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Why isnl' this NG about anything British?

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Garamondextended - 26 Jan 2004 00:12 GMT
Why?
Ian - 26 Jan 2004 17:34 GMT
> Why?

Its a funny old world.
a.spencer3 - 26 Jan 2004 17:53 GMT
> Why?

There are some bits in there currently if you look hard enough!

Surreyman
Don Aitken - 26 Jan 2004 18:42 GMT
>> Why?
>>
>There are some bits in there currently if you look hard enough!

Not reading any of the cross-posted threads makes it a lot more
manageable, too!

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jrp@somewhere.com - 26 Jan 2004 22:02 GMT
>> Why?
>>
>There are some bits in there currently if you look hard enough!
>
>Surreyman

Ah there you are.

How is the book coming on?

JRP/Stuart
a.spencer3 - 27 Jan 2004 09:40 GMT
> >> Why?
> >>
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>
> How is the book coming on?

Blaag

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 27 Jan 2004 22:40 GMT
>> >> Why?
>> >>
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>
>Blaag

That good eh!!

What you stuck on?

Where is Hippo?  Personally bombing Afghan weddings?

JRP
Surreyman - 28 Jan 2004 15:44 GMT
> >> Ah there you are.
> >>
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>
> What you stuck on?

Time. Thought I'd be retired in southern Morocco by now and able to finish
it off!

> Where is Hippo?  Personally bombing Afghan weddings?

Well, actual events don't seem to be holding up his arguments very well! But
I suspect, like me, the hard core Iraq posters aren't going to change their
views much now, and we've all been round in circles with each other several
times. Could start even talking about history again some time if someone
starts us off!

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 28 Jan 2004 23:06 GMT
>> >> Ah there you are.
>> >>
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>Time. Thought I'd be retired in southern Morocco by now and able to finish
>it off!

Southern Morocco is the bloody Sahara!!

>> Where is Hippo?  Personally bombing Afghan weddings?
>
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>times. Could start even talking about history again some time if someone
>starts us off!

Sorry too busy working out how to filter out crossposts in individual
NGs in Agent ;-)

JRP
Surreyman - 29 Jan 2004 10:41 GMT
> Southern Morocco is the bloody Sahara!!

You bet. South of the High Atlas - not down in the old Spanish Sahara!
And some of the most unbelievable mountain & desert scenery and
wonderfully friendly, hospitable people. Great history stuff, too. And
with perfectly civilised oasis towns to live in - a/c even, and most
mod con - we wouldn't/won't be camping! A very comfortable and
low-cost life just a 4-hour flight from the UK. It has long been my
little treasured secret - but even the bloody tourists are starting to
turn up now, on day trips from Marrakesh & Agadir! Why the hell am I
now telling you lot, too!

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 29 Jan 2004 22:57 GMT
>> Southern Morocco is the bloody Sahara!!
>
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>turn up now, on day trips from Marrakesh & Agadir! Why the hell am I
>now telling you lot, too!

Were you not a tourist once?

Or were you there with Monty? ;-)

JRP
Surreyman - 30 Jan 2004 18:11 GMT
> >> Southern Morocco is the bloody Sahara!!
> >
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>
> Were you not a tourist once?

Ouch!
However, there is a sensible answer, but very boring.

> Or were you there with Monty? ;-)

If I told you I'd have to kill you.

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 30 Jan 2004 18:36 GMT
>> >> Southern Morocco is the bloody Sahara!!
>> >
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>
>If I told you I'd have to kill you.

Hehehe - you might attract Hippo back, were you a spook ;-)

JRP
Surreyman - 31 Jan 2004 12:03 GMT
> Hehehe - you might attract Hippo back, were you a spook ;-)

Not as good a one as Hines, obviously. :-))

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 31 Jan 2004 12:30 GMT
>> Hehehe - you might attract Hippo back, were you a spook ;-)

>Not as good a one as Hines, obviously. :-))

No denial I see ;-)

JRP
a.spencer3 - 01 Feb 2004 12:09 GMT
> >> Hehehe - you might attract Hippo back, were you a spook ;-)
>
> >Not as good a one as Hines, obviously. :-))
>
> No denial I see ;-)

If I'd reported seeing Monty south of the High Atlas I'd:

/1/ Have moved my birth date back a few years
/2/ Probably have lost us the war!

