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Obama's New Attack On Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes -- "Selfishness"

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D. Spencer Hines - 31 Oct 2008 22:13 GMT
"Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.

Desperately Trying To Ally Himself With The European Socialists...

While Trying To Avoid The Label.

Obama's New Attack on Those Who Don't Want Higher Taxes: 'Selfishness'

Yep...

Barack Hussein Obama -- Marxist-Leninist-Alinskyist & Pro-Palestinian
Apologist.
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DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum
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October 31, 2008 10:58 AM

Jake Tapper
ABC News

On the stump this week, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has pushed back
against Sen. John McCain's description of his tax policies.

"The reason that we want to do this, change our tax code, is not
because I have anything against the rich," Obama said in Sarasota,
Florida, yesterday.  "I love rich people!  I want all of you to be
rich.  Go for it.  That's the America dream, that's the American way,
that's terrific.

"The point is, though, that -- and it's not just charity, it's not
just that I want to help the middle class and working people who are
trying to get in the middle class -- it's that when we actually make
sure that everybody's got a shot - when young people can all go to
college, when everybody's got decent health care, when everybody's got
a little more money at the end of the month - then guess what?
Everybody starts spending that money, they decide maybe I can afford a
new car, maybe I can afford a computer for my child.  They can buy the
products and services that businesses are selling and everybody is
better off.  All boats rise.  That's what happened in the 1990s,
that's what we need to restore.  And that's what I'm gonna do as
president of the United States of America.

"John McCain and Sarah Palin they call this socialistic," Obama
continued.  "You know I don't know when, when they decided they wanted
to make a virtue out of selfishness."

It's unclear if this was a nod to the Ayn Rand book "The Virtue of
Selfishness," with all that the invocation of Rand implies.

It would seem to be, given the themes of Rand's work, what happens
when independent achievers are demonized.

Which would fit with this description of those who want to keep their
hard-earned tax dollars as "selfish."

Atlas may not be shrugging, but Obama is.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

J Antero - 02 Nov 2008 15:05 GMT
> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>
> Desperately Trying To Ally Himself With The European Socialists...

European Socialists?

Well, at least they have a functioning affordable health care system.

A McQueeg / Palin win will have teachers who talk in tongues and witch
doctor faith healers.
James Hogg - 02 Nov 2008 15:28 GMT
>> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>A McQueeg / Palin win will have teachers who talk in tongues and witch
>doctor faith healers.

No, you don't have to worry about McCain. Don't you know who his
ideal hero is? Robert Jordan in Hemingway's "For Whom the Bell
Tolls".

McCain calls Jordan a "freedom fighter", his euphemism for a
volunteer fighting on the communist side in the Spanish Civil
War.

One wonders which of the two candidates is "Desperately
Trying To Ally Himself With The European Socialists"
[sorry about the capital letters - I'm just quoting from a bad
writer, e e cummings in reverse].

James
Martin - 05 Nov 2008 15:20 GMT
>>> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> volunteer fighting on the communist side in the Spanish Civil
> War.

And gets killed at the end...
MARK TEST@teranews.com - 02 Nov 2008 17:54 GMT
> > "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Well, at least they have a functioning affordable health care system.

Yeah, so good that the Euro's that can afford it, come to America for
health procedures...

> A McQueeg / Palin win will have teachers who talk in tongues and witch
> doctor faith healers.

Naw....they'll just allow the people to chose their own doc.....

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
J Antero - 03 Nov 2008 02:45 GMT
>> > "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>> Well, at least they have a functioning affordable health care system.

> Yeah, so good that the Euro's that can afford it, come to America for
> health procedures...

More Rush Limbaugh wisdom, no doubt.

Why don't you show us some stats from international developed nation studies
on health indices versus cost per capita? Not Rush Limbaugh stuff, real
facts and analysis.

Some people do come to the US for medical treatment.

However, increasingly, Americans are travelling overseas for medical care -
did you know that? Rush doesn't talk much about that, does he...

