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am05@hotmail.com - 29 Jun 2009 20:51 GMT 1.Merovingian warfare
Very few things are definitely known about the Franks:
They had been named after slightly misspelled currency unit. It is not totally clear, which exactly because there used to be numerous candidates within BT (Luxemburg and Liechtenstein being the most probable ones).
Initially, they were ruled by the Merovingian dynasty named after its founder, Clovis. Later, this dynasty had been replaced by the Carolingian dynasty named after its founder, Pepin [1]. Later, in a total break-up with a historical tradition, they switched to a Capetian dynasty founded by a person nicknamed ‘Capet’. Why brother of a Capetian king founded Valouis dynasty and why this name was later extended to the remote relatives is anybody’s guess.
Initial Frankish military successes had been attributed to a revolutionary tactics: unlike many other Germanic nations with their traditional attachment to a fist-fighting, they were defeating their opponents by throwing various items at them. After a short period of experimentation [2], they came to an obvious conclusion that the most effective way to win is to throw a book at your opponent [3]. Of course, to throw the book, you should have one. Initially, this posed a problem (books had been in a rather short supply in a Lower Rhine area and the Franks had to limit themselves to throwing the axes) but after Clovis converted to Catholic Christianity the book supply ceased to be a problem and his successors kept extending their initial domain.
Unfortunately, while being quite effective against the infantry, this tactics proved to be of a limited usefulness against the invading mounted Muslims [4]. Under the leadership of Charles Martel some important developments took place: (a) cognac of his name had been marketed [5] and (b) the Franks figured out how to ride horses [6]. Of course, a traditional description of the Frankish army at Tour describes them as a frozen wall but it was recently proven by Bernard Bachrach [7] that this was just a misleading metaphor [8], an opinion with which we are in a complete agreement.
During the Pepinish- and post-Pepinish times, Frankish warfare passed through a truly revolutionary change: if it was close to impossible to put Merovingian Frank on a horseback, it became almost as impossible to take Carolingian one off the horse. Of course, there was a transitional period when the people had been somewhat confused by the ever-evolving regulations and sometimes, instead of coming at the assembly point on a horseback wearing chain mail and carrying sword, shield and helmet, a landowner would come on foot with the herd of 50 – 60 cows [9]. Or, as a result of taking regulations regarding raising infantry from the small holders literarily, the local count would end up with a cart filled up with the parts of a human anatomy [10]. Or, due to a presumably unintentional [11] misspelling in the instruction, person would find himself entitled to take not simply water and wood but also unspecified “loot” from the villages on his way. Even the seemingly clear regulations like forbidding to toast each other under the pain of enforced sobriety, did not always produce the intended result because the inventive Franks simply switched to toasting themselves or drinking the health of the ladies present and absent or, even better, drinking the royal health [12]. All of the above used to keep the opponents in a state of a permanent confusion [13] and, as a result, the Franks ended up with having a huge empire on their hands.
2. Post-Frankish (knightly) Warfare
As was wisely remarked by Verbruggen, one of the most important developments in the medieval warfare was creation of a comfortable saddle. Being supported by such a saddle both in front and back, a properly armored knight could feel himself quite safe from anything except the annoying gnats and mosquitoes [14]. Of course, there was still an issue of falling sidewise but, as was time and again pointed by the same author, a solution was found in packing knightly formations so densely that the knights simply had nowhere to fell [15].
In addition to these basic skills, the knights had been taught to follow various commands, like “Heel”, “Sit”, “Stay”, “Come”, “Stand”, “Go Ahead” and, in the most disciplined bodies, like the Templars [16], even “Fetch”, “Roll Over!” and “Leave it”. Of course, there were reasonable limits to such training and even the Knights Templar had regulations saying that a knight may leave formation without permission if he sees (a) a fellow Christian attacked by a Muslim, or (b) some nice looking wench, or (c) some unattended (or inadequately guarded) piece of property [17].
