airport does not make you a 'local'.)
Andrew Swallow
William Black - 28 Jul 2008 12:34 GMT > Bracknell is sufficiently far from London that few commute but tend > to have good jobs in the electronics and defence industries. The black > step mother (first wife) lives in social housing; since it is good area > social housing the waiting list must be 20 years long unless you are > local or have influential friends. (I am assuming that arriving at > Heathrow Airport does not make you a 'local'.) Chances are that about 60% of the 'social housing' in Bracknell has been sold off. That's the usual proportion in decent areas.
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
Jack Linthicum - 28 Jul 2008 12:57 GMT > > On Jul 27, 6:25 pm, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Andrew Swallow Wiki says it is a commuter area
Bracknell has two railway stations, Bracknell and Martins Heron, both of which are on the Waterloo to Reading Line, originally built by the London and South Western Railway and now operated by South West Trains. As a consequence of the frequent service on this line, Bracknell is now a major commuter centre with its residents travelling in both directions (westwards to Reading and eastwards to London (Waterloo)).
William Black - 28 Jul 2008 13:19 GMT > Bracknell has two railway stations, Bracknell and Martins Heron, both > of which are on the Waterloo to Reading Line, originally built by the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > in both directions (westwards to Reading and eastwards to London > (Waterloo)). It's an hour on the train, so well within the usual range of the London commuter.
Anyone with a council house (social housing) there will have bought it, sold it on, and retired to the seaside on the profits...
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Jack Linthicum - 28 Jul 2008 13:38 GMT On Jul 28, 8:19 am, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> > Bracknell has two railway stations, Bracknell and Martins Heron, both > > of which are on the Waterloo to Reading Line, originally built by the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach > Time for tea. Or stayed and maintained a nice cocaine route amongst all those nearly- wealthy.
William Black - 28 Jul 2008 14:17 GMT > On Jul 28, 8:19 am, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Or stayed and maintained a nice cocaine route amongst all those nearly- > wealthy. Wrong sort of 'nearly wealthy'.
This lot are '2.4 children, family Ford on the drive, holiday in Northern Italy, watch a lot of classy TV, keep the computer in the living room so they can see what their kids are looking at'.
They think Coke comes in cans and 'smack' is something they'd never do to the kids...
They gave all that sort of thing up after they left university...
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
Andrew Swallow - 28 Jul 2008 13:43 GMT >>> On Jul 27, 6:25 pm, "William Black" <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> >>> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > in both directions (westwards to Reading and eastwards to London > (Waterloo)). I look the timetable up. Bracknell to London Wateroo takes an hour and 4 minutes - they must have improved the trains.
Andrew Swallow
Don Ocean - 28 Jul 2008 01:55 GMT >> Methinks brother Bernard is going to be more fun than Billy Carter. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > This isn't a 'hick from the sticks', this is a 'player'. He is playing us, the American voter. Beware of Trojan horses.
> He may look like he's just traded in the loin cloth and assegai for a pair > of shorts and a bad t-shirt, but if he has that lifestyle and enough common > sense to praise the Sun when it comes knocking on his door he's certainly > NOT stupid. But he thinks we are.
Raymond O'Hara - 28 Jul 2008 03:30 GMT >>> Methinks brother Bernard is going to be more fun than Billy Carter. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > But he thinks we are. in your case je is right.
William Black - 27 Jul 2008 15:20 GMT > Also what is the woman doing living in Bracknell? I went to school in > Bracknell, it was mostly middle class and all white. I have news...
Things change...
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
Andrew Chaplin - 27 Jul 2008 16:49 GMT >> Also what is the woman doing living in Bracknell? I went to school in >> Bracknell, it was mostly middle class and all white. > > I have news... > > Things change... Swallow left and the property values went up?
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William Black - 27 Jul 2008 22:15 GMT >>> Also what is the woman doing living in Bracknell? I went to school in >>> Bracknell, it was mostly middle class and all white. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Swallow left and the property values went up? My memories of Bracknell is that it was always stinking dear...
