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Angela la Fontaine - 25 May 2004 21:51 GMT
Justice is truth, beauty!  How does humanity confuse it with vengeance?

When will we learn the lessons of Jericho and Troy and Vietnam?

Dr. King would not slaughter anyone as Governor Wallace did.

Malcolm X didn't say vengeance shall roll down like water.

Judaic or Islamic, the means necessary is just compassion.

Justice is what is just, what one can rationally justify!

How does humanity confuse it with vengeance?

Christian or Hindu, bigotry is bad.

And hypocrisy is stupid.

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John Gilmer - 26 May 2004 09:56 GMT
> Dr. King would not slaughter anyone as Governor Wallace did.

Who (whom?) did Governor Wallace "slaughter?"

EMWTK
Angela la Fontaine - 27 May 2004 18:49 GMT
The Children's March, the bridge at Selma.
And all the lynchings he protected,
even after the bus boycott.
Of course he didn't weild the knife,
but he drew the line in the dust.
In what dust are you buried?
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> > Dr. King would not slaughter anyone as Governor Wallace did.
>
> Who (whom?) did Governor Wallace "slaughter?"
>
> EMWTK
John Gilmer - 27 May 2004 19:13 GMT
> The Children's March, the bridge at Selma.
> And all the lynchings he protected,
> even after the bus boycott.

Lynchings?   Gov. Wallace didn't "protect" any lynchings.

Try pulling your head out of your a.s.   And stop being so careless in your
accusations.

Then, maybe, people might pay some attention to you.
Angela la Fontaine - 28 May 2004 19:58 GMT
Nothing careless about me.  I care for all of this millennia-old situation.
Governor Wallace protected actions against African Americans by any means he
found necessary, including the misrepresentation of the common law of the
United States Constitution and its Bill of Rights, and he said so, openly.
He said so openly, as the government of Florida did so openly in its city
named for an African Saint.
Accordingly, the NAACP headquarters in  Montgomery hung a flag over its door
saying a man was lynched today, and they did not hang that flag out on days
no African American was lynched by people who bury their heads in dust, as
you do.
Wallace succeeded in turning to dust some of the land the bus boycot made
fertile, but flowers still grow with attitudes like yours as fertilizing
manure.
Nothing is yet perfect, but everything is moving toward perfection, despite
your denial of your world.  I'll paraphrase a Dixieland trumpeter, to say it
ain't the world that's so bad but what you're failing to do to it, in the
long run.  History shows that, from Jericho to Andersonville, from the Ten
Commandments to our present efforts in Iraq, from our failures there to the
end of crusades.
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Les Cargill - 27 May 2004 02:29 GMT
> Justice is truth, beauty!  How does humanity confuse it with vengeance?

<snip>

Justice is born of the human urge to vengeance. Justice is
vengeance tempered by reason and mercy. Reason
and mercy regulate the urge.

If humans had no urge to vengeance, there'd be no justice
at all. It is the Prime Mover in that system.

> And hypocrisy is stupid.

Sometimes.

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Les Cargill
Angela la Fontaine - 27 May 2004 18:57 GMT
Justice is just, fair.
Hypocrisy is lies, or rationalization.
Rationalization is lying to oneself.
Justice is truth.

Your notion of justice,
the unfairness of bigotry,
is the basis of all horror.

Truth is the first and final mover.
Your rationalization is dust.

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> > Justice is truth, beauty!  How does humanity confuse it with vengeance?
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> Les Cargill
 
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