Signals by the standards and trumpets also played an important role in the knightly warfare. To start with, a knight was supposed to fight only as long as (a) he can see a standard of his superior and (b) can hear his side’s trumpets. These rules were, of course, of a great practical importance for the most talented medieval strategists and tacticians: with a proper bribe discretely passed to the opponent’s standard bearer and trumpeter, an outstanding victory could be easily won without unnecessary bloodshed and with a minimal risk. The main obstacle to a full-scaled implementation of this strategy was a notorious shortage of coin during the Middle Ages [18]. On an individual level, a knight could easily pledge confusion due to a short slightness or inability to recognize friendly trumpeters from those of the enemy and discretely leave the field with a good chance to avoid the law suit from his feudal superior.
One of the big battle-field problems was to keep the knightly formations from loosing their tight order: unless propped on the sides (by the sticks, varlets, some natural obstacle, etc.) the outermost riders could fell to the right or left (depending on the flank), with the others following. Also, any uneven ground could potentially lead to the same result. This is why most of the scores had been settled by the tournaments: a leveled jousting ground was ideally suited for the knightly warfare. The rare cases when the knights broke this rule [19] tended to end in a total disaster.
Then, there was an issue of a discipline. While the knights could reasonably well retreat, get together and attack again, providing the enemy was totally static [20], doing so with the moving enemy posed the whole number of problems, especially outside the jousting area. And, when the enemy was fleeing, things could turn into a total disaster for a victorious side due to a disorganized pursuit: riding alone left knight totally free to fall (sidewise) from the horse, to damage himself with his own weaponry [21], or even worse, to get his horse damaged. In this area, things deteriorated noticeably comparing to the Viking times [22].
Short of the problems with discipline, formations like those described above were only marginally efficient against each other but had been a seemingly winning formula against unarmored and, preferably, unarmed infantry. Unfortunately, the knights as a class suffered from the numerous phobias and subconscious fears which eventually lead to their extinction.
Historically, they started with a fear _for_ their horses but, due to a low level of a medieval medical science and general scarcity of the shrinks [23], this unattended problem gradually evolved into the fear _of_ the elephants, camels, hyenas, mice and, finally, infantrymen.
3. Medieval Foot
Things were more or less under control as long as the foot soldiers remained unarmed and preferably remained out of sight [24]. Unfortunately, they started appearing on the battlefields, 1st just due to a plain oversight and then being intentionally placed there by exceptionally weird-thinking leaders.
As species, they started with being classified as those who will run away if they have enough brains [25]. However, due to a pure statistics, on few occasions they had been placed in a situation where (a) they could not run away but (b) their opponent was either too weak or too drunk or too scatterbrained to arrange for their proper slaughter and was, as a result, slaughtered himself. Out of these few lucky occasions, the foot soldiers got their reputation and eventually were considered worthy of a more explicit classification and eventually they were subdivided into 2 broad categories (a) those holding the long sticks and (b) those who would throw sticks at you. Both categories proved to be equally repulsive from the knightly point of view.
Unfortunately, Verbruggen’s book more or less ends up on this sad stage and, without an alternative source of wisdom, one has to assume that there is nothing else to say about the Medieval warfare……
_____________________________________________________ Notes:
[1] Frankish naming rules always had been a little bit confusing for outsiders. [2] Including throwing stones, axes, small-sized animals (dead and alive), and simply throwing up. [3] By definition, this is the worst thing you can do to anyone. [4] Not only could they ride out of the book-throwing range but they also refused to pay attention to any book not written on Arabic. [5] As far as the Franks had been concerned, high-quality booze was a cornerstone of any successful warfare. [6] Traditionally, they had been only riding chariots carried by the cows so cavalry experience simply was not there. [7] See, “Merovingian Military Organization, 481 – 751” [8] One that he seemingly favors is close to: “fell upon the enemies like a crumbling brick shithouse”, which clearly indicates presence of a powerful cavalry on the Frankish side. [9] Cost of the said