Finally a decent movie: Public Enemy #1
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Singanas@Texasgulfcoast - 04 Jul 2009 08:14 GMT "Public Enemy" with Johnny Depp is an awfully good genre film and the best in general release since STAR TREK came out 2 months ago. Depp's love interest is Marilyn Cotillard who charmed us 2 years ago as Edith Piaf. I can imagine Depp probably met her in France.
"Public Enemy" is a reprise of the Great Depression class struggle when bank robbers were briefly seen as folk heroes.
Cheers, David H ~~~~~
Hiccum Blurpaedius - 04 Jul 2009 13:14 GMT On Jul 4, 3:14 am, "Singanas@Texasgulfcoast" <davidholi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Public Enemy" with Johnny Depp is an awfully good genre > film and the best in general release since STAR TREK came [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Cheers, David H > ~~~~~ ...and today bank robbers are the ones that get tax sucking maggots like Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan elected.
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Peter Jason - 05 Jul 2009 03:08 GMT > "Public Enemy" with Johnny Depp is an awfully good genre > film and the best in general release since STAR TREK came [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Cheers, David H > ~~~~~ Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters.
He died too soon to avenge we poor suffering fleeced abstemious depositors. A large Ammonium Nitrate bomb driven to the walls of the federal reserve bldg would have created that large jolt to put the fear of Jesus into the likes of that mummified Alan Greenspan and his birth-maggot Bernanke.
Yea we are in need of those brave souls who recognize thieves, incompetents, kicked-upstairs fogeys, touts and the like, even though they hold down degrees from the Ivy League ghettos.
As it is, the Morlocks continue gnawing on the poor (lately poorer) Eloi, slavery in the form of debt continues, denizens of this NG ignore the whole problem, and that stupid (which is forever) GW Bush and his cock-socket Tony Blair have escaped scot free!
You Yanks sure get the government you deserve!
Keith Willshaw - 05 Jul 2009 10:46 GMT > Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. So you worship childkillers - interesting
> He died too soon to avenge we poor suffering fleeced abstemious > depositors. A large Ammonium Nitrate bomb driven to the walls of the > federal reserve bldg would have created that large jolt to put the fear of > Jesus into the likes of that mummified Alan Greenspan and his birth-maggot > Bernanke. But he parked his bomb outside a creche
Keith
Peter Jason - 05 Jul 2009 23:03 GMT >> Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Keith There are no crèches inside the federal reserve bldg; and:
how does one influence the course of corrupt politics?
1/ Become a politician. 2/ Become rich and exert influence. 3/ Get a gun and shoot the bad guy.
No3 has been used often to rid the world of sundry megalomaniacs. though all too rarely.
William Black - 05 Jul 2009 23:21 GMT >>> Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > There are no cr�ches inside the federal reserve bldg; and: He's talking about the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City wheresixteen children in the were killed in the "America's Kids Day Care Centre" and three others elsewhere in the building.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- srv/national/longterm/oklahoma/stories/nichols1230.htm
> how does one influence the course of corrupt politics? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > No3 has been used often to rid the world of sundry > megalomaniacs. though all too rarely. When?
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Peter Jason - 06 Jul 2009 01:19 GMT >>>> Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. >>> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > srv/national/longterm/oklahoma/stories/nichols1230.htm I'm sure that Mr McVeigh (who served his country in war) was unaware of children in the vicinity.
>> how does one influence the course of corrupt politics? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > When? Nero & Caligula, though I admit the right person is not often chosen. Archduke Ferdinand & Czar Alexander II were bad mistakes.
William Black - 06 Jul 2009 10:27 GMT >>> There are no cr?ches inside the federal reserve bldg; >>> and: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I'm sure that Mr McVeigh (who served his country in war) > was unaware of children in the vicinity. I'm convinced he did.
I mean, would such a man kill indiscriminately? He was, as you say, a soldier.
Such a man would know his target intimately.
He did exactly what he intended to do.
>>> how does one influence the course of corrupt politics? >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > often chosen. Archduke Ferdinand & Czar Alexander II were > bad mistakes. Nero and Caligula were shot?
Oh dear...
So little brain, so many mistakes...
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Peter Jason - 06 Jul 2009 23:09 GMT >>>> There are no cr?ches inside the federal reserve bldg; >>>> and: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > So little brain, so many mistakes... Tsk! Nitpicking is the first sign of senility.
Fred J. McCall - 06 Jul 2009 05:34 GMT :>> Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. :> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : :There are no crèches inside the federal reserve bldg; and: Wrong.
 Signature "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong." -- Thomas Jefferson
Ray O'Hara - 06 Jul 2009 06:40 GMT > :>> Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. > :> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wrong. It was on April 19th. any creches would have been long packed away
American Eagle - 08 Jul 2009 04:17 GMT > :>> Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. > :> > :> So you worship childkillers - interesting Why not? you worship the IDF.
> :>> He died too soon to avenge we poor suffering fleeced > :>> abstemious depositors. A large Ammonium Nitrate bomb [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Wrong. David H Singanas - 10 Jul 2009 03:38 GMT > > :>> Timothy McVeigh was seen as such in some quarters. > > :> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > Wrong. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ray,
It's a small point that William Black did not want to bother you with, but I think "crèche" means "childcare facility" or even a nest of eggs in the U.K. It's a Brit thing to use words of French origin more often than Americans.
David H ~~~~~~~~~
Dennis - 05 Jul 2009 07:48 GMT > "Public Enemy" with Johnny Depp is an awfully good genre > film and the best in general release since STAR TREK came [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "Public Enemy" is a reprise of the Great Depression class > struggle when bank robbers were briefly seen as folk heroes. I just saw it and I thought it was great too! Johnny Depp is perfect for that role.
