The Imperial Gallon -- British Humour On Parade
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D. Spencer Hines - 22 Aug 2008 19:13 GMT "In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon known as the imperial gallon. The imperial gallon was based on the volume of 10 lb of distilled water weighed in air with brass weights with the barometer standing at 30 in Hg at a temperature of 62 °F."
Hilarious!
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Jack Linthicum - 22 Aug 2008 19:28 GMT > "In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon known as > the imperial gallon. The imperial gallon was based on the volume of 10 lb [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Vires et Honor > Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum Much more complicated than 231 cubic inches,or equal to (exactly) 3.785411784 litres or about 0.13368 cubic feet. This is the most common definition of a gallon in the United States. But not the only one?
John Briggs - 22 Aug 2008 20:02 GMT >> "In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon >> known as the imperial gallon. The imperial gallon was based on the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > common definition of a gallon in the United States. But not the only > one? That's because it's the Queen Anne Wine Gallon. The Ale Gallon was chosen for standardisation because it could be adjusted to weigh exactly 10 lb. Then, with 20 fluid ounces to the pint (instead of 16 as God intended...) a fluid ounce of distilled water would weigh exactly an ounce. Having rational systems of weights and measures was all the rage at the time...
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Peter Jason - 23 Aug 2008 04:07 GMT The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one.
Therefore 55 USA gallons equals 44 Imp gallons.
Why does the USA stubbornly still mess about with these archaic systems which include the "bushel" the "inch" and the "foot".
It's all *so* amusing.
The whole oil industry is quoted in "bbl" which is a oil barrel, probably invented in Rockefeller's time, that being a weigh/volume a man could manhandle and roll easily. This "bbl" is 200 litres approx, therefore there are 5 "bbl" in a cubic meter.
The rest of the world enjoys the system invented by the Jacobins in about 1790, a system given impetus by the simple expedient of guillotining adherents of the old system. Perhaps this would work in the USA too?
The deeper one delves, the worse it gets. Diamonds are in carats and gold is "Troy ounces".
Positively Medieval!
>> On Aug 22, 2:13 pm, "D. Spencer Hines" >> <pant...@excelsior.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > and measures was all the rage at the > time... D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 04:21 GMT Dead Wrong...
The United States Gallon is better described as about 83.3% of the fatuous Imperial Gallon.
55 U.S. gallons are then more like 45.8 Imperial gallons.
Pogue Jason strikes out AGAIN!
WHIFFFFFFFFFFF!
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> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals 44 Imp gallons. Peter Jason - 23 Aug 2008 06:07 GMT Dead right...!
It's *so* embarrassing to see a grown man hop around this ng on one leg, whilst the other is wedged firmly down his throat.
I was referring to *liquid* gallons, whereas Mr Hines is *obfuscating* and *red-herringing* by dragging *dry* gallons into the equation.
Please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon for an interminable dissertation.
To avoid any future embarrassment on *your* part, why not download this unit-conversion software: http://www.esbconsult.com/esbcalc/
*tsk*
Well I never...! How rude...!
> Dead Wrong... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> Therefore 55 USA gallons equals 44 Imp >> gallons. D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 06:52 GMT Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude!
Pogue Jason is DETERMINED to DIG himself a really DEEP HOLE -- while continuing to SHOOT himself in the FOOT as well.
The other FOOT he has firmly planted in his MOUTH.
I am of course talking about LIQUID GALLONS.
Clearly Pogue Jason doesn't even have the brains to read his OWN citation before he POSTS -- and then THINK.
Some elementary ARITHMETIC on his part would ALSO be advisable.
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> Dead right...! > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Well I never...! > How rude...!
>> Dead Wrong... >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> >>> Therefore 55 USA gallons equals 44 Imp gallons. Peter Jason - 23 Aug 2008 09:13 GMT Well I never!
If Mr Hines is *serious* about being literate & numerate he should click on the following....
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u348/peterjason1234/CanIt.jpg
This is *proof* indisputable, irrefutable, indubitable, unassailable, indestructible; and even *obvious*.
The above is from America and therefore is most relevant too!