" India is known in particular for heart surgery, hip resurfacing and other
areas of advanced medicine. The government and private hospital groups are
committed to the goal of making India a leader in the industry. The
industry's main appeal is low-cost treatment. Most estimates claim treatment
costs in India start at around a tenth of the price of comparable treatment
in America or Britain.[50] India is becoming the destination of choice for
US citizens seeking complicated, high-end medical procedures.[4]  "
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism

>> A McQueeg / Palin win will have teachers who talk in tongues and witch
>> doctor faith healers.

> Naw....they'll just allow the people to chose their own doc.....

Are people in other countries not allowed to pick their physicians? How do
you know? Give us some info on that.

Do the 40+ million Americans without an health insurance still get to pick
their physicians? Or, do they just get to pick which physicians they
wouldn't see if they had a chance to see one at all?

Also, what criteria do you, in your wisdom, apply to choosing a physician?

I don't think most people know a good effective physicain from an
incompetent personality boy.... Women, for instance, often just want
somebody that cons and reassures them, then they sing their praises with no
idea whatsoever whether the treatment they received was any good..

However, since you seem to know how to pick one physican over another, tell
us how you do it.

We'll all be grateful.

> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
William Black - 03 Nov 2008 09:25 GMT
> Yeah, so good that the Euro's that can afford it, come to America for
> health procedures...

I find it interesting that every time I get in the queue to get on a plane
to India these days I'm almost always standing next to someone from the USA
on the way there to get treatment for something or other,  usually something
reasonably serious...

That's before we get to talk about life expectancy and infant mortality
figures...

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I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Benjamin - 02 Nov 2008 17:09 GMT
Jesus said "Return to Caesar what belongs to Caesar", pay your taxes.
It is better for parents to pay taxes today than to have the children
to pay  $10 trillion national debts plus interests.
Jesus said: "Give all your money to the poor" in order to be a
Christian.

> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
Martin - 05 Nov 2008 15:18 GMT
> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Barack Hussein Obama -- Marxist-Leninist-Alinskyist & Pro-Palestinian
> Apologist.

And now your new President - isn't it deeelightful David?

Just think, a real Hawaiian in the Whitehouse. It doesn't get much better
than this... sod Virginia!
klemlepp@hotmail.com - 17 Nov 2008 20:11 GMT
> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor

L.S.
Maybe no citing but there’s certainly referring to Ayn Rand by Barack
H. Obama:

“The change we need won’t come from government alone. It will come
from each of us doing our part in our own lives, in our own
communities. It will come from each of us looking after ourselves and
our families but also looking after each other. You know – it’s been
awhile now – we’ve made a virtue out of selfishness, there’s no virtue
in that. We made a virtue of irresponsibility and we need to usher in
a new spirit of service and sacrifice and responsibly.”

Barack H. Obama

“It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s
someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service,
there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of service
and sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the
master.”

Ayn Rand “ The Virtue of Selfishness”

Is the new president a sort of Ellsworth Toohey? Food for thought.
Greeting,

Arne Appelmelk

The Netherlands
Vince - 17 Nov 2008 20:58 GMT
>> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 82 lines]
>
> Ayn Rand “ The Virtue of Selfishness”

AKA the republican creed

"I've got mine, stole it fair and square from the weaklings
 F*ck you and yours"

Vince
Bert Hyman - 17 Nov 2008 23:59 GMT
In news:%VkUk.2060$mi4.1441@nwrddc02.gnilink.net Vince
<firelaw@firelaw.us> wrote:


> AKA the republican creed
>
> "I've got mine, stole it fair and square from the weaklings
>   F*ck you and yours"

Was everything you have obtained by theft?

Or is it only Republicans who do that?

How's that work?

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Vince - 18 Nov 2008 00:25 GMT
> In news:%VkUk.2060$mi4.1441@nwrddc02.gnilink.net Vince
> <firelaw@firelaw.us> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> How's that work?