equipment in the contemporary currency. [10] If 3 small holders are supposed to raise 1 soldier and you have, say, 25 of them in one village and 19 in another, you’ll inevitably end up with 8 and 1/3 and 6 and 1/3. And even you somehow manage to combine them (fat chance, with them being from the different villages), you will still end up 1/3 short of a full soldier. Add to this, requests for the troops annual rotation and you end up with a total mess in the terms of unattached bodily parts. [11] Perhaps related to receiving some tangible gratitude. [12] Of course the famous telegram, “Drinking for the 3rd week Your Majesty’s health” belongs to a different period and geography but the idea is the same: you can’t expect to be punished for _this_. [13] Sight of an army taking an after lunch nap with an opponent in a plain view should make the said opponent understandingly suspicious about this being a clever ambush or something even worse. As a result, many of the Frankish opponents, like Bavarians or Langobards, had been routinely capitulating or at least fleeing at the sound of the Frankish snoring. [14] This specific problem was successfully addressed later by introduction of full plate armor and the visors with the very small holes. [15] Density of these formations had been measured by the size of the object that could fall throw. With no solid theory of a warfare being in circulation, these measurements had been done by throwing object of ever-decreasing size on the top of the knightly formations. Usually, it was started from something reasonably big (for example, a cow or a varlet), then going down to a sheep, a Smart car, watermelon, apple, ipod, and all the way down to a facial tissue. After each experiment, the knights were moved closer and closer together until necessary degree of cohesion had been achieved. [16] Before they had been burned. [17] In the case (a) taking into an account a practical difficulty of figuring out a religious affiliations of the people involved, it was OK to kill everybody in sight; in the case (b) upon return the knight was not allowed to tell the details unless ordered by a marshal and in case (c) he should contribute at least half of a property into the Order’s treasury. [18] Quite obviously, sight of the herd of sheep being moved to the trumpeter’s tent by somebody wearing enemy’s uniform would make commander of an army reasonably suspicious and tempted to play the same trick on an opponent. However, with an increasing coinage circulation during the Renaissance and, especially, after the anonymous bank accounts had been introduced by the Florentines and later by the Swiss, situation changed dramatically. [19] Described in some details in Verbruggen’s book on a medieval warfare. [20] Ditto [21] In the close-packed order, the only thing he could do was to keep his lance horizontally. When left to his own devices, he could easily damage himself with one of the sharp thingies he was supposed to ‘wield’. [22] As was correctly noticed not long ago, there was not a single recorded case of the Viking fleet rowing wildly in a disorderly pursuit of a fleeing enemy after sunset and in the middle of an unfamiliar forest. [23] No, there is no _direct_ proof that state of the Medieval Europe had a nationalized healthcare. [24] Making themselves useful by providing women and booze to their social superiors. [25] The most publicized occasion when they did not, happened in 1066 in England.
erilar - 29 Jun 2009 22:56 GMT In article <3ab2fa76-f47d-4f8e-a18f-2c09497aec9b@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> 1.Merovingian warfare raucous applause with much foot-stamping and whistling!!
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John Kane - 29 Jun 2009 23:17 GMT On Jun 29, 3:51 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote:
An excellent summary of our current knowledge of this important area. It breaks new ground in our understanding of the complexities of medieval warfare.
Perhaps it should be submitted to History Today or the Journal of Irreproducible Results ?
I am glad I did not have a cup of tea handy when reading it.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
am05@hotmail.com - 30 Jun 2009 02:55 GMT > On Jun 29, 3:51 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > > An excellent summary of our current knowledge of this important area. > It breaks new ground in our understanding of the complexities of > medieval warfare. Taking into an account that the post is heavily influenced by the books of B & V, all (or at least most of) credit goes to them.
> Perhaps it should be submitted to History Today or the Journal of > Irreproducible Results ? Unfortunately, I don't have proper connections. :-)
> I am glad I did not have a cup of tea handy when reading it. Well, if you are interested in the subject, here is a little bit more on the subject (after posting I recognized that some of the deepest V's observations had been left out).
