Academics and Others Who Have Been Persecuted by the Holocaust(tm) Industry
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B. H. Cramer - 17 Jul 2008 12:52 GMT Guenter Deckert was arrested and served five years in prison in Germany for translating a speech by Fred Leuchter into German.
Germar Rudolf Accused, tried and convicted in Germany. Career and doctorate dissertation ruined. Driven into exile.
Background and contribution:
This brilliant, German-trained chemist re-examined Auschwitz, Birkenau and other installations and buildings, testing rocks, soil and other physical samples for traces of Zyklon B.
Following the pioneering work of Fred Leuchter, he put the final nail into the coffin of the Auschwitz story. Even though he did scientific work and was utterly apolitical, Rudolf's home and office were raided, computers seized etc. He was charged and tried in Germany for not believing in the standard Auschwitz story. As a scientist, he found the "gassing" claims to be scientifically untenable and, therefore, absurd.
A modern day Galileo, Rudolf was found guilty and convicted because he refused to renounce scientific facts and his own scientific tests and findings. He was facing jail when he went into exile with his young wife and two babies. He now edits and publishes devastating refutations of the Allied Propaganda claims in a German-language journal. The Holocaust Enforcers are dogging his steps, and he faces endless hassles and trials, should the "German" vassal authorities ever get a hold of him. Z|ndel expert witness in chemistry in the Munich trial in 1991 - disallowed by the judge at the request of the prosecution.
Ahmed Rami Tried, convicted and imprisoned in Sweden. Background and contribution: Rami is a former Moroccan military officer living in exile in Sweden, where he used to run "Radio Islam", a radio program that was closed down due to Holocaust Lobby pressure.
He was tried and convicted in Sweden for his Revisionist views and served a nine month prison term. Now he runs a much-visited, multilingual website famous the world over, which has come under repeated attack by French and Swedish Jewish sources. He won several court skirmishes, and for the moment seems to hold his own.
An outspoken German Nationalist was sentenced Thursday to two years in prison without parole for "denying" the Holocaust. Manfred Roeder, 70, was sentenced for having refered to the Holocaust as "humbug" during an August 1998 election rally in the eastern German city of Stralsund.
With no First Amendment to protect them, Germans face legal action for questioning the orthodox Holocaust story. The rally at which Roeder spoke part of his parliamentary campaign as a candidate for the National Party of Germany. His imprisonment clearly makes him a "political prisoner" in Germany.
During his trial, Roeder said a tape of his speech had been "manipulated and falsified." Roeder asserted that statements that would have cleared him were edited out. The judge, however, agreed with three witnesses who said the tape was genuine. The Roeder case exemplifies the lack of freedom in today's Germany.
Adapted from: The Associated Press Thursday, Dec. 2, 1999; 12:52 p.m. EST
Udo Walendy Convicted and imprisoned in Germany for 15 months, even though already in his seventies and in poor health with a serious heart condition.
Background and contribution: A prolific German researcher, writer and publisher of numerous books and a series of popular booklets called "Historische Tatsachen"- ("Historical Truths") including the German version of "Did Six Million Really Die?" and the German language version of the Leuchter Report #1 - Walendy was dragged before the courts numerous times. His home and offices were frequently raided by the police. Business files, books, printing plates and computers were confiscated. Z|ndel advisor and witness in the 1985 and 1988 Great Holocaust Trials.
Austrian engineer, Froelich, says gassings impossible as alleged Posted by Hannover on June 14, 2000 at 20:57:56:
Deposition of Wolfgang Froelich during the recent trial of Swiss revisionist Jurgen Graf (condemned to 15 months imprisonment and 18,000 SwF in monetary penalties for investigating the "Holocaust" in Russian archives and publishing the results, as well as a booklet titled "On the Decline of Swiss Freedom").
Froelich is an Austrian engineer and an expert witness whose field of expertise are process engineering and gas applications. He told the court he has carried out numerous gassings to exterminate pests and infectious microbes. Here is how he answers the questions by public prosecutor Aufdenblatten:
Aufdenblatten: "In your opinion were mass gassings with Zyklon B possible?"
Froelich: "No".
Aufdenblatten: "Why not?"
