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History Forum / General / General Topics / December 2004Subject: Tell Congress to Investigate the 2004 Election
Subject: Tell Congress to Investigate the 2004 Election Dear friend, Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it? If people were wrongly prevented from voting, or if legitimate votes were mis-counted or not counted at all, we need to know so the wrongdoers can be held accountable, and to help prevent this from happening again. Members of Congress are demanding an investigation to answer this question. Join me in supporting their call, at: http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/ Thanks. ============ Ohio electoral fight becomes 'biggest deal since Selma' as GOP stonewalls by Bob Fitrakis, Steve Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman COLUMBUS -- As Republican officials stonewall subpoenas and subvert the recount process, Rev. Jesse Jackson has pronounced Ohio's vote fraud fiasco "the biggest deal since Selma" and has called for a national rally at "the scene of the crime" in Columbus January 3. http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1015 Kerry votes switched to Bush and ballots pre-punched for Bush by Dr. Werner Lange Pre-punched ballots; touch-screen vote switching; more absentee votes than absentee voters; unfair provisional voter deletions; change of voting sites on Election Day; voter suppression; voter intimidation; double voting; malfunctioning machines; recalibrated machines; evidently rigged machines; and even 25 million negative votes registered in some races in Mahoning County! http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1032 Franklin County, Ohio voting machine assignments, and other information by Free Press staff Check out the raw analysis: http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/900 "Hacking the vote in Miami County" by Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D. Department: Election 2004 On Election Night, when 100% of the precincts in Miami County had reported, only 31,620 votes had been counted. George W. Bush was reported to have won Miami County with 20,807 votes (65.80%) to 10,724 votes (33.92%) for John F. Kerry. These numbers did seem low. In 2000 there had been 42,841 ballots cast. Bush had won Miami County with 26,037 votes (60.78%) to 15,584 votes (36.38%) for Al Gore. http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1038 As Ukraine celebrates democracy, it's being denied in Ohio by Harvey Wasserman As demonstrators cheer the restoration of democracy to their beleaguered country, Ohio officials continue to deny it. http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/2004/1016 A Brief History of Computerized Election Fraud in America By Victoria Collier http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/102503C.shtml INSIDE THE ELECTION FRAUD BATTLE Think Kerry Is Not Involved In This Fight? Think Again. Also: Fallujah = Operation Distract From Fixed Election. by Betsy R. Vasquez http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i21election.htm Articles on VOTE FRAUD ! - WhatReallyHappened http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud.html > Subject: Tell Congress to Investigate the 2004 Election > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it? >==================== Democrats even say Kerry lost . Get over it a.shole. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party, the Kerry campaign, the secretary of state and political experts say that while there were hiccups and glitches on Election Day, there's no chance that the election was stolen, or that the results will be overturned. "Grow up! That's what I'd tell them. Grow up. Because I frankly think this is childish," said Ryan Barilleaux, a Hanover Township resident and chairman of the political science department of Miami University of Ohio. Barilleaux credited groundswell to Ohio's pivotal role in the election - if Kerry backers can yet swing Ohio, they'll have Kerry in the White House - to avenge for the 2000 election, and to the nation's "culture of litigation." "For the last half century, anytime anyone has not liked something, they've litigated it," he said. "Why should elections be any different?" Dan Trevas, a spokesman for the Ohio Democratic Party, said many voters are driven to espousing conspiracies because they just can't believe that after such a fierce campaign, after they turned out so many votes, they lost. "They're still a little shocked that Republicans turned out that many more voters considering they weren't doing the registration at the levels (Democrats) were. There's kind of this awe out there," he said. Terry McAuliffe, the national DNC chairman, was forced to issue a statement Wednesday noting that the election outcome is "undisputed." "Unlike 2000, the Republicans simply received more votes than the Democrats in this election," he said. "We are not contesting the outcome of this election." James Lee, a spokesman for Blackwell, said poll workers and Ohio's entire electoral process were subject to astonishing scrutiny on Election Day. International observers, the media and lawyers looked for anything that seemed amiss. "With any election, there is a minority of voters who are dissatisfied with the outcome," he said. "It is a testimony to our democracy that in spite of all the scrutiny and criticism and lawsuits, overall the election went off smoothly in Ohio > Subject: Tell Congress to Investigate the 2004 Election Any particular reason for putting the word "Subject" in the subject-line of the message?  