Foot Soldiers and the Knights
Of course, after the foot soldiers made their (totally unnecessary) appearance on a battlefield, the noble part of society did not remain idle. After a brief consultation with Charles Darwin, the knights started a dedicated evolution [1]. Just as evolution of the species, this one involved both appearance and behavioral patterns. Within historically-negligible period, the mid-sized mail-wearing knightly species had been replaced by more robust individuals featuring full iron plate and using much longer lances [2]. The same goes for the behavior. If the earlier knightly species were not quite able to do much more than to ride straight forward [3] and obey some of the commands listed in the previous chapter, starting from the 2nd half of the XIV century, we can observe a much more cunning behavior when they could not avoid meeting the infantrymen.
One of the models of behavior was to pretend that _they_ are infantrymen, infiltrate infantry ranks and then, depending on which ranks they did infiltrate, either encourage their own infantrymen to advance [4] or, if by mistake they infiltrated the wrong formation, try to create panic by making loud unhappy noises. The English had been quite successful with this model until (a) French cheated them out of winning the 100YW (see below) and (b) deployment of this tactics by _both_ sides during the Wars of the Roses resulted in a mass confusion (not only both sides had been using the same tactics but they often had similar flags and their trumpeters were playing the same tunes, making proper rallying totally impossible) and almost total self-extermination.
Another, even more complicated stratagem was to postpone a battle until the sunny very hot weather and then did not appear on a battlefield, leaving the opposing burghers to stay on the sun, sweating in their heavy equipment [5] without any chance to get drunk, while their knightly opponents are picnicking not too far away. With a properly selected terrain, this was almost sure scenario for a victory because the burghers would have only two options: (a) to retire to their camp without a fight [6] or (b) to get themselves totally exhausted running [7] to the picnic area just to find that all food and drink are already consumed and the knights safely rode to another position or, even worse, sneaked behind their backs upon a designated battlefield area and declared themselves winners [8]. Of course, the competent commanders and a well-developed organization had been necessary to achieve victory under this scenario: picnic area must be far enough for the enemy to be exhausted by the time of arrival but not too far for him to drop the whole idea altogether. Then, one had to wait until the hot sunny weather. You also had to keep your knights under a tight control so that by the time push comes to shove they would not be totally drunk, etc. If one goes beyond V's book, progress is clearly seen: while at Mons-en-Pevele King (and probably everybody else) had been in a state of a total intoxication, with the resulting "victory by the rule", it was specifically remarked that few decades later at Rosebeke the French had been totally sober, which resulted in a total defeat of the burghers.
Similar progress can be traced during the 100YW. Of course, it took French a while to find formula of a victory but finally they figured out that having the firearms gives you an air of a technological superiority comparing to the people armed with the wooden sticks. It was found (after decades of experiments) that a mere presence of the firearms on a French side was creating a tremendous inferiority complex on the English side. And the most common English reaction in such a situation was one of the bull at the sight of a red rug [9]. The 1st experiment involved 2 field cannons and the results exceeded all expectations: the English totally lost self-control and had been defeated. The next experiment involved numerous firearms, resulted in a massive insanity on an opposing side and won the war.
An unique and a little bit peculiar style of warfare had been developed by Charles the Bold with a purpose to fight the Swiss. Unfortunately, it never was properly documented so we have just the general outlines. More or less, it boils down to the following: place your troops in a position where the enemy can attack you with a maximum advantage, preferably without the sentries to allow him to achieve a complete surprise. After this, try to imitate a headless chicken and let as many of you troops as possible to be killed. Preferably, including yourself. Perhaps, given enough time and resources, Charles would be able to evolve his system into something more successful but, unfortunately, he run out of both.
