History Forum / General / British History / January 2004

Pogue Cook
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Pogue Cook [that's Michael W. Cook of London] is so stupid and
pig-ignorant he doesn't realize that SIGMUND FREUD [1856-1939] was one
of the PRINCIPAL DEVELOPERS and INVESTIGATORS of the concept of the
Self-Hating Jew.

Pogue Cook is stupider than a coprolite ---- but similar in substance.

Pogue Cook needs to initiate his basic studies in psychoanalysis by
reading Sigmund Freud's famous _Dora_ case study [Fragment of an
analysis of a case of hysteria -- 1905.] -- and he should scribble and
prattle no more codswallop on this subject on USENET until he has done
so.

Freud had a PROFOUND understanding of the Self-Hating Jew.

Here's an excellent analysis of the Dora Case by Michael Billig, a
British Social Psychologist.

http://www.massey.ac.nz/~alock/virtual/dora4.htm

And A Peek:

"Freud and Dora: repressing an oppressed identity"

["How is the desire to assimilate related to 'self-hatred'?"]

"Hannah Arendt (1970) described the Jews of Germany as having an
unrequited love affair with German culture.

The tragedy for such Jews was that the culture, which they embraced so
passionately, was routinely anti-semitic.

The same was true for the German speaking Jews of the Austro-Hungarian
Empire. Those, who were enthusiastic to be culturally German, adopted
many of that culture's prejudices against things Jewish. The bourgeois,
assimilating Jews directed these prejudices against the ghetto Jews of
the eastern Europe, the Ostjuden, who displayed overt, and shameful,
characteristics of Jewishness (Weitzmann, 1987).

Jokes about Jewish dress, meanness and unclean habits were common:
'dirty-Jew' jokes were to find their way into Freud's _Jokes and their
Relation to the Unconscious_.  A brittle and painful constellation of
feelings was involved: the desire to be German, the separation from
Jewishness, the association of Jewishness with despised traits, and a
recognition that the true Germans would still see Jewishness in
themselves, despite all their efforts.  At its extreme, this
constellation formed the basis of what has become known as
'self-hatred'."

- from Freud and Dora: repressing an oppressed identity, by Michael
Billig, Department of Social Sciences, University of Loughborough.
Published in the British Journal of Social Psychology
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This Pogue Cook, the London guttersnipe, university dropout and obscene,
vicious, scruffy little Anti-Semite, is REALLY IGNORANT, Virginia.  He
absolutely WALLOWS in a SLOUGH of Ignorance ---- yet he POSTS ----
lying, obscene gibberish.

He also just LOVES to write degrading and obscene posts, particularly to
and about Jewish Women, posts such as this one:

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Or This One:

"From: Michael W Cook (crusader_productions@hotmail.com)
Subject: Re: Defending the Indefensible
View: Complete Thread (109 articles)
Newsgroups: alt.history.british, sci.military.naval, soc.culture.israel,
soc.culture.jewish, soc.history.medieval, soc.culture.palestine
Date: 2004-01-23 15:00:44 PST

in article bus5vu$jgt27$1@ID-205389.news.uni-berlin.de, Ariel at
arielv2@37.com wrote on 23/1/04 10:10 pm:

I don't argue with Tonka, I just abuse her for her Nazi-like Jewish
expansionist views and the racial hatred she directs at Arabs. She isn't
capable of entering into a serious discussion, I learnt that several
years ago.

In fact, it's perfectly clear that Tonka is in need of a damn good f.ck,
up the arse would be best, then hopefully it would shut her up for a
while.

The problem is, there's not a man on this earth who would do it.

What's your excuse ?

Or is it that you're just another thick-as-sh.t Zionist like Goldman,
who hasn't the intelligence to write more than two or three lines at the
most ?

I'd run along back to the pack if I were you.  You've won your bronze
star for managing to get in the Nazi accusation - applause all round for
you tomorrow at prayers.  Next time go for the full award and see if you
can get Jew hater, anti-Semite and Bigot in there as well.

You can rest assured I won't be bothering to read or answer it.
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Cook = Pond Scum...Of The Lowest Possible Grade....

Pure & Simple....

You'll notice I've SHAMED Pogue Cook into NOT using such obscene,
abusive language to Tonka LATELY.  Vide infra.

Will he still use it when responding to Goldman?

Throughout all this, GANS, Cook's Lord & Master, our Left-Wing NYU
chemist, has cowered in the corner and been afraid to confront Cook
publicly ---- condemning Cook on his gross, degrading obscenities and
vicious Anti-Semitism.

Bad Show....

Gans = Craven Coward

I'm simply DELIGHTED to see that Pogue Cook has [at least currently]
focused all his virulent hatred and rage on ME ---- and is NOT abusing,
insulting and posting obscene lies about Susan Cohen, TK 9 and other
good folks in these newsgroups ---- folks who just happen to be Jewish.

That's PRECISELY what I WANTED to happen.

Many here, including Cook's Lord & Master,  P. Jonathan Gans, the
Left-Wing NYU chemist, are just too damned cowardly to do that.

If I have to take some vicious, obscene flack from Pogue Cook, because I
condemned his actions publicly, so be it.

These shoulders can take the load ---- and I'm not afraid of the
vicious, obscene little London guttersnipe.

Obviously, many others here ARE afraid of Cook ---- and take the
attitude of ---- "Well, he's not attacking ME!  Why should I sweat it."

Lest We Forget:
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"First they came for the Communists,
 and I didn't speak up,
   because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
 and I didn't speak up,
   because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
 and I didn't speak up,
   because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
 and by that time there was no one
   left to speak up for me."
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The Reverend. Martin Niemoller, 1945

Deus Vult

Sholem Aleichem

D. Spencer Hines

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

Vires et Honor

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Idiotic more like it.

There is NO such thing as a Self-Hating Jew.

It's an extreme Zionist label for someone Jewish who criticises Israel.

"You do not agree with my politics, therefore you are a Self-hating Jew."

Freud would piss all over it.

MWC