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
Andrew Chaplin - 28 Jul 2008 12:46 GMT >>>> Also what is the woman doing living in Bracknell? I went to school in >>>> Bracknell, it was mostly middle class and all white. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > My memories of Bracknell is that it was always stinking dear... Just having a little fun with a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
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La N - 27 Jul 2008 14:41 GMT >> > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > married Kezia in 1957 is Obama illegitimate? That might be worse than > being born in the Canal Zone. Of course, the initiator of this thread is itching to harp on about "the black bastard" and/or the "bastard child of a black man".
- nilita
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 15:15 GMT > >> > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > - nilita If you want a snicker on the general subject this is a clip from Jon Stewart in which a Jewish man in Florida (not an actor) points out that Barack is a Hebrew name,
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=177061&title=baruch-obama
La N - 27 Jul 2008 15:53 GMT >> >> > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=177061&title=baruch-obama I love Jon Stewart! But, unfortunately, when I went to the site:
"We're sorry but this video is not available."
- nilita
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 16:01 GMT > >> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - nilita Foreigners apparently are not included in this fine offer
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 16:02 GMT > >> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - nilita Even the email won't take it.
La N - 27 Jul 2008 16:04 GMT >> >> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Even the email won't take it. My private email? Weird. Mind you, I recently had some ultra-secure features installed on my pc, so who knows ....
- nilita
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 16:28 GMT > >> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > - nilita It was from the Daily Show site, I think it blocks anything leaving the Estados Unidos
Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 20:22 GMT On Jul 27, 11:28 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > It was from the Daily Show site, I think it blocks anything leaving > the Estados Unidos http://www.tvsquad.com/2008/07/22/the-daily-show-july-21-2008-videos/
Try this one, third video down, about 2 minutes into the clip
Raymond O'Hara - 27 Jul 2008 16:31 GMT >> If you want a snicker on the general subject this is a clip from Jon >> Stewart in which a Jewish man in Florida (not an actor) points out [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - nilita funny that they would not allow frostbackistanies to access it,
John Briggs - 27 Jul 2008 20:32 GMT >>>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Of course, the initiator of this thread is itching to harp on about > "the black bastard" and/or the "bastard child of a black man". Surely that make him a "white bastard"?
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D. Spencer Hines - 27 Jul 2008 17:59 GMT Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist.
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>> > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > married Kezia in 1957 is Obama illegitimate? That might be worse than > being born in the Canal Zone. CJ Adams - 27 Jul 2008 19:04 GMT > Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. There once was a fellow from Lyme Who married three wives at a time. When asked "Why the third?" He relied "One's absurd And bigamy, sir, is a crime."
CJA
D. Spencer Hines - 27 Jul 2008 19:36 GMT Apposite...and...
Deeeeeelightful!
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>> Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > CJA Rich Johnson - 27 Jul 2008 20:40 GMT >> Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > CJA Two mothers-in-law. ~Lord John Russell, on being asked what he would consider a proper punishment for bigamy
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J A - 27 Jul 2008 19:05 GMT > Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. This kind of rumor mongering and sniping is what old women do.
Men address issues, women snipe, often below the belt.
The Democratic candidate had no control over what the father he barely knew, did.
The Bush - Karl Rove Republican party isn't a male party. It's not Eisnehower / Reagan in nature.
Raymond O'Hara - 27 Jul 2008 21:06 GMT >> Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. > > This kind of rumor mongering and sniping is what old women do. > > Men address issues, women snipe, often below the belt. what planet are you from? men gossip as badly as any woman.
and republicans never address the issues they always try to muddy the character of their opponent.
J A - 27 Jul 2008 21:18 GMT >>> Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > what planet are you from? men gossip as badly as any woman. Gay men, perhaps.
I was talking about regular American males I have interacted with.
They usually talk about events and issues and plans and how to do things.
Women constantly talk about feelings and who said or did what, etc.