Froelich: "The pesticide Zyklon B is hydrocyanic acid absorbed in a granular-shaped carrier substance. It is released though contact with the air. The evaporation point of hydrocyanic acid is 25.7 degrees (Celsius). The higher the temperature, the more rapid is the rate of evaporation. The delousing chambers in which Zyklon B was used in NS (German wartime) camps and elsewhere were heated to 30 degrees and higher, so that the hydrocyanic acid would be released rapidly from the carrier granules. However, in the half-underground mortuaries of the Auschwitz-Birkenau crematories, where witnesses claim that mass killings with Zyklon B took place, the temperatures were much lower.
Even if one allows for the warming of the spaces by the body warmth of the hypothetical prisoners, the temperature would not have been more than 15 degrees, even in summer time.
Consequently, it would have taken many hours for the hydrocyanic acid to evaporate.
"According to eyewitness reports, the victims died very quickly. The witnesses mention time frames of 'instantaneous' to '15 minutes'. To be able to kill the gas chamber prisoners in such a short time, the Germans would have had to use ridiculously large amounts of Zyklon-I estimate from 40 to 50 kilograms for each gassing.
This would have made any work in the gas chamber fundamentally impossible. The special detachment (Sonderkommando) people, whom the witnesses say were assigned the task of clearing out (dead bodies) from them (the gas chambers), would have collapsed immediately upon entering the rooms, even if they were wearing gas masks. Enormous amounts of hydrocyanic acid would have streamed out into the open, and would have poisoned the entire camp".
Froehlich's statement corroborates the investigations and declarations of such specialists as gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter, Austrian engineer Walter Lueftl, American research chemist William B. Lindsay, German chemist Germar Rudolf, and German engineer Wofgang Schuster.
Now comes another interesting bit. Immediately following Froelich's statement, here is what public prosecutor Aufdenblatten had to say to him:
Aufdenblatten: "I hereby ask the court to bring charges against you for racial discrimination, on the basis of Article 261 (the Anti-Racism Law) or otherwise I'll do it myself".
So this is how Zyklon B killed all the millions and why "Anti-Racism" Laws are needed!
Defence attorney Stehrenberger could only inform the court that in view of this blatant intimidation of the witness , he would withdraw from the case. He later expressed again his objections to the amazing proceedings, and resumed his duties as defence attorney. To no avail, of course:
Judge Andrea Staubli (to Graf): "Can't you imagine that Jews feel offended by your books?"
Graf: "Yes, and many non-Jews as well. The brain-washing has been so thorough that anyone who inadvertently stumbles upon the truth would be completely upset".
Staubli: "And don't you care if Jews feel offended by your books?"
Graf: "Edgar Bronfman (the president of the Jewish World Congress) said recently that Switzerland is like a man who has to have his feet held in the fire before he sees reason. Can't you imagine that a Swiss person would feel offended by that? Why is it that only Jewish feelings are taken into account and never the feelings of non-Jews?"
Graf got his 15 months and 18,000 SwF. His publisher Gerhard Foerster-a 78 years old man suffering from several illnesses, who needs a wheel chair to go around-got 12 months imprisonment and 53,000 SwF, assorted financial punishment.
A prime example of the persecution of the Holocaust questioners is the story of historian David Irving. His books are found in almost every library in the world. Irving has written more than thirty volumes on the Second World War published by a half dozen of the most prominent publishers in the Western World, including: The Viking Press, Harper & Row, Little, Brown, Simon & Schuster, and Avon Books.
The most respected historians in the world, including A.J.P. Taylor, Trevor Roper, Gordon Craig, and Stephen Ambrose have praised his works. He has researched in the German State Archives for more than thirty years, as well as in the U.S. National Archives, the British Public Records Office, the government archives of Australia, France, Italy and Canada,-and even the former Soviet Secret State Archives.
He was the first historian to challenge the validity of the widely heralded (and later debunked) _Hitler_Diaries_ [846] In the course of his wideranging research, Irving has uncovered many documents that challenge parts of the Holocaust orthodoxy.
While he was in Germany, Irving quoted the videotaped admission of the head curator of the Auschwitz State Museum, Dr. Francizek Piper.
Piper had admitted that the facility shown to the world (and more than 40 million visitors) for 40 years - as a genuine Nazi-built gas chamber - is not authentic. Polish Communists had actually built it after the war. For simply quoting Piper's admission, the governent charged Irving with "Defaming the memory of the dead."
Although he had clear evidence proving the truth of his statement, Irving was forbidden to present it at his trial or even to call Dr. Piper as a witness. For making his statements of historical fact, the German government fined him 30,000 marks. In "the German State's interest" they banned him from using the German State Archives where he had labored for more than thirty years, and to which he had donated priceless collections of original documents.
