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What The Muslims Need To Know

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Not-easily-duped - 26 Oct 2004 23:52 GMT
That Islam is a marketing plot used by the Jewish Christian to evangelize
the Arab idol worshipers and thus disseminate their brand of Christianity,
as opposed to Paul's brand of Christianity backed by the powerful
emperor Constantine, the king of the Roman Empire.

That after the jewish council of Jamnia, the world Jewry was divided between
those who believed that Jesus was the Messiah/Christ of Israel and those
who did not. Those believers were half way from  Paul
as they preached that God's will stated in the Torah Of Moses would never
pass away.Paul on the other hand preached that Moses Law was no longer
needed along with Christ/Messiah.

The jewish Christians kept the Sabbath
They circumcised their boys as required by Moses' costums
They worshiped in their synaguogues not in Church
They did not eat pork

To be continued
Al - 27 Oct 2004 01:30 GMT
***What's with all this Islam crapola? The Mohammadans are evil...period!

> That Islam is a marketing plot used by the Jewish Christian to evangelize
> the Arab idol worshipers and thus disseminate their brand of Christianity,
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> To be continued
I Report, You Decide - 27 Oct 2004 03:42 GMT
Too bad there is no such thing as a mohammedan, or your woud be correct. ;)

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> ***What's with all this Islam crapola? The Mohammadans are evil...period!
>
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>> To be continued
Al - 27 Oct 2004 12:22 GMT
***Too bad you cannot construct a proper sentence!

> Too bad there is no such thing as a mohammedan, or your woud be correct. ;)
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> >> To be continued
I Report, You Decide - 27 Oct 2004 18:58 GMT
Ah, drivel as opposed to a well met argument.  I win.

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> ***Too bad you cannot construct a proper sentence!
>
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Not-easily-duped - 27 Oct 2004 23:56 GMT
> Ah, drivel as opposed to a well met argument.  I win.

Oh, I see. Trying to win an argument at all costs...
You don't deserve my time - PLONK-

> > ***Too bad you cannot construct a proper sentence!
> >
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> >> >> To be continued
Not-easily-duped - 27 Oct 2004 15:54 GMT
> ***What's with all this Islam crapola? The Mohammadans are evil...period!

Evil by what standard?
Come on! and answer this If you are trully connected to reality?
The omnisciant God did not know that the evil Moahhamadans would
populate the earth?
Evil for confirming to the Jews that Moses prophecy on the
Messiah/Christ was fulfilled literally in Jesus as it was not being
fulfilled figuratively in Abu Quasim aka Mohammad?

Y'a truly are so dogmatic and repulsive to anything which does not fit
in your pagan ideologies.
If Mohammad are evil so are Paulians, assuming you know that you
doctrines are grounded on Paul and his teachings.
For the Jewish Christians, Paul was an evil man, so are you.
Not-easily-duped - 27 Oct 2004 18:37 GMT
> ***What's with all this Islam crapola? The Mohammadans are evil...period!

Thanks for Abu Quasim aka Mohammad,
the Jews have no scriptural ground to deny Jesus
as the MESIAH/Christ foretold by Moses in Deut 18:15.
as this prophecy has been fulfilled figuratively in Abu Quasim
aka Mohammad. You can not see the shadow of a tree without
the reality of that tree.Yet Mohammad points to one reality:
JESUS IS THE MESSIAH/CHRIST.
Is this what you call evil Mohammadans?
Have ideology and dogms overcome your ability to reason?
Isn't that great that God cut the grass under Jews' feet?
You should be celebrating have not you lack understanding.
Not-easily-duped - 28 Oct 2004 01:46 GMT


> ***What's with all this Islam crapola? The Mohammadans are evil...period!

 Thanks for Abu Quasim aka Mohammad,
 the Jews have no scriptural ground to deny Jesus
 as the MESIAH/Christ foretold by Moses in Deut 18:15.
 as this prophecy has been fulfilled figuratively in Abu Quasim
 aka Mohammad. You can not see the shadow of a tree without
 the reality of that tree.Yet Mohammad points to one reality:
 JESUS IS THE MESSIAH/CHRIST.
 Is this what you call evil Mohammadans?
 Have ideology and dogms overcome your ability to reason?
 Isn't that great that God cut the grass under Jews' feet?
 You should be celebrating INSTEAD.
Not-easily-duped - 28 Oct 2004 15:30 GMT
>  "Al" <A_G_G@no_spam.net> wrote in message >news:<clmq8b02jo9@enews4.newsguy.com>...
 
 
>  ***What's with all this Islam crapola? The Mohammadans are evil...period!
 
 
  Thanks for Abu Quasim aka Mohammad,
  the Jews have no scriptural ground to deny Jesus
  as the MESIAH/Christ foretold by Moses in Deut 18:15.
  as this prophecy has been fulfilled figuratively in Abu Quasim
  aka Mohammad. You can not see the shadow of a tree without
  the reality of that tree.Yet Mohammad points to one reality:
  JESUS IS THE MESSIAH/CHRIST.
  Is this what you call evil Mohammadans?
  Have ideology and dogms overcome your ability to reason?
  Isn't that great that God cut the grass under Jews' feet?
  You should be celebrating INSTEAD.

  By The way, If anyone doesn't vote for BUSH let him be cursed.
  Let the God pour His wrath down on such a person as He did
  with Abu Lahab, Mohammad opponent at MECCA.
JTEM - 28 Oct 2004 15:44 GMT
"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
        [---snip---]

Isn't "not easily" supposed to mean "with some difficulty,"
or something like that?