> and republicans never address the issues they always try to muddy the > character of their opponent. Raymond O'Hara - 27 Jul 2008 23:13 GMT >>>> Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Women constantly talk about feelings and who said or did what, etc. i was talking about american men too.
Larry Swain - 27 Jul 2008 23:33 GMT >>>Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and republicans never address the issues they always try to muddy the > character of their opponent. That's not true; its only a certain stripe of Republican that does that. There are a good number of solid Republicans still in office.
Keith Willshaw - 27 Jul 2008 19:53 GMT >> > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > converted to Islam 18 years ago. And he is a Man U fan. And he has > that Christian name, Bernard. Well now being a Muslim is no biggee but a Man U fan - thats unforgiveable
:) Keith
CJ Adams - 27 Jul 2008 17:20 GMT >> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece> > > So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more > suspicious about what Obama's real religion is. Why wouldn't it work the other way and make people suspect Obama's brother is really a closet Southern Baptist?
Cheers CJ Adams
D. Spencer Hines - 27 Jul 2008 18:52 GMT Obama's half-brother is running for President?
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>>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece> >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Cheers > CJ Adams Andrew Swallow - 28 Jul 2008 12:09 GMT >>> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece> >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Cheers > CJ Adams That is a problem for the Kenyans not the Americans.
Andrew Swallow
torresD - 27 Jul 2008 19:35 GMT >> <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece> > > So Obama's brother is a Muslim, that will make people even more suspicious > about what Obama's real religion is. > > Andrew Swallow Is being a Muslim a bad thing? Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, what does it matter?
Muslims believe in the 72 bashful Virgins, Christians believe that a man executed 2,000 years ago, is still alive and kicking today, that a virgin concieved without sperm being introduced into her vagina, that a man can walk on water.
All religions have fantasy beliefs.
Read the Talmud and see what it has to say about non-Jews.
Frankly, I don't see what difference it makes if Obama is a Muslim or not.
D. Spencer Hines - 27 Jul 2008 19:43 GMT Hilarious!
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> Frankly, I don't see what difference it makes if Obama is a Muslim or not. Tiglath - 27 Jul 2008 16:29 GMT > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> > -- > DSH > Lux et Veritas et Libertas > Vires et Honor That's more of Mr. Hines relentless campaign to besmirch Barack Obama, come what may.
Yesterday was "Look! He didn't visit our injured troops." (Which the Pentagon didn't allow)
Today is, "Take that! Obama has a black brother!"
Shouldn't he, instead, be trying to educated his "too old" Republican candidate?
McCain thinks Iraq and Pakistan share a border.
McCain claims to know what's best in Iraq, but confuses Shia with Sunni.
McCain, it appears, has a nasty temper (maybe due to chronic pain) and fakes emotional intelligence. That alone makes him a scary potential president.
McCain is SHORT.
Do we want a president who if forced to stared at Carla Bruni's little tits during a state dance? Little Old America? NOPE.
LIke many short men he has a nasty streak -- a compensatory trait. So that his little explosive character may be as imposing as a crest a few inches taller.
Overtall, Mr. Hines on the other hand, at 6' 4", despite crippling back pain as most overtall people have in old age, needs not have an explosive character, the nasty streak suffices. He is at the other pernicious extreme, actually, shy to engage opponents on even terms, and never charging directly.
Hence Señor "El Manso" Hines.
D. Spencer Hines - 27 Jul 2008 18:41 GMT Barack Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist.
"At 18, he married a young woman named Kezia in a tribal ceremony. They had four children, two of them after he returned to Kenya from the United States. He never divorced Kezia, who now lives in Bracknell, England."
"On February 2, 1961, Obama Sr. married a fellow student, Ann Dunham in Maui, Hawaii. She did not know that he already had a wife in Kenya. Their son, Barack Obama, Jr., was born on August 4, 1961."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Sr.>
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> On Jul 27, 6:30 am, Andrew Swallow <am.swal...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>> > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > You know sooner or later someone is going to ask if Obama Senior > married Kezia in 1957 is Obama illegitimate? Jack Linthicum - 27 Jul 2008 18:50 GMT > > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/arti...> > > -- [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Hence Señor "El Manso" Hines. The very worst thing is that McCain won't salute the flag, uses as an excuse that he was tortured in some rest camp in Southeast Asia. Ha ha, what an obvious attempt to avoid the question.
