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History Forum / General / General Topics / July 2008Question for Yougenie
Did Hitler order, on November 30, 1941, that there was to be 'no liquidation' of the Jews?" > Did Hitler order, on November 30, 1941, that there was to be 'no > liquidation' of the Jews?" (yaawn) http://www.hdot.org/trial/defense/evans/430div?keyword=riga Very weak, doper. Very, very weak. RJ. > Did Hitler order, on November 30, 1941, that there was to be 'no > liquidation' of the Jews?" On November 30, 1941 Himmler called from Hitler's headquarters in East Prussia and ordered "Judentransport aus Berlin, keine Liquidierung" ['Transport of Jews from Berlin. No liquidation'] with reference to a trainload of 1,000 Jews that had arrived at a train station outside Riga from Berlin late the previous night, but it was too late. SS-Obergruppenführer Friedrich Jeckeln had begun the liquidation of the Berlin Jews at six in the morning at Rumbula, a specially prepared killing site outside Riga. For details, see http://books.google.fi/books?id=jHQdRHNdK44C&pg=PA396&lpg=PA396&dq=%22keine+liqu idierung%22+riga+himmler&source=web&ots=KunbPaxMhQ&sig=LstVnLiHT_H_51wx8Luk2_jLd Rc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result. Regards, Eugene Holman > On November 30, 1941 Himmler called from Hitler's headquarters in East > Prussia and ordered "Judentransport aus Berlin, keine Liquidierung" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Berlin Jews at six in the morning at Rumbula, a specially prepared killing > site outside Riga. I wonder whether the "Cramer" thing asks itself why was such an order required at all? By the way, the order seems to have been with regard to only one person on the train -- details in the link I posted. RJ. >> On November 30, 1941 Himmler called from Hitler's headquarters in East >> Prussia and ordered "Judentransport aus Berlin, keine Liquidierung" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > RJ. And cramer says he never lies. On Jul 17, 2:05 pm, "I'll Always Be Here" <aussiess...@invalid.invalid> wrote: > > In article <holman-1707081745310...@ke-hupnet183-26.hupnet.helsinki.fi>, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > And cramer says he never lies. I really have nothing intelligent to add to this argument. So I'll just say that I think your brains are made of cantaloupe. All you have to do to reproduce is to shake out the seeds in your head over some fertile dirt in the early spring and PRESTO! A new melon is born! If all of us only had it so easy. > On Jul 17, 2:05 pm, "I'll Always Be Here" > <aussiess...@invalid.invalid> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > I really have nothing intelligent to add to this argument. How true. So I'll > just say that I think your brains are made of cantaloupe. All you > have to do to reproduce is to shake out the seeds in your head over > some fertile dirt in the early spring and PRESTO! A new melon is > born! If all of us only had it so easy. How fortunate for the rest of us that it's so incredibly hard for your tribe to reproduce. >> Did Hitler order, on November 30, 1941, that there was to be 'no >> liquidation' of the Jews?" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Regards, > Eugene Holman My question to you, yougenie, required no more than a yes/no response. Please try again if you will. >>> Did Hitler order, on November 30, 1941, that there was to be 'no >>> liquidation' of the Jews?" [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> http://books.google.fi/books?id=jHQdRHNdK44C&pg=PA396&lpg=PA396&dq=%22ke >> ine+liquidierung%22 +riga+himmler&source=web&ots=KunbPaxMhQ&sig=LstVnLiHT >> _H_51wx8Luk2_jLdRc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Please try again if you will. Nice try at twisting the meaning of words. Your question is obviously meant to elicit much more than a yes or no answer? <deletions> > My question to you, yougenie, required no more than a yes/no response. > > Please try again if you will. <quote> Did Hitler order, on November 30, 1941, that there was to be 'no >> liquidation' of the Jews?" </quote> No. Regards, Eugene Holman P.S. Sorry for the delayed response, I was away in New York City over the weekend. > In article <y-idnWvlyvsVpeLVnZ2dnUVZ_vzin...@giganews.com>, "B. H. Cramer" > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Regards, > Eugene Holman Arbitrariness of Himmler; the Berlin Jews would have perished anyway even if Himmler got them a temporary stay of execution. Perhaps a compensatory measure of the mind involved in comprehensive large scale killing of other human beings. Michael Ragland |
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