Today the bankers *are* the robbers!
Dennis
David H Singanas - 05 Jul 2009 09:32 GMT > > "Public Enemy" with Johnny Depp is an awfully good genre > > film and the best in general release since STAR TREK came [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dennis ~~~~~~~~~
Bully for you, Dennis ! Peter Jason's reaction to the Neocons is just... well...too anarchistic and vigilantist...just what one can expect from the Outback and Roo country.
He neglects to mention that Gordon Brown FIRED those bankers who were responsible for investing in phony securities. This is something US Dems did not do...I suppose because the Dems want to show "solidarity" with Wall Street Repubs.
David H ~~~~~~~~
Ray O'Hara - 05 Jul 2009 17:33 GMT >> "Public Enemy" with Johnny Depp is an awfully good genre >> film and the best in general release since STAR TREK came [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dennis I can't imagine it will be as good as the Warren Oates-Ben Johnson Dillinger. now that is a gangster movie. and unlike Depp ,Oates kinda resembled Dillinger.
Dennis - 05 Jul 2009 21:25 GMT "Ray O'Hara" wrote :
> I can't imagine it will be as good as the Warren Oates-Ben Johnson > Dillinger. > now that is a gangster movie. > and unlike Depp ,Oates kinda resembled Dillinger. ??? The Wiki picture looks just like Johnny Depp, in fact I wonder whether someone hasn't vandalized the article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dillinger
Dennis
Jeffrey Hamilton - 05 Jul 2009 22:23 GMT > "Ray O'Hara" wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Dennis Try this one Dennis. http://www.nndb.com/people/243/000100940/warren-oates-2-sized.jpg
cheers.....Jeff
Ray O'Hara - 06 Jul 2009 00:02 GMT > "Ray O'Hara" wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Dennis http://www.walruscomix.com/rollovers/Warren_Oates.jpg
David E. Powell - 06 Jul 2009 05:24 GMT > > "Ray O'Hara" wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > http://www.walruscomix.com/rollovers/Warren_Oates.jpg Haha the John Milius "Dillinger" is one of my favorite movies ever!
Ray O'Hara - 06 Jul 2009 06:42 GMT On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Dennis" <tsalagi18NOS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.walruscomix.com/rollovers/Warren_Oates.jpg Haha the John Milius "Dillinger" is one of my favorite movies ever!
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It has a cast of great actors. and the Little Bohemia shootout is awesome.
David H Singanas - 06 Jul 2009 10:36 GMT > On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > It has a cast of great actors. > and the Little Bohemia shootout is awesome. ~~~~~ Warren Oates and Jack Elam are two genre players who will be sorely missed ! I have seen the original "Dillinger" at thrift stores in VHS format. Oates and Elam did not live long enough to become "unfamous" like David Carradine.
Cheers, David H ~~~~~
Ray O'Hara - 07 Jul 2009 02:47 GMT On Jul 6, 12:42 am, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote in > messagenews:64fae346-9e82-4758-97be-50ef16d5c707@t13g2000yqt.googlegroups.com... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > It has a cast of great actors. > and the Little Bohemia shootout is awesome. ~~~~~ Warren Oates and Jack Elam are two genre players who will be sorely missed ! I have seen the original "Dillinger" at thrift stores in VHS format. Oates and Elam did not live long enough to become "unfamous" like David Carradine.
Cheers, David H ~~~~~
both had long careers in which they both made better movies than Carradine,
Oates and Ben Johnson were the Gorch brothers in The Wild Bunch, the greatest western ever.
Ben Jognson is the only Oscar winner who is also in the Rodeo HoF. his stunt riding in Waynes Ft Apache trilogyis spectacular. Yeah, Oates, Johnson ,Elam, all great actors.among my favorites.
BlackBeard - 07 Jul 2009 04:27 GMT > > "Dennis" <tsalagi18NOS...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Haha the John Milius "Dillinger" is one of my favorite movies ever! I haven't seen it yet, but I'm curious... Does it show his arrest in Tucson? My grandfather was the TP Officer that walked up, stuck his gun in JD's ribs (determining if he had his bullet-proof vest on) and arrested him - James Charles Herron. Just curious.
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Dennis - 07 Jul 2009 04:55 GMT > I haven't seen it yet, but I'm curious... Does it show his arrest in > Tucson? My grandfather was the TP Officer that walked up, stuck his > gun in JD's ribs (determining if he had his bullet-proof vest on) and > arrested him - James Charles Herron. Just curious. Wow! How remarkable to have something like that in the family! Congratulations!
Yes, it shows the arrest in Tucson, though I don't remember the details.
Dennis
BlackBeard - 07 Jul 2009 08:03 GMT > > I haven't seen it yet, but I'm curious... Does it show his arrest in > > Tucson? My grandfather was the TP Officer that walked up, stuck his [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Dennis I have several books, articles, and police archives that document the facts. My Step-mom was also a TPD Detective and she gathered a lot of material for me. James C. Herron (Grandpa) was awarded one of JD's guns, and the handcuffs used to arrest him at his retirement. I never saw any of this as my dad bailed early on and we never had further contact. It's just family history, I never met my Grandfather - he died early. But it piques my interest from time to time.
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Ray O'Hara - 07 Jul 2009 06:04 GMT On Jul 5, 9:24 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 7:02 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Haha the John Milius "Dillinger" is one of my favorite movies ever! I haven't seen it yet, but I'm curious... Does it show his arrest in Tucson? My grandfather was the TP Officer that walked up, stuck his gun in JD's ribs (determining if he had his bullet-proof vest on) and arrested him - James Charles Herron. Just curious.
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