D. Spencer Hines - 27 Jul 2008 19:33 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Tiglath, La Chihuahua Estulta, is PROJECTING again.
Pogue Tiglath is:
SHORT HAS A NASTY TEMPER FAKES EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE
He betrays all the faults and failings of the dreaded:
LITTLE MAN COMPLEX.
The:
LITTLE HISPANIC MAN COMPLEX...
Is even WORSE.
Deeeeelightful!
Suzette, it just doesn't get any better than this.
Enjoy!
Exitus Acta Probat
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> McCain, it appears, has a nasty temper (maybe due to chronic pain) and > fakes emotional intelligence. That alone makes him a scary potential [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > So that his little explosive character may be as imposing as a crest a > few inches taller. Richard Casady - 28 Jul 2008 04:43 GMT >shy to engage opponents on even terms, >and never charging directly. You mean likeVon Clausewitz and Sun Tsu? Geranimo? You ever hear the one about never give a sucker an even break? Pickett charged directly at Gettysburg and look what that got his men.
Casady
torresD - 28 Jul 2008 05:16 GMT http://novakeo.com/?p=891
J A - 27 Jul 2008 16:57 GMT > <http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/the_real_american_idol/article1472877.ece> Why do you hate America?
D. Spencer Hines - 28 Jul 2008 01:37 GMT Barack Obama Half-Brother #2 Found Living In China -- Pushing Cheap Exports On United States.
The CHINA CONNECTION...
'Nuff Said.
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Barack Obama’s brother pushes Chinese imports on US
Michael Sheridan Shenzhen, China
The Times of London
BARACK Obama’s half-brother has been helping to promote cheap Chinese exports in a low-profile business career while the Democratic senator has been winning worldwide fame in his race for the White House.
He has gone to extraordinary lengths to avoid public attention and his family links remain unknown to most of his acquaintances in Shenzhen, a border boomtown in southern China where he has lived since 2002.
Hmmmmmmmm... -- DSH
Mark Ndesandjo is the son of Barack Obama’s late father and his third wife, an American woman named Ruth Nidesand who runs the up-market Maduri kindergarten in Nairobi.
Obama, however, refers to him simply as “my brother” and says he was the only uncontested heir after their father, a Kenyan, died in a car crash in 1982.
But the two men held sharply diverging views on their African heritage and while Obama chose to live in the glare of publicity, his half-brother submerged himself in the crowds of the most cosmopolitan city in China.
Watson, The Plot Thickens & The Game's Afoot. -- DSH
Friends say he has a long-term Chinese girlfriend in her 20s from Henan, a poor landlocked province that sends millions of migrants to the coastal cities.
Deeeeelightful! -- DSH
He lives in Nanshan, a brash new district of high-rises and streets teeming after dark with young migrants eating spicy street food and cramming into bars, karaoke joints and massage parlours.
“He is big, strong and full of energy, speaks good Chinese and is a really easygoing guy,” said a Chinese friend, “He always wears a hat over his shaven head. I believe he has several consultancy jobs.”
Is he a Muslim? -- DSH
Chinese officials said there are unanswered questions about his internet-based company, Worldnexus Ltd. It has provided corporate communications and website design to Chinese firms seeking customers in English-speaking markets, of which the United States is the biggest.
Worldnexus is not registered to conduct business in Shenzhen and officials at the city’s commercial administration bureau said this raised potential issues of taxation and compliance with the law by its customers.
The company’s Chinese-language website promises “increased communication efficiency” to clients and lists Shenzhen exporters of electronics and machine parts among its contracts.
The website lists an office address in the west of the city but despite a search of the area and checks with local police, no such building could be located.