The German government has now banned him from the country. Canada, France, Austria, Italy, South Africa, Australia and many other nations have subsequently banned him at the behest of the Jews. His publishers have been harassed and intimidated into canceling contracts. He has been physically attacked and has had lectures broken up by pipe-wielding thugs.
In Canada, at the request of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the authorities seized, shackled, and deported him from the country in handcuffs. The Toronto Globe & Mail asked why he had been handcuffed and then answered its own question, 'Did someone think he might use his typewriter?'
With the American tradition of First Amendment rights, few realize that in the so-called "Free World" it is possible for a historian to be jailed simply for voicing an opinion about a historical event of 50 years ago. Speaking inside his home near the U.S. embassy in London, Irving did an interview with a French television station, again repeating the fact that the main gas chambers shown to tourists at Auschwitz are fakes. For making this statement in his own living room in London, he was prosecuted in the Paris courts. In France, it is illegal to challenge any of the crimes against humanity as alleged in the Nuremberg Trials Charter of 1945 - even if one does so in his own home and in another country.
There are those who say that we should not debate aspects of the Holocaust anymore than we should debate those who say the world is flat. Yet, would any knowledgeable person be afraid to debate an advocate of the flat Earth theory? Would he urge the passage of laws to prevent the advocate of that theory from speaking, writing or publishing? Would he try to have his livelihood destroyed, have him fined thousands of dollars, and if that did not work, cast him into prison?
I believe in freedom of speech because I am not afraid. I believe that my ideas are well reasoned and that I can back up my opinions with logic and evidence. In an atmosphere of free and open discussion, I fear not, for there is not a truth that I dread. What do the opponents of David Irving, or of all revisionists, fear?
Our libraries and schools are extremely well stocked with Holocaust literature. Newspapers and magazines surge with an endless stream of related stories. Theater and television screens light up with drama, commentary, interviews, and images of the Holocaust. It would seem that with this much overkill, there should be little to fear from the David Irvings of the world - unless of course, they think that his evidence is convincing, his reasoning sound and his presentation eloquent. Thus, to protect their popular version of the Holocaust, they seek to hound this man to the ends of the Earth.
What "historical fact" is so weak that it must be protected by terror, by jail, and deportation? What do the opponents of David Irving and the other revisionists fear? Are the revisionist arguments so convincing that their opponents must use naked political oppression to silence them?
RJ11 - 17 Jul 2008 13:00 GMT > Froelich: "The pesticide Zyklon B is hydrocyanic acid absorbed in a > granular-shaped carrier substance. It is released though > contact with the air. The evaporation point of hydrocyanic acid is > 25.7 degrees (Celsius). No, retard. It evaporates at far lower temperatures. See for example http://www.holocaust-history.org/works/peters-rasch-1941/htm/intro000.htm, which reports the application of Zyklon at temperatures as low as -10 C.
RJ.
Zulu - 17 Jul 2008 20:33 GMT > In article <3qCdnbFGE6IKr-LVnZ2dnUVZ_snin...@giganews.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > examplehttp://www.holocaust-history.org/works/peters-rasch-1941/htm/intro000..., > which reports the application of Zyklon at temperatures as low as -10 C. OK genius, then my question must be easy to answer for you
I didn't find any convincing explanation for the deliberate waste of at least half of the weight of Zyclon B used at each operation according with the modus operandi of *industrial gassings* supported by the DOGMA.
I would be interested in having some example of the way SS calculated their ZB doses on their *industrial operations* and how they did manage to put the double of the weight normally required to gas people in a room.
So, please, give me an example of calculation the SS did to state the MINIMUM weight of Zyclon pellets required to their standard *industrial gassing operations*.
To avoid numeric values you can take those parameters:
Room's volume = V
Room's temperature = not defined (from -15ºC to 30 ºC)
Time to kill all people: 15 min
HCN content per g of ZB = c (g/g)
HCN concentration in air to kill = k (g per m3)
HCN Evaporation curves http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/Image19.gif
As such *industrial operations* had to be repeated hundreds of times the calculation of ZB's weight needed was fixed once for all, wasn't it?
So, I am waiting.
RJ11 - 17 Jul 2008 22:31 GMT > So, please, give me an example of calculation the SS did to state the > MINIMUM weight of Zyclon pellets required to their standard > *industrial gassing operations*. During what duration of time, retard?
RJ.
Zulu - 17 Jul 2008 22:57 GMT > In article <2f57981e-d366-4fc2-a509-c58beab5f...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > During what duration of time, retard? Retard? RETARD??? Look who's talking... WOW, you're more idiotic than you pretend...