________________________________________ [1] A creationist branch of a knighthood proved to be unable to evolve and very soon had been exterminated by the sticks-wielding burghers, yeomen and other low life forms. [2] Verbruggen proved quite convincingly that the side having longer sticks is doomed to win, unless other side is throwing sticks (which can be qualified as even longer sticks). Ensuing competition between knights and pikemen and between various species of the pikemen (this, unfortunately happened after the Middle Ages by V came to their logical conclusion so we have to rely upon The Evil Obsolete Historian and surviving artifacts) resulting in a gradual length extension of both infantry and cavalry lances which would go on until competitors eventually run out of suitable trees. Fortunately (for the trees), by this time all of them had been replaced by the troops with the firearms. While being, by most accounts, almost totally useless in the terms of range, aim and other important parameters, the firearms could make loud "Boom!" and produce nice smoke clouds so, eventually, they won the day. [3] In the "serried ranks" and formations so dense that even CD could not fell through. [4] Preferably from the rear ranks. [5] All these chain mails, helmets, goddendags, morgensterns, long spears, shields, battleaxes, maces, etc. [6] Which, by the rules of the time would make them losers. [7] In a very hot weather with all the things listed in [5]. [8] See V's description of the battle at Mons-en-Pevele. It clearly shows the potential benefits and dangers of this specific stratagem: by the time when irritated burghers reached French picnic area King Phillip the Fair was in a such condition that he simply could not climb on his horse, even after it was killed. "He was sitting on the ground, and his first attempt to re-mount failed." Yeah, sure. He was in such a condition that "At one moment he lost his weapon, but a butcher gave him a gigantic battle-axe, with which the king felled many of the enemy". One may keep wondering what would butcher be doing there if this was _not_ a drinking and feasting party. Fortunately for the King, a class solidarity proved to be stronger than a personal animosity: at the most critical moment when, with the help of his faithful knights he was finally placed upon a horse, a Flemish knight kicked the stupid beast (I mean horse) with his goedendag so the animal bolted and "thus brought the king to safety to a group of nobles who had been watching anxiously the result of this encounter." Of course, the said nobles were smart enough not to interfere in all this mess (drunken monarch wildly swinging a battle-axe, idiot kicking horse with a sharp instrument, etc.). Eventually, "the Brugeois triumphantly pushed through the French camp ... found wine and food in the royal tent and elsewhere" and later returned to Lille "leaving the battlefield in the hands of the king who rightly proclaimed himself the victor." [9] Which probably indicate that the French were well ahead of Pavlov in their study of reflexes.
John Kane - 30 Jun 2009 19:38 GMT On Jun 29, 9:55 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote:
Thank you. I have added this masterpiece to the rest of the composition and am now prepared for my final oral examination for my Ph.D in history.
Jack Linthicum - 30 Jun 2009 19:42 GMT > On Jun 29, 9:55 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Thank you. I have added this masterpiece to the rest of the > composition and am now prepared for my final oral examination for my > Ph.D in history. Do you get to name the examining committee or does the department do that?
erilar - 01 Jul 2009 00:45 GMT In article <a8da8b96-c17c-4e5d-a64f-42b56f1f6010@q37g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > On Jun 29, 9:55 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Do you get to name the examining committee or does the department do > that? Perhaps we could both be on it?
 Signature Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov
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am05@hotmail.com - 01 Jul 2009 02:26 GMT > In article > <a8da8b96-c17c-4e5d-a64f-42b56f1f6...@q37g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Perhaps we could both be on it? Surely, I should be on it....
erilar - 01 Jul 2009 15:46 GMT In article <59c9894a-fbba-495a-87f2-739e547d41ad@l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > In article > > <a8da8b96-c17c-4e5d-a64f-42b56f1f6...@q37g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > > Surely, I should be on it.... Unquestionably! For my English MA, all we discussed was my paper, and the prof I wrote it for was the only one on the panel who understood it 8-)
This led me to expect the exam for the Germanic Philology MA would have something to do with the three papers I wrote, but they weren't even touched on. Ouch!
 Signature Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar)
You can't reason with someone whose first line of argument is that reason doesn't count. --Isaac Asimov
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Jack Linthicum - 01 Jul 2009 19:35 GMT > In article > <59c9894a-fbba-495a-87f2-739e547d4...@l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Erilar's Cave Annex:http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo You have experienced the root of my question. I was able to name two of the three who examined my Master's attempt at the University of California. First round ended up with many blue sky sweeps through history and a decision that I was not conversant enough with details. Second, six months later, examined the unnamed parts of nits and small pieces of history. I was obviously not endowed with the scope of a true historian and if I was able to find a teaching position somewhere it would be a miracle. Since I had already been forced to join the Navy by a draft board selection I never got to find out if I would been any good.
am05@hotmail.com - 01 Jul 2009 20:08 GMT > > In article > > <59c9894a-fbba-495a-87f2-739e547d4...@l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Navy by a draft board selection I never got to find out if I would > been any good. I suspect that you did not get the "basics" right: it does not matter _what_ you are saying and how much do you know about the subject as long as you can use the proper lingo. It is especially useful if you can pick up at least some lingo from one of those who are doing examination.
