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Re: Northern vs. Southern Generals?
| ray o'hara | 02 Oct 2006 22:23 |
> > > I observe that the North had a string of incompetent generals until > > > Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan took command. And I observe that the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > making such statements. If the generals were roughly equal, then the > union should have won quickly. one should also consider the fact that the south had great defensive terrain. large well equipped armies and they didn't need masses of troops to defend their supply lines. the unions railroads did them no good in the south, the south had all the weapons they could uses and never suffered on that point. the rule of thumb is that a three to one advantage is needed to guarantee victory. also the confederacy was a huge area. when all that is considered the union actually won fairly quickly.
> They did not, ergo their generalship was probably deficiant. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > front. In the war between the states the space ratio was much much > larger. the primative road net and railroads in the south constricted movement, armies could not just swarm about anywhere. they had to follow routes determined by roads which followed natural features. mountain ranges, trackless forrests and unfordable but also unnavigable rivers made the souths task of defence easier. choke points like chattanooga which was where you had to go through as it was the only place to cross the tennessee and also pass through mts. it is still so today. you view of the strategic and tactical realities is as simple as your view of the constitution.
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| Alfred Montestruc | 02 Oct 2006 13:51 |
> > I observe that the North had a string of incompetent generals until > > Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan took command. And I observe that the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > genious hurt the south whereas lincoln knew he was nonapoleon and he was > willing to listen to council. One should consider the ratio of numbers of population and income in money and other factors, also the and superior supply chain in terms of rail transport, and the fact that the union had a large navy when making such statements. If the generals were roughly equal, then the union should have won quickly.
They did not, ergo their generalship was probably deficiant.
Note that the troops to space ratio was not so dense as to make it possible to defend all lines of approch by either side so the war was very much one of manuver and so generalship was more not less important. That is as opposed to conflicts like WWI where the troop to space ratio were such that both side had several men per linear yard of front. In the war between the states the space ratio was much much larger.
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| ray o'hara | 01 Oct 2006 19:50 |
> I observe that the North had a string of incompetent generals until > Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan took command. And I observe that the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Your response please. > Thanks, Ralph. the south had one competant general. lee. in the western theater the south was losing from the beginning. A.S.Johnson, bragg, pillow, and many others,{a very long list} were hopeless. even jackson and longstreet are over-rated.
that the south had better generals is a myth that does not stand up to close scrutiny.
and i believe you meat president davis , not jackson, and his self imagined genious hurt the south whereas lincoln knew he was nonapoleon and he was willing to listen to council.
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| RalphReynolds@eSedona.net | 01 Oct 2006 12:00 |
I observe that the North had a string of incompetent generals until Grant, Sherman, and Sheridan took command. And I observe that the South had a string of competent and brilliant generals - except for Bragg and Ewell (after Ewell lost his leg).
What was the cause of this? Chance? Or the fact that President Jackson was a military man, and President Lincoln was not?
Your response please. Thanks, Ralph.
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