OK, I repeat the parameters, just for you:
<quote zulu>
To avoid numeric values you can take those parameters:
Room's volume = V m3
Room's temperature = not defined (from -15ºC to 30 ºC)
Time to kill all people: 15 min
HCN content per g of ZB = c (g/g)
HCN concentration in air to kill = k (g per m3)
HCN Evaporation curves http://vho.org/GB/Books/trr/Image19.gif
</quote zulu>
Did you see that line *Time to kill all people: 15 min* ???????????????
So, *Time to kill all people: 15 min* means that the gassing operation is out after 15 mn and Zyclon pellets must be retired and thrown away as da DOGMA tells.
Gat da pictar?
Go back to work, now
RJ11 - 17 Jul 2008 23:11 GMT >> During what duration of time, retard?
> Retard? RETARD??? Yes, retard.
> So, *Time to kill all people: 15 min* means that the gassing > operation is out after 15 mn > and Zyclon pellets must be retired and thrown away as da DOGMA tells. "Zyclon pellets must be retired"?
Did you have a point, retard? What is your claim, assuming you have one?
By the way, retard, since you assert that the Nazis were extremely efficient and didn't want to waste resources, you must agree that they wouldn't have built all these huge crematoriums in Auschwitz unless they *really* needed them, right? And they didn't assign nearly 900 workers to these crematoriums unless that manpower was *really* required, right?
RJ.
ZULU - 18 Jul 2008 17:03 GMT >>> During what duration of time, retard? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > didn't assign nearly 900 workers to these crematoriums unless that > manpower was *really* required, right? Pretty diversion.
Time is 15 mn. Go to work and stop sh.tting.
Frank Arthur - 18 Jul 2008 12:24 GMT "Zulu" <zulu@volcanomail.com> If it weren't for the constant reminders by neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers and assorted demented Jew-haters we might forget about WWII and what the Germans did there.No modern,technically advanced nation in the world ever brought so much destruction,murder, torture, suffering and human degradation than Germans under the Nazi banner during that historical era.No other people ever financed, organized and built gas chambers & crematoria dedicated to the widespread slaughter of huge numbers of human beings. No other country in the world organized a rail transportation system dedicated to rounding up,primarily Jews specifically, to be delivered to various concentration camps for gassing to death or working to death ordinary innocent civillians for no other reason except their ethnicity.No other people, than Germans, ever organized the removal of gold teeth from the cadavers, nor has any other harvest female human hair to be sold for industrial purposes of the German war machine. Germans paid for their support of Nazism and Hitler by having their cities destroyed, surrendered unconditionallY,occupied and forever in history suffer an indelible stain for their barbarism forever. Because of their invasion of Russia- believed by the meglomaniac Hitler,"would take Russia in 9 months"- resulted in Russia becoming one of the largest military & nuclear powers in the world. Three generations of Germans are and have been a democracy by choice and distance themselves from their horrible past. Only the remnant dregs of wannabe Nazis or fellow illusionists, who glory in the "good old days of carnage" glorify Hitler and continue to hate Jews. Germany's Chancellor(freely elected by the German people) Angela Merkel, addressed the Knesset, Israel's parliament, during a special session of the Knesset in Jerusalem. She said,"Germany and Israel are linked "in a very special way" by the memory of the Holocaust, in which 6 million Jews were killed under Nazi Germany and its allies in World War II, she said in the first address a German chancellor has ever made to the Knesset. "The Holocaust fills us with shame," she said. "I bow my head before the survivors and I bow my head before you in tribute to the fact that you were able to survive." Anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia "must never take root again in Germany or in Europe," she said, and vowed to battle any flare-ups." Those Jew haters also hate Chancellor Merkel and consider the democratic German people fools too.
TurkeyBoy - 17 Jul 2008 13:05 GMT “The holocaust has proven to be an indispensible ideological weapon. Through its deployment, one of the world’s most formidable military powers, with an horrendous human rights record, has cast itself as a victim state, and the most successful ethnic group in the us has likewise acquired victim status. Considerable dividends accure from this specious victimhood – in particular, immunity to criticizm, however justified.” Norman G. Finkelstein
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> Guenter Deckert was arrested and served five years in prison in > Germany for translating a speech by Fred Leuchter into German. [quoted text clipped - 266 lines] > convincing that their opponents must use naked political oppression to > silence them?
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