Christmas and the Three Wise Men
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vctinney@sbcglobal.net - 21 Dec 2007 19:52 GMT Christmas and the Three Wise Men
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, has given his view that the story of the three wise men, coming from the east, who followed the star to Bethlehem is nothing more than a legend.
Theophrastus [372-288/7 B.C.], the disciple of Aristotle, mentions that: "Among the plants that grow in Arabia, Syria and India the aromatic plants are somewhat exceptional and distinct from the plants of other lands; for instance, frankincense, myrrh, cassia, opobalsam, cinnamon and all other such plants," as noted in Greek and Latin Authors on Jews and Judaism, Vol. I, page 15, # 7. . . . The wise men from the east who came into the house where Jesus the Christ lived as a young child (St. Matthew, 2:1-11), saw Him with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped Him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto Him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
Jesus was approximately, a child aged 1-2 years old, at the time of the visit of the wise men. Gold was sent annually to the Temple at Jerusalem, from communal contributions, suggesting the wise men from the east came as legal and lawful representatives from Syria, Arabia, India or beyond. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/tingeo1.htm
Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year
Tom Tinney, Sr. and Family Family Genealogy & History Internet Education Directory http://www.academic-genealogy.com/ Regional Genealogy and Local History Research: Local History and Genealogy Portals to the World. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/regionalgenealogy.htm
cromwell - 22 Dec 2007 08:59 GMT > Christmas and the Three Wise Men > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > followed the star to Bethlehem > is nothing more than a legend. <snip>
ditto the three shepards, the stable in Bethlehem, the star, the three kings, infact the entire nativity story - legend.
Geoff.
vctinney@sbcglobal.net - 23 Dec 2007 15:37 GMT Christmas and the Three Wise Men
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, has given his view that the story of the three wise men, coming from the east, who followed the star to Bethlehem is nothing more than a legend. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317885,00.html
Theophrastus [372-288/7 B.C.], the disciple of Aristotle, mentions that: "Among the plants that grow in Arabia, Syria and India the aromatic plants are somewhat exceptional and distinct from the plants of other lands; for instance, frankincense, myrrh, cassia, opobalsam, cinnamon and all other such plants," as noted in Greek and Latin Authors on Jews and Judaism, Vol. I, page 15, # 7. . . . The wise men from the east who came into the house where Jesus the Christ lived as a young child (St. Matthew, 2:1-11), saw Him with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped Him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto Him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
Jesus was approximately, a child aged 1-2 years old, at the time of the visit of the wise men. Gold was sent annually to the Temple at Jerusalem, from communal contributions, suggesting the wise men from the east came as legal and lawful representatives from Syria, Arabia, India or beyond. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/tingeo1.htm
Furthermore, "Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him." is more correctly translated as: "Where is the child that is born, the Messiah of the Jews? . . ." http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/2/2b
The incorrect translation contradicts John 18: 36 "Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." Note the word NOW.
The only ancient group that was interested in "the Messiah of the Jews?" was of course, those of the House of Israel. http://www.academic-genealogy.com/tingeo1.htm Hadrian (Sciptores Historiae Augustae, Quadrigae Tyrannorum 8.3) remarks that there is no chief of a synagogue who is not an astrologer (mathematicus), soothsayer (haruspex), or anointer (aliptes). Moreover, in the middle of the second century, Vettius Valens, in his astrological work, Anthologiae (2.28,29), refers to Abraham as a most wonderful astrological authority. Vitruvius (I.3-10) enjoined first century A.D. architects to study astronomy so that they might 'learn the direction of points, the orders of the heavens, the equinoxes and solstices and the movement of the stars' and 'to understand how clocks and sundials work'
I further refer you to: Moneychangers in the Temple By Dr. Lee Warren, B.A., D.D. (c) 1999 PLIM REPORT, Vol. 8 #3 http://www.plim.org/1Moneychangers%20in%20the%20Temple.htm . . . "To accomplish this requires knowledge of the Law of Moses concerning the half-shekel of gold, which was atonement money for Israel (Ex. 30:12-16), and the priests collection of it at the time of the Messiah." . . . "For annually, on the 1st of Adar while (the month before the Passover), proclamation was made throughout the country by messengers sent from Jerusalem of the approaching Temple tribute. On the 15th of Adar the money-changers opened stalls throughout the country to change the various coins, which Jewish residents at home or settlers abroad might bring, into the ancient money of Israel." . . . "Those Jews coming from foreign lands with foreign currency or those that had Roman coins had to have these coins changed by the moneychangers." . . .
Continuing: Ritualwell http://www.ritualwell.org/holidays/roshchodeshnewmoon/adar/primaryobject.2005-06 -28.8583807523 "Adar I comes at the same time as the secular months February/March." Average Temperature in Jerusalem (modern) is High Feb (56) Mar (61) Apr (70); Low Feb (40) Mar (43) Apr (49). Note: "The rise of the Church of Christ in these last days, being one thousand eight hundred and thirty years since the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in the flesh, it being regularly organized and established agreeable to the laws of our country, by the will and commandments of God, in the fourth month, and on the sixth day of the month which is called April-- " http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/20
The Works of Josephus, Complete and Unabridged, New Updated Edition published 1987, The Antiquities of the Jews, Book 18, Chapter 3, page 480, verse 3. (63), states: . . . "condemned him to the cross {b} A.D. 33. April 3., those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day {c} April 5.," Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, at the start of his ministry, circa 30 years old. His ministry lasted three years as noted in the Book of John, Jesus thus appears to have been born circa April 6 and died circa April 3, thirty-three years later, in seasonal weather.
For the wise men to give their gold to the child, Jesus the Christ, was recognition of the fact that He was indeed the Messiah, as it was "atonement" money.
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Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year
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