SignatureSteve > Subject: Tell Congress to Investigate the 2004 Election > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > Articles on VOTE FRAUD ! - WhatReallyHappened > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud.html write your senator, ask them to challenge the electoral results. one senator just has to stand up to this fraud for an investigation. > g Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government when it deserves it. -Mark Twain > write your senator, ask them to challenge the electoral results. > one senator just has to stand up to this fraud for an investigation. I think it is too late for that. We now have a one party system, and it will not investigate itself, nor facilitate anyone else doing so. Even if Bush didnt steal 5% of the vote, that still leaves 45% of the electorate who supported him, which is evidence of such massively pervasive insanity that there no longer is a functional democracy. We only have now to wait until the policy based on irrational assumptions leads to a financial panic and revolution. What is it like where you live, and are you going to be out of the way of the frantic chaos which can result? Get OVER IT. >> write your senator, ask them to challenge the electoral results. >> one senator just has to stand up to this fraud for an investigation. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > where you live, and are you going to be out of the way of the frantic > chaos which can result? > Get OVER IT. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> where you live, and are you going to be out of the way of the frantic >> chaos which can result? I note that most of those who live in the United States of Denial, cannot respond rationally to anything which offends their sensibilities. The pervasiveness with which we see the Bushies respond with anger and attempts at quick comebacks, rather than the substance of the thread, only demonstrates their lack of rationality. If most of them had a rational rebuttal, they would use it. There are some few who have the talent to defend Bush's policy, but apparently George is not one of them. >> Get OVER IT. >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > rational rebuttal, they would use it. There are some few who have the > talent to defend Bush's policy, but apparently George is not one of them. Yet they acheived an election victory. Underestimate that rationality at your peril. -- Les Cargill > I note that most of those who live in the United States of Denial, > cannot respond rationally to anything which offends their sensibilities. <irony meter explodes> Bush won. Kerry lost. Deal with it -- you'll sleep better. And to make you feel better, here's an AP story called "Ohio Recount Ends, Shows Vote Closer" http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20041228/ap_on_re _us/ohio_vote The objective, unbiased AP reporter is technically correct -- the recount showed that Bush got about 300 fewer votes. Of course, Bush still won Ohio by 118,457 votes. I wonder -- if the recount had shown Bush with 300 additional votes, would the AP have titled this article "Ohio Recount Ends, Shows Vote Not As Close" or somesuch? Somehow, I doubt it. In any case, as we say here in Texas, "that dog won't hunt". Can you say "President George W. Bush"? --Ty Liberals make me want to vomit! Instead of getting inthe arena of ideas and try to get people to agree with them...they just try to force their minority views into legistlation through law making.......wretched creatures.....course, Republicans are not much better...but they are better for sure. > Liberals make me want to vomit! > Instead of getting inthe arena of ideas and try to get people to agree with > them...they just try to force their minority views into legistlation through > law making ...Which is exactly the way the demoratic process is supposed to work, of course. > Subject: Tell Congress to Investigate the 2004 Election > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote/ So the kooks at moveon.org have decided that they won't go quietly into the night, eh? Gee that's a shock. The bottom line remains -- the Democrats failed to convince enough Americans they could be trusted with power. Nor will they ever do so as long as kooks like Soros, Tubby Reifenstahl, etc., presume to speak for Democrats. IMHO of course. You'd think that these kooks would realize that their shrill caterwauling just doesn't inspire confidence. And note the beating the Democrats took in the Congress -- I guess Halliburton and Karl Rove stole those as well? Soooo...get over it. Game over, school's out, the fat lady sang, etc. --Ty |
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