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Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... NOT What You THINK He Declared.... The Balfour Declaration November 2, 1917 "During the First World War, British policy became gradually committed to the idea of establishing a Jewish home in Palestine (Eretz Yisrael). After discussions in the British Cabinet, and consultation with Zionist leaders, the decision was made known in the form of a letter by Arthur James Lord Balfour to Lord Rothschild. The letter represents the first political recognition of Zionist aims by a Great Power. Foreign Office November 2nd, 1917 Dear Lord Rothschild, I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet. "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country." I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation. Yours sincerely, Arthur James Balfour" ----------------------- 'Nuff Said.... D. Spencer Hines Lux et Veritas et Libertas Vires et Honor 322 >Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... > >NOT What You THINK He Declared.... >nothing shall be done which may prejudice the >civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in >Palestine That would be a fairly key point. -- Julian Richards julian-richards "at" ntlworld.com Usenet is how from the comfort of your own living room, you can converse with people that you would never want in your house. >>Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >That would be a fairly key point. Yes, and if you pay attention to the 1947 Partition Agreement, it respected the rights of both peoples to live in the remaining 20% of British Palestine that wasn't handed over completely to Arab control. > Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any > other country." The crucial part there is that he said "...in Palestine of...", and NOT "...of Palestine as..."... which makes a lot of difference! > I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the > knowledge of the Zionist Federation. Perhaps they need reminding? > > Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > The crucial part there is that he said "...in Palestine of...", and NOT > "...of Palestine as..."... which makes a lot of difference! Which is exactly what happened. Israel is a national home (i.e. nation) for Jews located in part of the former palestinian protectorate. Perhaps you are simply confused about how much land comprised the orginal british protectorate? Have you ever noticed that the "West Bank" is only "west" in relation to its previous owner Jordan. That land is clearly on the eastern bank of the Jordan River. > > I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the > > knowledge of the Zionist Federation. > > Perhaps they need reminding? In message <LVp1c.124878$Qg7.101573@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, Jonsa <321asnoj@sregor.com> writes >Which is exactly what happened. Israel is a national home (i.e. nation) for >Jews located in part of the former palestinian protectorate. Perhaps you are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >previous owner Jordan. That land is clearly on the eastern bank of the >Jordan River. The Jordan runs approx North to South. It therefore has an East Bank and a West Bank regardless of who owns the land on each side. Mike  SignatureM.J.Powell > In message > <LVp1c.124878$Qg7.101573@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, Jonsa [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The Jordan runs approx North to South. It therefore has an East Bank and > a West Bank regardless of who owns the land on each side. And, of course, the original Protectorate included (Trans)Jordan. Surreyman > > Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any > > other country." > The crucial part there is that he said "...in Palestine of...", and NOT > "...of Palestine as..."... which makes a lot of difference! Probably what is more crucial is that when Balfour wrote, "Palestine" was the general Western designation for the biblical "Land of Israel". Under the Ottoman Empire, "Palestine" did not exist. > > I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the > > knowledge of the Zionist Federation. > Perhaps they need reminding? Of what? Deborah > > > Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... > > > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Of what? That Balfour didn't mean they could take the whole of Palestine. I seriously doubt it will worry Mr. Sharon. > > > > Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... > > > > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > That Balfour didn't mean they could take the whole of Palestine. I seriously > doubt it will worry Mr. Sharon.< That's why Britain split off the east Bank from Palestine in 1922 and renamed it Transjordan. But Sharon has even conceded a two state solution for west of the Jordan river. > > That Balfour didn't mean they could take the whole of Palestine. I seriously > > doubt it will worry Mr. Sharon.< > > That's why Britain split off the east Bank from Palestine in 1922 and renamed it > Transjordan. OOOPS! They hate to be reminded of this. > But Sharon has even conceded a two state solution for west > of the Jordan river. They hate to be reminded of Israeli concessions, too. Susan >>>"D. Spencer Hines" <D_SpencerHines@usa.yale.edu<wrote in message >><news:pSs0c.207$UY2.8525@eagle.america.net... <<<<Read What Prime Minister Balfour ACTUALLY DECLARED... <<<<NOT What You THINK He Declared.... <<<<The Balfour Declaration <<<<November 2, 1917 <<<<"During the First World War, British policy became gradually committed <<<<to the idea of establishing a Jewish home in Palestine (Eretz Yisrael). <<<<After discussions in the British Cabinet, and consultation with Zionist <<<<leaders, the decision was made known in the form of a letter by Arthur <<<<James Lord Balfour to Lord Rothschild. The letter represents the first <<<<political recognition of Zionist aims by a Great Power. <<<> <<<<Foreign Office <<<<November 2nd, 1917 <<<> <<<<Dear Lord Rothschild, <<<> <<<<I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's <<<<Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist <<<<aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet. <<<> <<<<"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in <<<<Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their <<<<best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being <<<<clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the <<<<civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in <<<<Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any <<<<other country." <> <<"Martin Reboul" <martin@SPAMFUKreboul1471.freeserve.co.uk<wrote in message <news:<c2508h$fl5$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>... <<<The crucial part there is that he said "...in Palestine of...", and NOT <<<"...of Palestine as..."... which makes a lot of difference! <> <<Probably what is more crucial is that when Balfour wrote, "Palestine" <<was the general Western designation for the biblical "Land of <<Israel". Under the Ottoman Empire, "Palestine" did not exist. <> <<<<I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the <<<<knowledge of the Zionist Federation. < <<<Perhaps they need reminding? <> <<Of what? < >That Balfour didn't mean they could take the whole of Palestine. When Balfour wrote, there was NO Ottoman territory known as "Palestine". >I seriously doubt it will worry Mr. Sharon. Probably less than the flu epidemic of 1918. Deborah NOT PRIMEMINISTER. BALFOUR WAS FOREIGN MINISTER. > >>>"D. Spencer Hines" <D_SpencerHines@usa.yale.edu<wrote in message > >><news:pSs0c.207$UY2.8525@eagle.america.net... [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > < > "Martin Reboul" <martin@SPAMFUKreboul1471.freeserve.co.uk<wrote in message news:<c28689$sgj$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>... > >That Balfour didn't mean they could take the whole of Palestine. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Deborah |
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