It works like this

They make a fortune on the claim that FDA approvals "preempt private
litigation" So they can sell devices and walk away when they kill people
at the same time they are corrupting the approval process

Congress Probes ‘Corrupted’ FDA Device Approvals
10 Comments

By Ed Silverman // November 17th, 2008 // 1:32 pm

The House Energy and Commerce Committee received a letter dated October
14 from a ‘large group’ of scientists and physicians at the FDA’s Center
for Devices and Radiological Health division, who complained that CDRH
managers have “corrupted and interfered with the scientific review of
medical devices.”

In a statement, John Dingell, who chairs the committee, and Bart Stupak,
who chairs the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, say they
are probing allegations that the FDA “approved or cleared medical device
applications in gross violation of laws and regulations….such activity
could allow potentially unsafe and ineffective medical devices into the
US market.”

The CDRH allegedly “ordered, intimidated and coerced FDA experts to
modify their scientific reviews, conclusions and recommendations in
violation of the law.” The CDRH staffers also claim they were forced to
use “unsound evaluation methods, and accept clinical and technical data
that is not scientifically valid or obtained in accordance with legal
requirements, such as obtaining proper informed consent from human
subjects.”

And in a letter to FDA commish Andy von Eschenbach, the lawmakers note
that the same CDRH employees wrote last May to FDA officials to
complain, and that William McConagha, assistant commissioner for
integrity and accountability, investigated the allegations and
recommended removing some CDRH managers.

Although McConagha called the “evidence is ‘compelling,’ ‘convincing,’
and ‘sufficient’ to justify disciplinary and curative actions,” Dingell
and Stupak say no action has been taken, and that retaliatory behavior
against the employees occurred.

end quote

Not to mention the pretend that they made money without using the vast
and productive infrastructure of the USA

Newton at least admitted that "If I have seen farther it is by standing
on the shoulders of Giants."

anyone who claims they "made it on their own" and that they have no
social obligation e.g. "f*ck you and yours its all mine"  is welcome to
go to Afghanistan and repeat the trick

Vince
Benjamin - 18 Nov 2008 00:12 GMT
> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Apologist.
> --

If Obama is a true Marxist-Leninist, we should expect the coming Land
Reform campaign and the cultural revolution where millions of
Republicans will be sent to work in remote re-education camps in
Alaska and Pacific Islands.

> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
James Beck - 18 Nov 2008 01:20 GMT
>> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Republicans will be sent to work in remote re-education camps in
>Alaska and Pacific Islands.

No need to send them that far. There is substantial need in the
midwest...

>> DSH
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> Vires et Honor
Don T. - 18 Nov 2008 01:39 GMT
>>> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> No need to send them that far. There is substantial need in the
> midwest...

If Obama is a TRUE Marxist-Leninist he won't just be sending republicans.
The execution squads of the Pogrom will get every undesirable, no matter
what that undesirable claims as a party affiliation. Remember. Even Beria
didn't escape the executioner.

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Don Thompson

Stolen from Dan:  "Just thinking, besides, I watched 2 dogs mating once,
and that makes me an expert. "

There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance.
~Goethe

It is a worthy thing to fight for one's freedom;
it is another sight finer to fight for another man's.
~Mark Twain

>>> DSH
>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>>> Vires et Honor
James Beck - 18 Nov 2008 04:41 GMT
>>>> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>what that undesirable claims as a party affiliation. Remember. Even Beria
>didn't escape the executioner.

Your beanie has stopped working. You need some new foil...
Benjamin - 18 Nov 2008 22:07 GMT
> "Selfishness" -- and an attack on Ayn Rand.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Apologist.
> --
If Obama were a true Marxist-Leninist, he would have done to Sen. Joe
Liberman like Stalin did to Trosky and millions of his opponents would
be sent to Gullags.

> DSH
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> Vires et Honor
 
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