"Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam"
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
"The Clinton administration talked about firm evidence linking Saddam
Hussein's regime to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network years before
President Bush made the same statements."
Of course. ---- DSH
"The issue arose again this month after the National Commission on
Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States reported there was no
"collaborative relationship" between the old Iraqi regime and bin Laden.
Democrats have cited the staff report to accuse Mr. Bush of making
inaccurate statements about a linkage. Commission members, including a
Democrat and two Republicans, quickly came to the administration's
defense by saying there had been such contacts."
ZAAAPPPPP!!! ---- DSH
In fact, during President Clinton's eight years in office, there were
at least two official pronouncements of an alarming alliance between
Baghdad and al Qaeda. One came from William S. Cohen, Mr. Clinton's
defense secretary. He cited an al Qaeda-Baghdad link to justify the
bombing of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan.
Mr. Bush cited the linkage, in part, to justify invading Iraq and
ousting Saddam. He said he could not take the risk of Iraq's weapons
falling into bin Laden's hands.
The other pronouncement is contained in a Justice Department indictment
on Nov. 4, 1998, charging bin Laden with murder in the bombings of two
U.S. embassies in Africa.
The indictment disclosed a close relationship between al Qaeda and
Saddam's regime, which included specialists on chemical weapons and all
types of bombs, including truck bombs, a favorite weapon of terrorists.
The 1998 indictment said: "Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the
National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and
its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working
together against their perceived common enemies in the West,
particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an
understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work
against that government and that on particular projects, specifically
including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with
the government of Iraq."
Shortly after the embassy bombings, Mr. Clinton ordered air strikes on
al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan and on the Shifa pharmaceutical
factory in Sudan.
To justify the Sudanese plant as a target, Clinton aides said it was
involved in the production of deadly VX nerve gas. Officials further
determined that bin Laden owned a stake in the operation and that its
manager had traveled to Baghdad to learn bomb-making techniques from
Saddam's weapons scientists.
Mr. Cohen elaborated in March in testimony before the September 11
commission.
He testified that "bin Laden had been living [at the plant], that he
had, in fact, money that he had put into this military industrial
corporation, that the owner of the plant had traveled to Baghdad to meet
with the father of the VX program."
He said that if the plant had been allowed to produce VX that was used
to kill thousands of Americans, people would have asked him, " 'You had
a manager that went to Baghdad; you had Osama bin Laden, who had funded,
at least the corporation, and you had traces of [VX precursor] and you
did what? And you did nothing?' Is that a responsible activity on the
part of the secretary of defense?"
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ZAAPPPPP!!!!
And Gans, the ignorant, disingenuous, duplicitous, lying Left-Wing NYU
chemist is still insisting Saddam was NO THREAT to anyone OUTSIDE his
own country, that Saddam was being "contained" ---- and that Bush had NO
RIGHT OR REASON to depose Saddam and his regime.
Farblondjet, Farbissen und Farchadat.
PRATFALL!!!
KAWHOMP!!!
KERSPLAT!!!
D. Spencer Hines
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor
Veni, Vidi, Calcitravi Asinum.
Madhusudan Singh - 25 Jun 2004 20:11 GMT
> "Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam"
Clinton lied about lots of things.
Next ?
David Thorme - 28 Jun 2004 02:05 GMT
I don't accept that there necessarily was a link between Iraq and
Al Qaeda.
Wouldn't Alqaeda alienate Iran by linking with Saddam?
Madhusudan Singh - 28 Jun 2004 17:58 GMT
> I don't accept that there necessarily was a link between Iraq and
> Al Qaeda.
> Wouldn't Alqaeda alienate Iran by linking with Saddam?
Al Qaeda is largely Sunni. Though it did not have the kind of problems with
Iran that it had with Saddam, Iran is largely Shia. The struggle between
the two is decades old.
And links do not imply co-operation in any case. The US had links (even
formal diplomatic links) with the Soviet Union. Hardly means that the two
countries were friends.
John - 28 Jun 2004 17:24 GMT
> > "Clinton first linked al Qaeda to Saddam"
>
> Clinton lied about lots of things.
>
> Next ?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5305085/site/newsweek
Iraq and Al Qaeda
Forget the 'Poisons and Deadly Gases'
Flip flop: Was Saddam working with Al Qaeda or not?
By Michael Isikoff
Investigative Correspondent
Newsweek
July 5 issue - A captured Qaeda commander who was a principal source for
Bush administration claims that Osama bin Laden collaborated with Saddam
Hussein's regime has changed his story, setting back White House efforts
to shore up the credibility of its original case for the invasion of
Iraq. The apparent recantation of Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, a onetime
member of bin Laden's inner circle, has never been publicly
acknowledged. But U.S. intelligence officials tell NEWSWEEK that al-Libi
was a crucial source for one of the more dramatic assertions made by
President George W. Bush and his top aides: that Iraq had provided
training in "poisons and deadly gases" for Al Qaeda. Al-Libi, who once
ran one of bin Laden's biggest training camps, was captured in Pakistan
in November 2001 and soon began talking to CIA interrogators. Although
he never mentioned his name, Secretary of State Colin Powell prominently
referred to al-Libi's claims in his February 2003 speech to the United
Nations; he recounted how a "senior terrorist operative" said Qaeda
leaders were frustrated by their inability to make chemical or
biological agents in Afghanistan and turned for help to Iraq. Continuing
to rely on al-Libi's version, Powell then told how a bin Laden operative
seeking help in acquiring poisons and gases had forged a "successful"
relationship with Iraqi officials in the late 1990s and that, as
recently as December 2000, Iraq had offered "chemical or biological
weapons training for two Al Qaeda associates."
But more recently, sources said, U.S. interrogators went back to al-Libi
with new evidence from other detainees that cast doubt on his claims.
Al-Libi "subsequently recounted a different story," said one U.S.
official. "It's not clear which version is correct. We are still sorting
this out." Some officials now suspect that al-Libi, facing aggressive
interrogation techniques, had previously said what U.S. officials wanted
to hear. In any case, the cloud over his story explains why
administration officials have made no mention of the "poisons and gases"
claim for some time and did not more forcefully challenge the recent
findings of the 9-11 Commission that Al Qaeda and Iraq had not forged a
?"collaborative relationship."
The debate, however, is far from over. Vice President Dick Cheney has
sought to more vigorously defend the Iraq- Qaeda link, even reading to
one TV interviewer from a U.S. intelligence report recounting a meeting
between an Iraqi intel official and bin Laden on a farm in Sudan in the
summer of 1996. (One possible problem: bin Laden had left Sudan for
Afghanistan in May of that year.) Meanwhile, NEWSWEEK has learned,
Pentagon officials are culling through captured Iraqi documents they say
will provide hard evidence of multiple contacts between Iraqi officials
and Qaeda members over a decade. Current plans call for a massive
"document dump" before the election. But officials acknowledge ultimate
proof may prove elusive. "It all depends on what your definition of a
relationship is," said one.
2004 Newsweek, Inc.

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David Thorme - 28 Jun 2004 01:51 GMT
Clinton told us several times of great danger from terrorist groups who
could acquire WOMD'S. H e wanted to take strong action against Iraq when
Saddam threw the weapons inspectors out.
THE PROBLEM, OF COURSE WAS A REPUBLICAN CONGRESS THAT DIDN'T
CARE ABOUT ANYTHING THAT DIDN'T HAVE LEWINSKY'S NAME IN IT!!
Note to D Hines. Please reply to my post of 6/27 "Brutal" Book
Review.........