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 01 Feb 2004 14:15 GMT
>> >jrp@somewhere.com wrote in message
>news:<519l10pd8ghhb9l5k32h6f3gfp92jrthl6@4ax.com>...
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>/1/ Have moved my birth date back a few years
>/2/ Probably have lost us the war!

Maybe he was there as a tourist.

JRP
Surreyman - 01 Feb 2004 15:12 GMT
>> >jrp@somewhere.com wrote in message
> >news:<519l10pd8ghhb9l5k32h6f3gfp92jrthl6@4ax.com>...
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>
> Maybe he was there as a tourist.

Nah - he seemed to prefer the N. African coast.

Surreyman
FF - 30 Jan 2004 22:30 GMT
>Why the hell am I now telling you lot, too!

So we'll all buy retirement homes in adjacent wadis? I can just see us all sitting
around the oasis on a balmy evening. There's Mekon at the barbie (no national
stereotypes here! ), a long queue of people heading for the tinnies (they *are*
allowed, aren't they!!).... Art strafing us from the evening sky... JohnC unionising
the punka-wallahs ...

(Sadly, I won't be there - I can't spell the name of the country and the 3 detentions
I got for spelling it wrong on a map have made me a bit paranoid about the place!)

Liz
ArtKramr - 30 Jan 2004 22:36 GMT
>Subject: Re: Why isnl' this NG about anything British?
>From: FF fuchsiafalls@excite.com
>Date: 1/30/04 2:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id:

>So we'll all buy retirement homes in adjacent wadis? I can just see us all
>sitting
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>allowed, aren't they!!).... Art strafing us from the evening sky...
>Liz

Yes, I will be strafing you from the evening sky. But I want you to know that
it is nothing personal. No offense intended.

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Surreyman - 31 Jan 2004 12:06 GMT
> (Sadly, I won't be there - I can't spell the name of the country and the 3 detentions
> I got for spelling it wrong on a map have made me a bit paranoid about the place!)

You can come and look at my palm trees with me any time you like, duckie
.........
But I know what you mean about spelling it! The French (which is what you
need to speak down there unless your Arabic's good!) made it easier.
But early on I had to make myself remember "1 ... 2" - e.g. 1 R then 2 C's.
Now you can live the rest of your life in calm! All your problems now
solved? :-))

Surreyman
FF - 31 Jan 2004 17:35 GMT
>> (Sadly, I won't be there - I can't spell the name of the country and the 3 detentions
>> I got for spelling it wrong on a map have made me a bit paranoid about the place!)
>
>You can come and look at my palm trees with me any time you like, duckie

<:-)

>.........
>But I know what you mean about spelling it! The French (which is what you
>need to speak down there unless your Arabic's good!) made it easier.
>But early on I had to make myself remember "1 ... 2" - e.g. 1 R then 2 C's.
>Now you can live the rest of your life in calm! All your problems now
>solved? :-))

What more could a girl ask:-)
Liz
Paul J. Gans - 29 Jan 2004 20:59 GMT
>> >> Ah there you are.
>> >>
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>
> Surreyman

OK.  It has been noted that many naval battles of what we
USians call the "Napoleonic Wars" ended up in rainstorms.

One idea is that the amount of particulates put into the air
by the cannon fire did it.  Others think it was just an accident.

Anyone have any opinion on this?

  --- Paul J. Gans
John Cartmell - 29 Jan 2004 23:54 GMT
> OK.  It has been noted that many naval battles of what we USians call
> the "Napoleonic Wars" ended up in rainstorms.

> One idea is that the amount of particulates put into the air by the
> cannon fire did it.  Others think it was just an accident.

