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History Forum / General / General Topics / July 2008Six Million” Untrue According to Neutral Swiss
“Six Million” Untrue According to Neutral Swiss Excluding the Soviet Union, the number of Jews in Nazi-occupied Europe after emigration was scarcely more than 3 million, by no means all of whom were interned. To approach the extermination of even half of six million would have meant the liquidation of every Jew living in Europe. Nothing better illustrates the declining plausibility of the Six Million legend than the fact that the prosecution at the Eichmann trial deliberately avoided mentioning the figure. Moreover, official Jewish estimates of the casualties are being quietly revised downwards. Our analysis of the population and emigration statistics, as well as the studies by the Swiss “Baseler Nachrichten” and Professor Rassinier, demonstrate that it would have been simply impossible for the number of Jewish casualties to have exceeded a limit of one and a half million. Doubtless, several thousand Jewish people did die in the course of the Second World War, but this must be seen in the context of a war that cost many millions of innocent victims on all sides. To put the matter in perspective, for example, we may point out that 700,000 Russian civilians died during the siege of Leningrad, and a total of 2,050,000 German civilians were killed in Allied air raids and forced repatriation after (Operation Keelhaul) after the war. The question most pertinent to the extermination legend is, of course: Ho many of the 3 million European Jews, under German control, survived after 1945? The Jewish Joint Distribution Committee estimated the number of survivors in Europe to be only one and half million, but such a figure is now totally unacceptable. This is proven by the growing number of Jews calming compensation from the West German Government for having allegedly suffered between 1939 and 1945. By 1965, the number of these claimants registered with the West German Government had tripled in ten years and reached 3,375,000. (Aufbau, June 30th, 1965) Nothing could be a more devastating proof of the brazen fantasy of the Six Million. Most of these claimants are Jews, so there can be no doubt that the majority of the 3 million Jews who experienced the Nazi occupation of Europe are, in fact, very much alive. It is a resounding confirmation of the fact that Jewish casualties during the Second World War can only be estimated at a figure in thousands. (snip "Holocaust revisionism" drivel) Deal with the facts, doper. http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen01.jpg http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen02.jpg http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/dachau-corpses.GIF http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm Mass graves found at Nazi camp Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi death camp in north-eastern Poland. The research team, which began its government-sponsored investigation in the summer, said the graves -- the largest of which is about half the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains. </quote> RJ. Off topic rubbish snipped. > “Six Million” Untrue According to Neutral Swiss > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > million would have meant the liquidation of every Jew living > in Europe.< That is sheer nonsense. There were nearly 3.5 million Jews in Poland alone,. and over 10 million altogether in Europe plus the USSR. On Jul 17, 3:33 am, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyam...@alltimes.yep> wrote: > “Six Million” Untrue According to Neutral Swiss > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > million would have meant the liquidation of every Jew living > in Europe.< >That is sheer nonsense. There were nearly 3.5 million Jews in Poland >alone,. and over 10 million altogether in Europe plus the USSR. Horseshit. The World Almanac figures do not agree with you garbageguz. > On Jul 17, 3:33 am, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyam...@alltimes.yep> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Horseshit. The World Almanac figures do not agree with you garbageguz. Never heard of them. Don't they do weather reports and stuff like that? > On Jul 17, 3:33 am, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyam...@alltimes.yep> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Horseshit. The World Almanac figures do not agree with you garbageguz. "World Almanac figures for WWII era Jewish population totals show no net loss" Quote: Originally Posted by MuadDib World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population- 15,319,359 World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population- 15,713,638 World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population- 14,117,000 http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/peopl...n/world-almanac From the website: The Tavish is simply propagating one of the standard denier myths that reappears from time to time. The problem has nothing whatever to do with rates of population increase or anything like that. It has to do with how frequently the World Almanac's sources had access to fresh estimates of religious populations. Whoever first started propagating World Almanac figures neglected to mention that all figures before 1949 were from 1938 estimates. Since the year of etimate is given at the top of the chart it is difficult to believe that the originator did not intentionally mean to decieve by negelecting this key piece of information. I have posted the following correction several times: The University of Alberta library has the World Almanac issues for the pertinent period for 1941, 1944, 1947, 1948, and 1949. The figures listed for total world Jewish population are as follows: 1941 15,748,091 1944 15,192,089 1947 15,688,259 1948 15,688,259 1949 11,266,600 Now you may be wondering what happened to all those Jews in 1948-49. No fresh estimates were made between 1938 and 1947. The figures listed for 1941, 1947, and 1948 are identified as estimates made in 1938. The source for the estimate for 1944 is not given, and the numbers are listed differently than in other years. In 1944, the numbers are given as a part of a list of various world religions rather than standing on their own with a country-by-country breakdown as in the other years. Only in 1949 are postwar estimates employed, the figures given are for estimates made in 1948. A year or two lag seems to be common for various other population estimates given by the World Almanac. The difference between the 1938 and 1948 figures is thus 4,481,491. In 1949, however, the World Almanac gives a revised 1939 population of 16,643,120 giving a difference of between 1938 and 1947 of 5,376,520. Where the extra population between 1938 and 1939 came from is not cited, though one might speculate that it was based upon the Nazi estimates made in 1942 for the Wannsee Conference. Despite the apparent exactness of the numbers listed, the World Almanac warns that all numbers listed are estimates. Descendant On Jul 18, 7:00 pm, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyamh...@themoment.yo> wrote: > "jgarbuz" <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Horseshit. The World Almanac figures do not agree with you garbageguz. "World Almanac figures for WWII era Jewish population totals show no net loss" Quote: Originally Posted by MuadDib World Almanac, 1940, pg. 129: World Jewish Population- 15,319,359 World Almanac, 1949, pg. 289: World Jewish Population- 15,713,638 World Almanac, 1996, pg. 646: World Jewish Population- 14,117,000 http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/peopl...n/world-almanac From the website: The Tavish is simply propagating one of the standard denier myths that reappears from time to time. The problem has nothing whatever to do with rates of population increase or anything like that. It has to do with how frequently the World Almanac's sources had access to fresh estimates of religious populations. Whoever first started propagating World Almanac figures neglected to mention that all figures before 1949 were from 1938 estimates. Since the year of etimate is given at the top of the chart it is difficult to believe that the originator did not intentionally mean to decieve by negelecting this key piece of information. I have posted the following correction several times: The University of Alberta library has the World Almanac issues for the pertinent period for 1941, 1944, 1947, 1948, and 1949. The figures listed for total world Jewish population are as follows: 1941 15,748,091 1944 15,192,089 1947 15,688,259 1948 15,688,259 1949 11,266,600 Now you may be wondering what happened to all those Jews in 1948-49. No fresh estimates were made between 1938 and 1947. The figures listed for 1941, 1947, and 1948 are identified as estimates made in 1938. The source for the estimate for 1944 is not given, and the numbers are listed differently than in other years. In 1944, the numbers are given as a part of a list of various world religions rather than standing on their own with a country-by-country breakdown as in the other years. Only in 1949 are postwar estimates employed, the figures given are for estimates made in 1948. A year or two lag seems to be common for various other population estimates given by the World Almanac. The difference between the 1938 and 1948 figures is thus 4,481,491. In 1949, however, the World Almanac gives a revised 1939 population of 16,643,120 giving a difference of between 1938 and 1947 of 5,376,520. Where the extra population between 1938 and 1939 came from is not cited, though one might speculate that it was based upon the Nazi estimates made in 1942 for the Wannsee Conference. Despite the apparent exactness of the numbers listed, the World Almanac warns that all numbers listed are estimates. Descendant BBBWWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH You crack me up garbageguz. There is level to which you refuse to stoop, nor no lie you will not tell to prop up your Holocaust(tm) shite. > On Jul 18, 7:00 pm, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyamh...@themoment.yo> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 87 lines] > You crack me up garbageguz. There is level to which you refuse to stoop, nor > no lie you will not tell to prop up your Holocaust(tm) shite. It is your Denial Myth that is slowly but surely falling apart, Cretin. Your "case" against the Holocaust is being taken apart, brick by brick. It should have been done 30 years ago, but we made the egregious mistake of merely dismissing you kooks out of hand and thereby letting youse run rampant and take center stage for too long. That was our arrogant mistake. But no more. The Leuchter objection has been met and disproved. All the conspiratorial issues are being met and struck down one by one. You had your 15 minutes of fame, but the truth will prevail and is prevailing. You can keep repeating your distortions but they no longer resonate in the face of hard science and hard facts. So do your duty and follow your Fuehrer into the grave, and take your dog with you. On Jul 18, 10:17 pm, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyamh...@themoment.yo> wrote: > "jgarbuz" <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > nor > no lie you will not tell to prop up your Holocaust(tm) shite. >It is your Denial Myth that is slowly but surely falling apart, >Cretin. Your "case" against the Holocaust is being taken apart, brick >by brick. Entirely arse about face, garbageguz. Despite the threat of incarceration, many more people are startin to publicly voice their concerns over the yid's version of events. > On Jul 18, 10:17 pm, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyamh...@themoment.yo> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > Despite the threat of incarceration, many more people are startin to > publicly voice their concerns over the yid's version of events.< Many still deny the veracity of Evolution, or that the world is spherical and not flat. There are all kinds of deniers, but science will eventually provide all the answers. You deniers got as far as you did only because too many JEws either dismissed you out of hand, or used inappropriate suppression tactics, that invariably backfire. Now that the Deniers are being taken on in a straightforward scientific way, your arguments are crumbling. You're the ones now getting hysterical. On Jul 19, 9:21 am, "B. H. Cramer" <Iyamh...@themoment.yo> wrote: > "jgarbuz" <jgar...@netzero.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > Despite the threat of incarceration, many more people are startin to > publicly voice their concerns over the yid's version of events.< >Many still deny the veracity of Evolution, or that the world is >spherical and not flat. There are all kinds of deniers, but science >will eventually provide all the answers. Science has not been permitted to go anywhere near your Holocaust(tm) b'ullshit, garbageguz. Why might that be do you suppose? > Science has not been permitted to go anywhere near your Holocaust(tm) > b'ullshit, Not so, doper. Please stop lying through your brownish teeth. A study of the cyanide compounds in the Auschwitz gas chambers can be found in http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/iffr/report.shtml Some pointers to the investigation of mass graves in the death camps are provided below: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm Mass graves found at Nazi camp Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi death camp in north-eastern Poland. The research team, which began its government-sponsored investigation in the summer, said the graves -- the largest of which is about half the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains. </quote> A very elaborate study of the mass graves in the Belzec death camp was conducted a few years ago by a team of Polish archaeologists, headed by Prof. Andrzej Kola from the University of Torun in Poland, who is the author of more than 130 papers on archaeology. The team studied the site of the death camp, drilling 1,700 bore holes and investigating the core samples. The results are summarized in an 84 page report (ANDRZEJ KOLA: "BELZEC. THE NAZI CAMP FOR JEWS IN THE LIGHT OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SOURCES. Excavations 1997-1999". ISBN 83-905590-6-4). The study has recovered human remains over a very large area, to a depth of up to six meters. The minimal estimate to the volume of the graves is 21,000 cubic meters. RJ. |
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