Yes Mr Hines, a USA gallon is *inferior* of an English one, and measures only 80% thereof.
Get over it!
> Hilarius Magnus Cum Laude! > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >>>> Therefore 55 USA gallons equals 44 Imp >>>> gallons. D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 09:23 GMT "Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message news:09edneDvm8l44zLVnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@netspace.net.au...
> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals [sic] 44 Imp gallons. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hilarious!
Pogue Jason just keeps on digging -- the water is up over his shoulders now.
Dead Wrong...
On Both Counts.
The United States Gallon is better described as about 83.3% of the fatuous Imperial Gallon.
55 U.S. gallons are then more like 45.8 Imperial gallons.
Pogue Jason strikes out AGAIN!
WHIFFFFFFFFFFF!
He can't even do the Basic Arithmetic.
How Sweet It Is!
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CJ Adams - 23 Aug 2008 04:38 GMT > The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% > of the British one. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Positively Medieval! Ah, but consider the fine old Imperial pint. Twenty ounces is just the proper amout of good ale to set in front of a gentleman. More would be greedy: less would not restore the soul. It is exactly right and modernization cannot improve.
Cheers CJ Adams
Peter Jason - 23 Aug 2008 06:12 GMT >> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at >> 80% of the British one. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Cheers > CJ Adams It would never work in warm climates because the beer would be hot before one saw the bottom of the glass. Indeed, just half that amount here in the hot weather necessitates the addition of ice cubes. I don't want to brag but I have achieved renown by inventing the "beer spider" which is 7/8ths beer and 1/8ths vanilla ice cream." Alas, it never caught on.
CJ Adams - 23 Aug 2008 17:02 GMT >> Ah, but consider the fine old Imperial >> pint. Twenty ounces is just the proper [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > is 7/8ths beer and 1/8ths vanilla ice cream." > Alas, it never caught on. You drink at your pace and I shall drink at mine!
Cheers CJ Adams (Reeling from the thought of putting ice cream in it... Horror! Blasphemy! They are not just at the gates -- they are holding ice cream spoons!)
D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 17:08 GMT > (Reeling from the thought of putting ice cream in it... Horror! > Blasphemy! They are not just at the gates -- they are holding ice cream > spoons!) Barbaric Indeed...
And Puerile...
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>> I don't want to brag but I have achieved renown by inventing the "beer >> spider" which is 7/8ths beer and 1/8ths vanilla ice cream." [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Blasphemy! They are not just at the gates -- they are holding ice cream > spoons!) James Hogg - 23 Aug 2008 17:30 GMT >I don't want to brag but I have achieved >renown by inventing the "beer spider" which >is 7/8ths beer and 1/8ths vanilla ice cream." >Alas, it never caught on. It sounds like the beer milk shake that Doc - out of curiosity - ordered in Steinbeck's Cannery Row:
When she served it, he tasted it wryly. And it wasn't bad - it just tasted like stale beer and milk.
"It sounds awful," said the blonde.
"It's not so bad when you get used to it," said Doc.
James
John Briggs - 23 Aug 2008 18:24 GMT >>> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at >>> 80% of the British one. [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > is 7/8ths beer and 1/8ths vanilla ice cream." > Alas, it never caught on. It works better with Ginger Beer.
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D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 21:34 GMT Indeed.
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>> I don't want to brag but I have achieved >> renown by inventing the "beer spider" which >> is 7/8ths beer and 1/8ths vanilla ice cream." >> Alas, it never caught on. > > It works better with Ginger Beer. Peter Skelton - 23 Aug 2008 13:54 GMT >> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% >> of the British one. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >gentleman. More would be greedy: less would not restore the >soul. It is exactly right and modernization cannot improve. A half-liter is a comfortable restorative, perhaps a little inferior to a pint, but not enough that a gentleman need comment on the differece.
Far too long ago SWMBP and I celebrated our 25th and my 50th by walking up Mount Tremblant. It felt good, so we walked back down, ignotong the lift. (Tremblant is to mountaions what a pint is to beer, invigorating but not excessive.) At the bottom was a pub with a discrete sign "F et HD $10". The draft proved to be a yard. A good time was had by all.
