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If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on his four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? Now is now, and then was then, and I'm proud of my service in Vietnam and Afghanistan, while I wish I weren't past the age to serve in Iraq. And I proudly voted for Jimmy Carter's approach to equal rights at some temporary cost to our economy. www.star.net/silence > If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on his > four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? He hasn't, of course, no matter how desperate you folks are to paint him so. > > If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on his > > four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? > > He hasn't, of course, no matter how desperate you folks are to paint him > so. Then who has? > If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on his > four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? Because that is a well-placed shot across the bow of the last vestiges of "veterans day poppy" conservatism left out there. It won't work. It's selling refrigerators to the Eskimos. Bot sometimes you have to sell refrigerators to the Eskimos. Because he actually served in country. I liked veteran's day conservatism because it expressed the bewilderment that people who were homeless in 1935 (and had homes in 1955) could have about people in 1965 complaining about some war they barely knew about but it made the economy stronger and It Prevented The Next Domnio. > Now is > now, and then was then, and I'm proud of my service in Vietnam Thank you. Nobody says thank you enough for that, I think. It was worthwhile. The grandchildren of the people you saw there have better lives. Anything is better than Uncle Ho's Meat Grinder. My parents sponsored one of the Boat People from Vietnam, and he went on to found a chain of restuarants. He fed people. He looked like he hadn't been fed in years. My parent's children have mostly just held jobs. Life is funny that way. > and > Afghanistan, while I wish I weren't past the age to serve in Iraq. Time, season, rhyme, reason. Let the kids have at it. They're doing well, I think. We've done a good job with the kids. They will be better than we were. > And I > proudly voted for Jimmy Carter's approach to equal rights at some temporary > cost to our economy. Not much cost, I think. Odd how Carter's sense of history failed him in office and served us so well. We were scared then, too. And it was cold. And Solzheniztsyn was drawing the picture of the Evil Empire... And here we are. > www.star.net/silence -- Les Cargill > Because he actually served in country. No, he served himself at the expense of all countries. > I liked veteran's day conservatism because it expressed the > bewilderment that people who were homeless in 1935 (and had > homes in 1955) could have about people in 1965 complaining > about some war they barely knew about but it made the economy > stronger and It Prevented The Next Domnio. I like veterans day conservatism because of what you say. I hate veterans day conservatism, because it honors horror. War and Peace, war or peace. Make a choice. > Now is > > now, and then was then, and I'm proud of my service in Vietnam > > Thank you. Nobody says thank you enough for that, I think. I didn't kill. > It was worthwhile. The grandchildren of the people you saw > there have better lives. Anything is better than Uncle Ho's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > My parent's children have mostly just held jobs. Life is funny > that way. Life is honorable that way. > > and > > Afghanistan, while I wish I weren't past the age to serve in Iraq. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > And here we are. In deed. www.star.net/silence > > www.star.net/silence > > -- > Les Cargill As long as Bush and Faux News can keep the focus on Viet Nam (pro or con for Kerry) the focus will be off of the issues, the war, and the economy. Good news! -The American People are not really that stupid. > If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on his > four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? Now is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > www.star.net/silence No, Carol, the people of la verite are not stupid, and so they won't buy your faut pas. Kerry placed the focus on Vietnam. Cherches la paix. www.star.net/silence > As long as Bush and Faux News can keep the focus on Viet Nam (pro or con for > Kerry) the focus will be off of the issues, the war, and the economy. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > www.star.net/silence > If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on > his four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? > Now is now, and then was then, and I'm proud of my service in Vietnam > and Afghanistan, while I wish I weren't past the age to serve in > Iraq. And I proudly voted for Jimmy Carter's approach to equal > rights at some temporary cost to our economy. Learn the difference between what Kerry says and what the media reports. His Vietnam service is being attacked so that is all that is on the news lately, but that has no bearing on whether or not it is the only thing he's discussed. He's actually given a number of speeches where his service in Vietnam and his protest over the War in Iraq have not been mentioned. Of course, none of that is going to get viewers or sell newspapers because Vietnam is the hot topic, so it's not widely reported. Speeches? Holden, you seriously need to read The Catcher in the Rye. If you did, you might stop being an Ackley trying to be a Stradlater. > > If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on > > his four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > course, none of that is going to get viewers or sell newspapers because > Vietnam is the hot topic, so it's not widely reported. > Speeches? Holden, you seriously need to read The Catcher in the Rye. > If you did, you might stop being an Ackley trying to be a Stradlater. And you need to stop being so full of yourself. Do you know what he's doing when he visits city after city and stands in front of a crowd and talks? It's called a speech.... >>> If Kerry cares about issues, why has he based his campaign mostly on >>> his four months in Vietnam, whatever he did there or has done after? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> get viewers or sell newspapers because Vietnam is the hot topic, so >> it's not widely reported. And words are not deeds. Have you read The Catcher in the Rye? Next you might be saying you were born with a caul, if you've read David Copperfield. Are you talking about presiding? www.star.net/silence > And words are not deeds. Have you read The Catcher in the Rye? Next > you might be saying you were born with a caul, if you've read David > Copperfield. Are you talking about presiding? > www.star.net/silence OH MY GOD. You are really that dense, huh? You don't even make any sense! How is he going to demonstrate his economic policy through deeds when he's not president yet? Do you even know what a campaing is or are you just making stuff up in a desperate attempt to sound wise? And yes, I've read The Catcher in The Rye, so you can stop trying to find reasons to support your delusional notions of mental superiority based on the simple fact that you recognize a character's name from a book. And if any term from the literary canon is appropriate here then I'd have to call you a "phony bastard" because you talk without saying anything and then prtend to be wise because no one understands your gibberish. But that's ok, if I've learned anything about you it's that you'll post another meaninglessly cryptic message in another meaningless attempt to make yourself out to be wiser than the person who speaks plainly. I've posted it before, but you really could learn from this - "Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound strive for obscurity." --Nietzche Kerry's deeds precede his campaigning and clearly say what he. If you've read both The Catcher in the Rye and David Copperfield, you know that Salinger named the character whose name you claim after Copperfield's caul. What I say isn't gibberish to attentive intelligent persons. Another similarity between the novels is Phoebe's blending Agnes and Emily. Holden tries to protect Phoebe, who is ordinary life between Agnes and Emily. An opposite similarity is Uriah Heep's blending Ackley and Stradlater. What do you mean by "read"? To be full of oneself requires appreciating oneself, which requires knowing oneself, not self-denigration. A fact you'll call gibberish is that arrogance, pretending to better than oneself, is self-denigration. > "Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would > like to seem profound strive for obscurity." > --Nietzche Whether or not Nietzche died of syphilis, I think he was right about that. What do you strive for, in you flailing? Your reich? To what are you beholden? www.star.net/silence > Kerry's deeds precede his campaigning and clearly say what he. If > you've read both The Catcher in the Rye and David Copperfield, you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > A fact you'll call gibberish is that arrogance, pretending to better > than oneself, is self-denigration. >> "Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who >> would like to seem profound strive for obscurity." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > www.star.net/silence *sigh* the sad thing is you'll probably never know how delusional you are..... And you? |
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