When it came to a military history exam (a part of a compulsory military education in the colleges of the Country Which Is No More) I did not know too much about the 1st question in my ticket and knew practically nothing about the 2nd one. However, I was the only one in our group who could fluently use the right buzzwords (echelon, deep defense and some other jewels of the military slang) and both colonels involved had been totally smitten (one of them even flattered himself with an idea that I learned all this stuff from his lectures). For the next couple years my ...er.... not-very-impressive success in studying radiolocation was mostly overlooked by the said colonel.
:-) Jack Linthicum - 03 Jul 2009 14:55 GMT On Jul 1, 3:08 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > In article > > > <59c9894a-fbba-495a-87f2-739e547d4...@l34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > :-) I was trying to get a Master's with the field of Middle East history at a major major university that had no Middle East history courses, only political science. I couldn't bring the Political Science guy, George Lenczowski, because it was a history exam.
None of the three, Diplomatic, Russia and Germany, wanted to talk about the ME, because, like your buzz words, I would have the vocabulary down and they didn't want me to have it.
John Kane - 04 Jul 2009 16:03 GMT On Jun 30, 9:26 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > In article > > <a8da8b96-c17c-4e5d-a64f-42b56f1f6...@q37g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Surely, I should be on it Certainly not! Plagarism is so embarrassing when the author is on the committee.
John Kane Kingston ON Canada
am05@hotmail.com - 05 Jul 2009 17:41 GMT > On Jun 30, 9:26 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Certainly not! Plagarism is so embarrassing when the author is on the > committee. As long as you preface them with: "As was proven beyond any reasonable doubt by ....." or "As <whoever> teaches us...." it should be quite all right. :-)
am05@hotmail.com - 30 Jun 2009 20:00 GMT > On Jun 29, 9:55 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Thank you. I have added this masterpiece to the rest of the > composition and am now prepared for my final oral examination for my > Ph.D in history. Why don't you wait until I'm done with the whole subject so that you will be able to overwhelm the examination board with the width, lenght and depth of your knowledge? :-)
[the next chapter was just published as a separate thread]
John Kane - 04 Jul 2009 16:07 GMT On Jun 30, 3:00 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jun 29, 9:55 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > [the next chapter was just published as a separate thread] Damn it. I hate discovering new sources so late in the dissertation process. Perhaps I'll ignore it until my book ?
John Kane Kingston ON Canada
am05@hotmail.com - 06 Jul 2009 00:49 GMT > On Jun 30, 3:00 pm, a...@hotmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Damn it. I hate discovering new sources so late in the dissertation > process. Perhaps I'll ignore it until my book ? If you are not afraid that your book will be too innovative.... :-)
Tron - 01 Jul 2009 10:17 GMT Hi,
.....
Signals by the standards and trumpets also played an important role in the knightly warfare. To start with, a knight was supposed to fight only as long as (a) he can see a standard of his superior and (b) can hear his side’s trumpets.
- If there were more than three, did that sound diabolical?
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am05@hotmail.com - 01 Jul 2009 13:30 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > - If there were more than three, did that sound diabolical? As much as I could figure out from reading V's book, it was OK to join any standard (no matter which side) as long as combatant could (within reasonable limits) consider its general appearence pleasing enough. Of course, this was allowed only after the standard of his own band could not be seen. With enough standards around, statistically, both sides would get a fair treatment.
Regarding the trumpets, author is much less clear. It is more or less clear that before marching anywhere the members of each and every medieval army had to attend a number of the compulsory music lessons. But it is much less clear if the signals of _different_ armies had been prearranged to avoid confusion. What if _both_ sides used the same tune (for example, "Yellow submarine") for the different purposes?
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