> Newton set up numerical solutions to the vis viva where the "number
> crunching" was just not practical to do by hand. Celestial mechanics
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> to keep track of all the players. Only God could handle each and
> every person.
He saw democracy as an equation that balanced liberty and equality,
concern for the individual as well as the community. A critic of
individualism, Tocqueville thought that association, the coming
together of people for common purpose, would bind Americans to an idea
of nation larger than selfish desires, thus making a civil society
which wasn't exclusively dependent on the state.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_de_Tocqueville
> So historians and political scientists tried the best they could with
> their faulty theories of general causes.
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> Bret Cahill
brian fletcher - 27 Apr 2008 01:16 GMT
On Apr 26, 9:09 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
> Newton set up numerical solutions to the vis viva where the "number
> crunching" was just not practical to do by hand. Celestial mechanics
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> to keep track of all the players. Only God could handle each and
> every person.
He saw democracy as an equation that balanced liberty and equality,
concern for the individual as well as the community. A critic of
individualism, Tocqueville thought that association, the coming
together of people for common purpose, would bind Americans to an idea
of nation larger than selfish desires, thus making a civil society
which wasn't exclusively dependent on the state.
***A classic example of a visionary, who has confused "what he is" with what
sees.
***Conflict in a society is always the result.
BOfL
Immortalist - 27 Apr 2008 06:47 GMT
> On Apr 26, 9:09 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@aol.com> wrote:
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> BOfL-
Do you mean beause he was a critic of extreme individualism?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZAg73gGHNG0
Bret Cahill - 27 Apr 2008 14:02 GMT
It's clear neither one of you have read DeTocqueville.
Bret Cahill
brian fletcher - 28 Apr 2008 00:32 GMT
> It's clear neither one of you have read DeTocqueville.
>
> Bret Cahill
That illustrates your perception that truth is found through others pov.
But of course, you are reading me, so while you are, try and think of any
series of world conflicts that didnt originate insdie a 'visionaries' head.
(You are not really reading me, just stirring up your own resource of
awareness;-)
Ill start the ball rolling with Marks.....
BOfL
brian fletcher - 28 Apr 2008 00:28 GMT
On Apr 26, 5:16 pm, "brian fletcher" <bigflet...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Immortalist" <reanimater_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> BOfL-
Do you mean beause he was a critic of extreme individualism?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZAg73gGHNG0
Yes and no.
BOfL