At least in English.

What does it mean in other languages?
N0NE - 28 Oct 2004 15:05 GMT
>"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
>         [---snip---]
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>
>What does it mean in other languages?
Daniel Hoehr - 30 Oct 2004 11:20 GMT
> >"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
> >         [---snip---]
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> >
> >What does it mean in other languages?

"nicht einfach" (German)
"non facile" (Latin)

maf? Dutch, please!

DH
BDK - 28 Oct 2004 19:07 GMT
> >  "Al" <A_G_G@no_spam.net> wrote in message >news:<clmq8b02jo9@enews4.newsguy.com>...
>  
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>    Isn't that great that God cut the grass under Jews' feet?
>    You should be celebrating INSTEAD.

Um, ok. Hey here's a napkin, wipe the drool off, ok? What did the doctor
say about not taking your pills??

>    By The way, If anyone doesn't vote for BUSH let him be cursed.
>    Let the God pour His wrath down on such a person as He did
>    with Abu Lahab, Mohammad opponent at MECCA.

Umm, you do realize that we think everyone but Bush in the above
rantings is either a fictional character, or an "Amplified" one, such as
a minor character/story retold to miracle status?? BTW, we dont buy the
bible either, it's just an old book to us...

Sorry. I did that (Vote for Dubya) 4 years ago. As his Daddy would say,
"Not...Gonna..Happen.....Again!!

BDK
Alan Hobson - 28 Oct 2004 22:40 GMT
> >  "Al" <A_G_G@no_spam.net> wrote in message >news:<clmq8b02jo9@enews4.newsguy.com>...
>  
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>    Let the God pour His wrath down on such a person as He did
>    with Abu Lahab, Mohammad opponent at MECCA.

"Grrr... Arf! Arf!" squeaks the little Chihuahua of Doom.  

-Alan
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ElKabong - 30 Oct 2004 03:57 GMT
>>***What's with all this Islam crapola? The Mohammadans are evil...period!
>
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>  Isn't that great that God cut the grass under Jews' feet?
>  You should be celebrating have not you lack understanding.
The Jews will never accept Christ, because then they wouldnt be
"special". They revel in their differences from us.
I Report, You Decide - 27 Oct 2004 03:42 GMT
Gee there is another poster on here who claims that Islam was created by the
Vatican, using bits and pieces of Bablyonian myths, Catholicism and corrupt
church documents.  Muslims were supposed to be the Vaticans machine to wipe
out Christians and secure Jerusalem for the Pope.

Golly Gee willikers, with so much data it is hard to process.

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> That Islam is a marketing plot used by the Jewish Christian to evangelize
> the Arab idol worshipers and thus disseminate their brand of Christianity,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> To be continued
Not-easily-duped - 27 Oct 2004 16:14 GMT
> Gee there is another poster on here who claims that Islam was created by the
> Vatican, using bits and pieces of Bablyonian myths, Catholicism and corrupt
> church documents.  Muslims were supposed to be the Vaticans machine to wipe
> out Christians and secure Jerusalem for the Pope.
>
> Golly Gee willikers, with so much data it is hard to process.

The meaning of the quranic messages hardly support his opinion.
What the author of the Qur'an was trying to get across was that
the Law/Torah was the standard and not Paul.
We have in the Bible the same scenario were Paul was attacked for
attacking Moses' Law.

The author said Trinity is polytheism and is not a part of an original
teaching on Jesus as the Messiah. I hardly see Vatican or the pope
endorsing such a rebuttal.
The author said Jesus, Moses,John the Baptist aka yaya were all
circumcised. Another blow against Paul who taught that
circumcision was useless.

The author redifined the word apostolic which according to the Vatican
means the 12 disciples of Jesus.
For the Quranic author, apostolic means anybody sent by God since
Adam through Moses up to the Messiah/Christ, the final apostle and
authority from God
So basically what we have is a kind of who has the true apostolic
Tradition.

For Islam Son of God does not mean begotten while the Vatican
in the Nicea creed proclaimed "begotten not made"

For Islam Jesus is the Messiah/Christ foretold by Moses in the Torah
18:15 which state that Messiah is a prophet like Moses.
Vatican does not know such thing and sticks to Paul Christological
definition that Messiah/Christ was God before all ages.

Why the Vatican would create such thing like Islam which runs opposite
to anything it holds dear?
I Report, You Decide - 27 Oct 2004 19:01 GMT
Are you asking a question or is it a rhetorical one?

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>> Gee there is another poster on here who claims that Islam was created by
>> the
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> Why the Vatican would create such thing like Islam which runs opposite
> to anything it holds dear?
Ian Braidwood - 27 Oct 2004 09:08 GMT
> That Islam is a marketing plot used by the Jewish Christian to evangelize
> the Arab idol worshipers and thus disseminate their brand of Christianity,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> To be continued

1. Gosh, we can hardly wait.

2. You forgot the ellipsis (...) at the end.

3. In the cause of accuracy, you should change your name to Duped Already.

(-: Ian :-)
Not-easily-duped - 27 Oct 2004 15:55 GMT
diri.gini@virgin.net (Ian Braidwood) wrote in message

> 3. In the cause of accuracy, you should change your name to Duped Already.

I give you the benefit of doubt.

> (-: Ian :-)
Ian Braidwood - 28 Oct 2004 12:33 GMT
> diri.gini@virgin.net (Ian Braidwood) wrote in message
>
> > 3. In the cause of accuracy, you should change your name to Duped Already.
>
>  I give you the benefit of doubt.

Probably wise.

(-: Ian :-)
 
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