HILARIOUS! Fly By Night, Inc.? -- DSH
Nor is Worldnexus Ltd legally registered in Hong Kong, where many businesses choose to incorporate for their China trade, according to an official data check.
Contacted by The Sunday Times last week, Ndesandjo said: “Thanks for your interest. However I am not giving interviews at this time.”
NOT SURPRISINGLY. -- DSH
He did not respond to four subsequent requests for comment.
NOT SURPRISINGLY. -- DSH
However Ndesandjo told a Chinese businessman last week that Worldnexus was not trading at the moment, saying that he hoped to “re-start the business next year” and adding that the website was “out of date.”
"RESTART THE BUSINESS NEXT YEAR WHEN MY BROTHER IS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES."? -- DSH
Any family connection between the Democratic presidential contender and the flood of Chinese imports that are blamed by many Americans for destroying American jobs could be politically embarrassing.
REALLY? -- DSH
Obama has staked out a populist position on trade with China in the US election campaign, calling in December 2007 for a ban on all toys from Chinese factories until safety inspections were put in place.
But although the kinship between the two men is bound to cause a sensation in China – as in their father’s native Kenya, no distinction is drawn between full and half brothers – they do not appear to be close.
Ndesandjo, who had an elite education in the United States, collecting a degree from Brown University, a masters in physics from Stanford and an MBA from Emory, did not share Obama’s emotional view of his roots.
Obama painted a disappointed picture of his half-brother in his 1995 memoir, Dreams from My Father, in which he celebrated his own return to Kenya and rediscovery of his African inheritance.
At a rather tense lunch, Obama quoted “Mark” – his family name is never given away in the book - as saying Kenya was “just another poor African country” to which he felt little attachment.
Mark added: “there’s not much work for a physicist, is there, in a country where the average person doesn’t have a telephone.”
According to Obama’s account, Mark looked him in the eye and said: “You think that somehow I’m cut off from my roots, that sort of thing. Well, you’re right.”
AND LOOKING TO ESTABLISH ***NEW VERY PROFITABLE ROOTS*** IN CHINA WITH POTUS & STATE DEPT ASSISTANCE? -- DSH
“At a certain point I made the decision not to think about who my real father was. He was dead to me even when he was still alive. I knew that he was a drunk and showed no concern for his wife and children. That’s enough.”
Barack Obama senior fathered eight children by four different women.
Hmmmmmm... A Good Candidate For Hollywood. -- DSH
Obama wrote that Mark didn’t want to ask himself a lot of questions about the meaning of racial identity, dismissing the idea with the words: “life’s hard enough without all that excess baggage.”
Asked last week whether he was quoted accurately in the book, Ndesandjo did not respond.
Obama wrote that on parting, “we exchanged addresses and promised to write, with a dishonesty that made my heart ache.”
DISHONESTY IS AN OBAMA TRADEMARK? -- DSH
Two decades after that encounter, the extended and complex Obama family is bound to come under further scrutiny as the US election enters its final months after the Democratic and Republican party conventions.
REALLY? -- DSH
“That not enough has been written about his family is strange,” wrote columnist Roger Cohen in the New York Times last March, “If nominated, Obama’s family baggage will be pored over.”
REALLY? -- DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
D. Spencer Hines - 28 Jul 2008 05:14 GMT > You know sooner or later someone is going to ask if Obama Senior > married Kezia in 1957 is Obama illegitimate? Hmmmmmmm...
Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was reportedly a bigamist -- he was also reportedly a communist, a drunkard, a sportin' man who was arrogant as hell -- and a sly deceiver -- especially with the women.
"At 18, he married a young woman named Kezia in a tribal ceremony. They had four children, two of them after he returned to Kenya from the United States. He never divorced Kezia, who now lives in Bracknell, England."
"On February 2, 1961, Obama Sr. married a fellow student, Ann Dunham in Maui, Hawaii. She did not know that he already had a wife in Kenya. Their son, Barack Obama, Jr., was born on August 4, 1961."
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama%2C_Sr.>
DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor
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