> Anyone have any opinion on this?

jeremy Clarkson mentioned tonight that after 11th Sep when planes obver the
USA were banned the day temperature went up by 1 degree and the night
temperature went down by 1 degree - because of the lack of vapour trails. I
don't know where he got this from or how it might have been shown to be
true but there may be a connection between the two phenomena (even if that
they're both just urban myths!).

I did like another of his quotes though:

"when you leave US air space and enter the free world"

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William Black - 30 Jan 2004 16:27 GMT
> I did like another of his quotes though:
>
> "when you leave US air space and enter the free world"

I get the impression that he found the current level of US airport security
somewhat irksome.

As he's lived in the UK for most of his life,  the last couple of decades in
London,  I imagine he can,  like most of the rest of us,  tell when
anti-terrorist security is effective and when it's there to make people feel
as if something is being done.

Mind you,  I've always felt that US entry points were needlessly stark and
manned by people who were needlessly unpleasant.

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hippo - 27 Feb 2004 17:04 GMT
"Surreyman" wrote in message

> jrp wrote in message

[.]

> > Where is Hippo?  Personally bombing Afghan weddings?

> Well, actual events don't seem to be holding up his arguments very well! But
> I suspect, like me, the hard core Iraq posters aren't going to change their
> views much now, and we've all been round in circles with each other several
> times. Could start even talking about history again some time if someone
> starts us off!

Tut, tut, let's not be pessimistic (or self congratulatory) too soon over
Iraq. Things are moving along quite nicely in most areas. -the Troll
jrp@somewhere.com - 26 Jan 2004 22:02 GMT
>Why?

Where have all the old timers gone?

Surreyman, Hippo etc.

JRP
a.spencer3 - 27 Jan 2004 09:42 GMT
> >Why?
> >
> Where have all the old timers gone?
>
> Surreyman, Hippo etc.

Well, Surreyman's me and I've never left. Shows how much notice you take of
my posted wisdom!
Hippo's still there but, at the moment, doesn't seem to have many more
arguments to dream up re Iraq (duck!).
It's our New Mexico Welshman, Kareem, that I miss - he was good value.

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 27 Jan 2004 22:41 GMT
>> >Why?
>> >
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>arguments to dream up re Iraq (duck!).
>It's our New Mexico Welshman, Kareem, that I miss - he was good value.

How come ever right wing yank has decided to cross post to here?

JRP
Surreyman - 28 Jan 2004 15:47 GMT
> How come ever right wing yank has decided to cross post to here?

To counter the left-wing Yanks, presumably. And, re Iraq especially
(and
WWII for some), to insult some Brits in this ng who seem to have
rather better on-the-ground
knowledge!

Surreyman
jrp@somewhere.com - 28 Jan 2004 23:07 GMT
>> How come ever right wing yank has decided to cross post to here?
>
>To counter the left-wing Yanks, presumably.

Left-wing yanks, that like military intelligence?

> And, re Iraq especially
>(and
>WWII for some), to insult some Brits in this ng who seem to have
>rather better on-the-ground
>knowledge!

98% of the posts here have feck all to do with British History - is
there another NG better suited to our hobby?

JRP
FF - 28 Jan 2004 23:36 GMT
>>> How come ever right wing yank has decided to cross post to here?
>>
>>To counter the left-wing Yanks, presumably.
>
>Left-wing yanks, that like military intelligence?

ROTFLMAO!!

>> And, re Iraq especially
>>(and
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>98% of the posts here have feck all to do with British History - is
>there another NG better suited to our hobby?

Depends what you're into. For social history over the last 3 centuries and a
sometimes remarkable amount of detail I'd recommend soc.genealogy.britain
Sadly, it suffers from some of the same flame wars, but the major players are less
easily led <g>

Liz
jrp@somewhere.com - 28 Jan 2004 23:39 GMT
>Depends what you're into. For social history over the last 3 centuries and a
>sometimes remarkable amount of detail I'd recommend soc.genealogy.britain
>Sadly, it suffers from some of the same flame wars, but the major players are less
>easily led <g>

Thanks Liz
 
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