Peter Skelton
CJ Adams - 23 Aug 2008 17:12 GMT > Far too long ago SWMBP and I celebrated our 25th and my 50th by > walking up Mount Tremblant. It felt good, so we walked back down, > ignotong the lift. (Tremblant is to mountaions what a pint is to > beer, invigorating but not excessive.) At the bottom was a pub > with a discrete sign "F et HD $10". The draft proved to be a > yard. A good time was had by all. Somehow a metre of ale would be just wrong....
Cheers CJ Adams
(For a cheerful group, could you order by the perch?)
William Black - 23 Aug 2008 13:09 GMT > The deeper one delves, the worse it gets. Diamonds are in carats and gold > is "Troy ounces". In the jewellery business, everywhere outside the USA, precious metals are measured in grams.
Most precious stones are sold by size. It's only the diamond cartel, well known operators of a large and complicated fiddle, who use things like 'carats'. But anyone who buys diamonds by the carat is getting cheated anyway, people should buy precious stones because they like them. As an investment they're rubbish...
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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea.
D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 14:10 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Jason retreats in disarray...
Yelping and whining -- with tail between legs and running for the tall grass...
Still too crooked even to admit he was dead wrong when he wrote:
> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals [sic] 44 Imp gallons.  Signature DSH Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
Richard Casady - 23 Aug 2008 14:42 GMT >The whole oil industry is quoted in "bbl" >which is a oil barrel, probably invented in >Rockefeller's time, that being a weigh/volume >a man could manhandle and roll easily. This >"bbl" is 200 litres approx, therefore there >are 5 "bbl" in a cubic meter. When they first started drilling for oil in Pennsylvania in the 1850's, the oil was hauled in horse drawn wagons, in North Sea herring barrels. Forty two gallons has been the size of an oil barrel ever since.
Casady
Richard Casady - 22 Aug 2008 20:35 GMT >> "In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon known as >> the imperial gallon. The imperial gallon was based on the volume of 10 lb [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >common definition of a gallon in the United States. But not the only >one? In the US the measures are based on the metric. The legal definition of the inch is exactly 25.4mm. If you have an exact number of cubic decimeters, there is an exact number of cubic inches to go with it.
Casady
D. Spencer Hines - 22 Aug 2008 21:00 GMT > In the US the measures are based on the metric. The legal definition > of the inch is exactly 25.4mm. If you have an exact number of cubic > decimeters, there is an exact number of cubic inches to go with it. > > Casady Indeed...
Which makes entirely more sense than these humorous British measures, such as the "Imperial Gallon"...
Great Entertainment!
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>>> "In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon known >>> as the imperial gallon. The imperial gallon was based on the volume of [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Casady Keith Willshaw - 22 Aug 2008 22:01 GMT >> In the US the measures are based on the metric. The legal definition >> of the inch is exactly 25.4mm. If you have an exact number of cubic [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Which makes entirely more sense than these humorous British measures, such > as the "Imperial Gallon"... Now given that Britain has adopted the metric system and the Americans still use a system originally based on a mediaeval British definition thats pretty rich.
Keith
D. Spencer Hines - 22 Aug 2008 22:38 GMT We brought the best of the British traditions to America and cultured them here, where they have thrived in the soil of liberty.
At the same time, the Brits deep-sixed many of them -- turning to socialism, jaded parochialism and drunken hooliganism.
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Keith Willshaw - 22 Aug 2008 23:35 GMT > We brought the best of the British traditions to America and cultured them > here, where they have thrived in the soil of liberty. Ah yes Guantanomo Bay that blazing symbol of freedom
Keith
Martin - 29 Aug 2008 21:58 GMT > We brought the best of the British traditions to America and cultured them > here, where they have thrived in the soil of liberty. Like several different forms of capital punishment?
> At the same time, the Brits deep-sixed many of them -- turning to > socialism, > jaded parochialism and drunken hooliganism. And we have the finest hooligans in the world!
wrhamblen@comcast.net - 23 Aug 2008 06:13 GMT > Now given that Britain has adopted the metric system and the Americans > still use a system originally based on a mediaeval British definition thats > pretty rich. The US has been a member of the meter convention ever since.
Metric measures were adopted by statute in 1866. American Customary Units were never adopted by statute - they are common law measures that have been defined afministratively as ratios of metric measures since the 1890s, although some of the ratios have changed over the years. The old measures haven't been made illegal except for a few items such as whiskey and wine.
Bud
James Hogg - 22 Aug 2008 21:24 GMT >"In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon known as >the imperial gallon. The imperial gallon was based on the volume of 10 lb >of distilled water weighed in air with brass weights with the barometer >standing at 30 in Hg at a temperature of 62 °F." I know that Hawaii consists of a number of islands, but it doesn't excuse the insularity displayed by a moron who is amused by the Imperial Gallon but sees nothing at all funny in the US Gallon with its 231 cubic inches.
James
Keith Willshaw - 22 Aug 2008 21:54 GMT > "In 1824, Britain adopted a close approximation to the ale gallon known as > the imperial gallon. The imperial gallon was based on the volume of 10 lb > of distilled water weighed in air with brass weights with the barometer > standing at 30 in Hg at a temperature of 62 °F." > > Hilarious! I'm not surprised you find accuracy understandable, you've never been capable of it yourself.
Keith
D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 06:50 GMT Dead Wrong...
The United States Gallon is better described as about 83.3% of the fatuous Imperial Gallon.
55 U.S. gallons are then more like 45.8 Imperial gallons.
Pogue Jason strikes out AGAIN!
WHIFFFFFFFFFFF!
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> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals 44 Imp gallons. D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 08:58 GMT Dead Wrong...
The United States Gallon is better described as about 83.3% of the fatuous Imperial Gallon.
55 U.S. gallons are then more like 45.8 Imperial gallons.
Pogue Jason strikes out AGAIN!
WHIFFFFFFFFFFF!
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> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals [sic] 44 Imp gallons. D. Spencer Hines - 23 Aug 2008 09:38 GMT Peter Jason" <pj@jostle.com> wrote in message news:09edneDvm8l44zLVnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@netspace.net.au...
> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals [sic] 44 Imp gallons. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dead Wrong...
Pogue Jason is so stupid he doesn't understand that the U.S. Gallon is equivalent to about 3.785 liters...
Whereas the fatuous Imperial Gallon is equivalent to about 4.546 liters.
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D. Spencer Hines - 24 Aug 2008 01:29 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Jason retreats in disarray after having received a good arse kicking...
Yelping and whining -- with tail between legs and running for the tall grass...
Still too crooked even to admit he was dead wrong when he wrote:
> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals [sic] 44 Imp gallons. --------Cordon Sanitaire------------------------------------
He can't even do simple percentage calculations.
Both of his numbers above are incorrect -- 80% and 44 Imperial Gallons.
Why he's so dumb he can't even properly use the Unit Conversion Software he himself recommends.
< http://www.esbconsult.com/esbcalc/>
How Sweet It Is!
Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this.
Enjoy!
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D. Spencer Hines - 24 Aug 2008 23:23 GMT Hilarious!
Pogue Jason retreats in disarray, discouragement and discombobulation, muttering obscenities, after having received a good arse kicking and slicing with a razor-sharp sword...
He's running from the Field of Honor...
Yelping and whining -- with tail between legs and running for the tall grass...
Still too crooked even to admit he was dead wrong when he wrote:
> The USA, perversely, has their gallon at 80% of the British one. > > Therefore 55 USA gallons equals [sic] 44 Imp gallons. --------Cordon Sanitaire------------------------------------
Why, he's so ignorant...
He can't even do simple percentage calculations.
Both of his numbers above are incorrect -- 80% and 44 Imperial Gallons.
Why, he's so dumb he can't even properly use the Unit Conversion Software he himself recommends.
< http://www.esbconsult.com/esbcalc/>
Hilarious!
How Sweet It Is!
Victoria, it just doesn't get any better than this.
Why it's Christmas, Thanksgiving and Theodore Roosevelt's Birthday all delivered in August.
Thank You Lord...
Enjoy!
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